Y'know I had a really good look at those Lunchable things advertised incessantly on MN and guess what????

[moondog]

They look about a million times worse than I could have ever imagined in my wildest dreams.
I'm afraid I've changed my mind.You people that run the show here should be ashamed of yourselves.

They are absolute SHIT I tell you.

[moondog]

Exactly Moomin.
Nowt wrong with making a choice to eat crap as long as you know its crap.But marketing crap as a nutritionally sound choice is bloody irresponsible and it does look as if it is endorsed by MN which is very bloody weird indeed,considering their mantra of providing support.

It is very misleading.

[Fillyjonk]

hmm

it is very nice to have a parenting site and chat on it and all but

not at the expense of this crap being shoved at kids

would rather have membership fees than that, tbh

[Nbg]

I have been watching that River Cottage thing on More4 where they send a group of "non cooks" to River Cottage.

The last one I watched was where they sent a group who lived off ready meals and take aways. Later in the programme HFW was explaining where the meat came from in these "meals".
Basically its waste product that is blasted off a carcus with one of those power washer things and collected off the floor, then pressed together.

I can take a good guess that this is whats in the lunchables "meat".

Also when products say 100% meat, its not all meat. Going on gvt guidelines it only has to be something like 30/40% and the rest can be any other part of the animal.

[Moomin]

Yes it's making me very all this. I've sent a copy of my post to MN towers and asked if they could reconsider running the ads, or at least make them take off the claims that they are 'healthy' and 'full of good stuff', which is a blatent lie.

[Boco]

But the psuedomeat is so pretty and luminous pink! And the processed cheese keeps you buzzing all through the day!


Decided out on another thread recently that the cheese strings could well be formed totally naturally out of the solidified sweat from chaffing cleavages (WB suggested something even more disgusting than cleavages, but i will not repeat it). So, not all bad eh!

[moondog]

(Whi is WB?)

[Boco]

It was WelshBoris miss, not me, i never said it, she said dairylea was made under foreskins miss.

[snottyshoulders]

Nbg...'Blasting off waste products and collecting off floor'....... thats sooooo disgusting, Jesus do people actually give that stuff to their kids and not get done for child cruelty??

[moondog]

Of course

(She can be relied on to lower lofty tone.)

[moondog]

It is what is known in the trade as 'mechanically recovered meat'I believe.

They also spin carcasses of tortured animals really fast in a drum and the g force (?) causes any residual meat to splat against the sides of the drum from whence it is scraped off and formed into shit products.

[OrmIrian]

But it's not just the food itself. It's all the packaging that goes round it that irritates me. Not neccessary.

[moondog]

Yes Orm.
The majority of kids parties my lot have been to recently have had food served up in completely unnecessary boxes,'because the kids like it,it reminds them of Macdonalds.'

[edam]

MRM not nice but I do get tired of the insistence that anyone who feeds their offspring the odd chicken nugget is a child abuser.

[Nbg]

Thats it Moondog "mechanically recovered meat".

Have heard about the drum thing before too.

[Twiglett]

I think its the ASA you should complain to not MNHQ

[Nbg]

I feel sorry for MN.
They cant win with their advertising

[Boco]

If dairylea are going to pay lots of money to advertise, it might as well be on a site where the discussion will turn to mechanically recovered meat and how revolting their products are - i don't think too many people on mn are going to suddenly develop a taste for their procuct, precisely because of the nature of this site, so i don't mind really. I'd complain if it was on cbeebies site or something aimed at children.

[kiskidee]

but it comes in such lovely packaging moony!

[SoupDragon]

How much salt and saturated fat is in a home made ham and cheese sandwich though?

[SoupDragon]

The ham I have (and it's Tesco's finest hand carved by angels ham) has 1g of salt per slice.

[wheresthehamster]

The ad is clever in a way because Jane Griffin actually says "Lunchables....along with fruit/veg and a drink make a balanced lunch and a convenient alternative to a sandwich every now and again" whereas the headline implies it's a suitable alternative full stop.

The thought of them makes me shudder.

[Nbg]

Theres a massive difference in fresh cut off the joint ham and mechanically made ham.

Mechanically made ham has salt put in it.
The salt in fresh meat is natural salt.

[Moomin]

I feel for MN too, but Justine did say in a thread about this subject last week that they had thought long and hard about allowing it and were still open to opinions and comments. So I've made my opinions known... I'm not saying that it's child abuse to give kids junk and all that caper, and if you choose to let your kids have something like this every now and then (or even every day for that matter) then that's up to you but I do think it's irresponsible to allow consumers (or "Mums!" as the TV advert for this product addresses us) to think this stuff is in any way healthy. If you know it's shit and you still want to give it to your kids, than that's your look-out and your choice. But many people won't realise how shit it actually is and will have been tricked by the fairly sophisicated advertising ploys into thinking it's actually ok.

I don't consider myself stupid; in fact I'll be brave and say I know I'm not stupid, but I can be naive and I have been ignorant to things like this in the past. When I first had dd1 I genuinely remember walking past all the nuggets and giblets in the supermarket and thinking "oo I'll be having to buy all that soon for dd" even though I wouldn't have dreamt of buying stuiff like that for myself!!! How mad's that??!! Soon after I discovered mumsnet and then I discovered there was a perfectly sane way of feeding your children with ... the food you eat yourself, cooked from scratch (as I'd always done) and balanced with the occasional treat. I'm embarrassed to think how naive I was back then. But if I'd seen a diarylea ad on MN at that time I really wouldn't have thought there was anything wrong with them to give my kids on a regular basis.

[SoupDragon]

Nbg, how many people buy ham that's not that sliced sandwich ham? And anyway, you're talking rubbish because the ingredients on my Tescos Finest Carved By Angels ham begins "British Pork, Salt..."