Fairly trivial but still - MNHQ thread deletion messages

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I've noticed that these have started to be extremely brief and uninformative. I'm sure you have loads more important stuff to do but actually it was quite nice to have a tiny bit more info on why you decided to take an entire thread down.
Previously banned poster = fine, understandable, no further detail required
Breaking talk guidelines though - what? which ones? why?
It just seems to have become very clinical now, rather than informative.

But not really a big thing.

Were they ever anything but brief? I am really annoyed about threads getting shut down, happens on a thread I'm on every week without fail. Its bloody annoying and with the exception of a couple I rarely see the justification.

The messages used to be a bit more chatty and informative, yes - they've got extremely succinct now!

Yes there us to be some funny deletion messages.

Also MNHQ use to chat a lot more on threads, they all showed their personalities, and have laugh.

Now it doesn't seem to matter what their name is as they all just write as if of a script, and only appear when required.

There have been a few: "We're not sure about the OP, so we're shutting this entire thread down while we have a look"

This one makes me irate: Firstly you are shutting an entire thread down because you suspect the OP may just be being goady troll. But you don't actually know they are.

Well sometimes somebody posts something sensitive, or is in what seems a bizarre situation that seems out of the ordinary, but are looking for help. I wonder what it feels like to get your thread shut down just because a few people think you aren't being genuine. Crap I imagine.

In the past we've had poems, raps, witty little explanations, Sighs and piss taking, for deletion messages.

The funny deletion messages were suspended as a matter of deliberate policy because people kept starting threads (some of them very unpleasant) which were extremely popular (filled up with placemarking for the deletion message).

Really not the sorts of threads you want, if you are serious about tackling a trolling problem.

Having mods whomdid the job long term, and who chatted, is something I miss. But we now know MNHQ see that role as suitable for interns - and there has been a fair amount of chuntering about the changes which that produced being unwelcome.

yeah I can understand that Stella still ots a shame.

I still miss MNHQ just popping on to threads to join in, or chatting whilst telling posters to rein it in.

Hi All,
We do understand your frustration with thread deletions.
Its a really tricky line to follow.

As moderators, we all love writing a more interesting deletion message.

But often there is a lot of stuff coming in. When you see a 'Broke TGs' one it will usually be related to Spam posts and there will be a lot of threads that are going at once.

When we take a thread down to look at the OP, we will have received a significant number of reports, and there will usually be something else that makes us want to dig a bit deeper.
However, I do see your point, it is good to see there are real people out there. I will try and write more interesting deletion messages.

we will have received a significant number of reports

I don't think that's a good enough reason to shut a thread down. There are just some topics that are going to be controversial and get a lot of reports.

Having the report thread button so easily accessible increases the chance of it being either misused (you have a political agenda and want to stifle debate) or overused trivially. You have a 'hide thread' function, but I have never once seen a MN message saying "we've had a lot of reports about this thread, we realise the subject matter is sensitive, but encourage those of you affected to use the hide thread facility" No, you'd rather just shut the thread down.

I think reporting individual posts should remain easy to do. But reporting threads should be harder. More focus needs to be on people taking personal responsibility and using the hide thread facility.

Also OP 's should realise that what they post may be identifying and shared by other media companies aka DM before they post so they cannot get it shut down on a whimsy once they decide they don't like the responses they're getting.

Thanks JenMN, I do appreciate that :)

I want fun ones again, they were often the funniest bit of an obvious troll thread.

@WishTheGroundWouldSwallowMeUp

I still miss MNHQ just popping on to threads to join in, or chatting whilst telling posters to rein it in.

Can you rein it in, @WishTheGroundWouldSwallowMeUp?

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WishTheGroundWouldSwallowMeUp

Olivia Mumsnet deletion messages used to be the funny ones, not seen her on the boards as much over the last few months.

I know that's why is nice to see her just appear

So today, I'm on 2 and both are deleted. 2 in a day.

So annoying!

I'm very unhappy about over-zealous-deleting of threads.

I posted on the one the other day ' has anything bad ever happened to you.'

Now deleted.

MNHQ : "thread and we agree it isn't going to make people feel good about their lives so we've deleted it. "

WTF?

Yes. What I posted was: I had a bad diabetic hypo is Russia and was locked up, taped to the bed, thus with bed sores, in a mental hospital, until my mum and the consulate got me flown home, unconscious.

I was accused of munchausens by the school, who disputed his ASD diagnosis, and lost my kids.

These 2 facts, whilst uncomfortable, make me who I am. Why does everything have to be jolly and up-beat, to make people feel better?

Discussing sad/bad/uncomfortable things is ALSO important.

Wow, Oblomov - both those things are terrible! But I totally agree with you - our bad experiences shape our lives as much, if not more, than the good ones and there's nothing inherently wrong in sharing that! Can't understand that deletion decision at all. Weird.

Also, it's terribly dismissive of people's bad events! Like "Oh your sad lives are making us feel bad, we don't want to see/read about them, so we're going to delete it and go back to our fluffy la-la land where everything is rainbow coloured and sparkly!"