Anthony Joshua

[misspetite]

Last week, my work colleague and I were fooling around and decided to post a picture of the gorgeous Anthony Joshua with his cute son (on holiday in Dubai).
To our horror, it has suddenly been deleted
Noticed one poster questioned WHY the picture was on the thread?
Mumsnet please explain to us
what we did wrong?!!!!!!!!

Copyright? Unless you actually own the image?

Maybe because it was a picture of someone's child? 'Horror' seems a bit OTT.

On here? Showing the childs face is a no-no maybe?

What was the thread about?

Was it a photo released for publication (with permission to use the child's image), or an invasion-of-privacy paparazzi shot?

It's just one of those pictures you copy from the internet, obviously no copyright, with HIS child on holiday- (next to his girlfriend).
Given that, MNers, sometimes post pictures of our 'celebrity crashes'- I found this particular situation absurd.

“Obviously no copyright”? The photographer has copyright, so you effectively stole it. That’s probably why.

Do email into HQ:

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It breaches the terms of copyright and a child's right to privacy (Article 8? of the ECHR?) Forgive me, the correct clauses evade me.

However, you are wrong.

Unless you have the permission of the individual who commissioned the photograph ie Anthony Joshua or an individual in the photograph itself eg the girlfriend then you are in breach of copyright as you do not have the relevant permissions to post it.

In a similar instance, just because the child's father is famous does not negate his right to have his privacy breached. His father could post the photograph as he is his father, you have neither parental responsibility nor permission, therefore you cannot post a picture of a child who is not your own.

It was taken down simply due to the fact it was an unlawful posting of a picture to which you do not have rights. Google or whichever forum you took it from will, however.

Hello!

From what we can see (and this is just the quick answer, whether it's the right thread or not is another matter...) We can see your picture!

Can you report your post to us using the report button, with a URL link of where the correct image is? And also let us know what device and browser you're using?

AgentProvocateur.

I certainly DID not steal it! You really do live up to your user name

The thread and picture are still there www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3129174-You-did-a-good-job-God

Miss I'm very sorry but you did. Your statement that it 'obviously' had no copyright. Is incorrect but yo be fair to you a common belief. All photos have a copywrite, including your own. Seriously I mean that, you have copywriter on your photos. That's why when the fail/other tabloids use celebrity Instagram posts to illustrate stories you'll see for instance in this case C Anthony Joshua/Instagram (facebook/twitter) it's Anthony Joshua/press photographers photo. It is not yours you have not been given permission to use it. You stole it. Unless you asked the person who took it be Anthony Joshua or a member of his family, permission to post it you broke copywrite.

Hay I've got a few pictures of my sort of celeb totally not celebrity crush on my phone, I'm fully aware I'm 'stealing' them though, my friends even go oh naught will nab that one! So every one does it your right, doesn't mean that what you've said is true.

People can get in to a lot, and I mean a lot of trouble for posting pictures that they don't have permission for, a charity one of my colleagues used to work for got charged £5,000 for posting one of those pictures you just down load of the internet, by which I'm guessing you mean from Google images. I know of a case where a celebrity said very clearly that some press photos for an upcoming production were for his official website only, and a 'fan' decided to screen cap them and post them on another fans forum, the production company started legal proceedings against both the celebrity and the fan who owned the forum, not even the person that had posted them.

At work I have to be very very careful about what pictures I can use. my job relies on pictorial images I produce information for people with learning disabilities. I have to go to search tools and labelled for reuse.

I'm not saying this to get at you, many people are massively unaware of the consequences of posting photos they just down load from the internet. But it doesn't give you the right to get angry.

And just to prove your it obviously didn't have any copywrite wrong.

It very obviously did bottom left corner it's got Cmcm it's MCM copywrite,

Any way it has my been deleted so this thread is pointless

But it hasn't been deleted! I linked to it above.

To our horror, it has suddenly been deleted

Hilarious over reaction, particularly as your thread has not even been deleted

Sorry insomniac my post auto corrected itself it has my been deleted I didn't notice.

It should say "it hasn't been deleted so this thread is pointless"

I know it hasn't been deleted I followed your link to see the copy write,

Sorry if you thought i was saying it had been deleted, I was agreeing that it hasn't

OK- what's my penalty?

The hysteria is hilarious, to be honest.

Not hysteria - the LAW,

are you generally so flippant about the law?!

@noughtothreesadonions it's a bit rich of you to say she's being flippant about the law when you've admitted you yourself breach copyright law by stealing photos from the internet.

While it's true that copyright is an automatic right people have over their own photographs, that right would almost never be asserted in a situation like this, where the person who posted the photo isn't profiting from it or using it for any kind of promotion. MNHQ have confirmed that the photo is still up. It therefore wasn't removed because it breaches copyright. Copyright is breached all the time in respect of celeb photographs but since photographers have usually been paid for images of celebs before they are made public, it is incredibly rare for it to be enforced.

You're behaving as though the OP is a criminal - I've never seen such a storm in a teacup!

Ere no it isn't because I'm not the one going it's it's just one of those downloaded from the internet so obviously no copywrite, if i posted something and thought it had been removed and some one went copywrite beech I'd go yes possibly mia culpa! I wouldn't be upset if someone said I was stealing I'd go yep sorry MN for getting you in to trouble, hope you removing it has dealt with any conquences.

I wouldn't flippantly write "what's my fine thenl" and ")the hysteria is hilarious"

Especially when id rather hysterically started a thread.abouf a post being deleted when it hasn't actually been deleted at all

Oh my god. Copyright has nothing to do with OPs original concern. Why should OP apologise for getting MN in trouble when that hasn't happened?

You yourself admit you use images from the internet but then accuse OP of being flippant with the law for doing the same thing. That really is a bit hypocritical.

I agree that the OP was mistaken about whether the image was copyrighted, but I also think you're totally overreacting and virtue-signalling by trying to suggest that she's casual about the law just because she used a copyrighted image - something that millions of people (including you!) do all the time with no consequences.

(Also just for info it's copyright, not copywrite)

Thank you @LyraPotter Jesus Christ!

Can I just point out the copyright belongs to the photographer, not the subject of the photo. None of us own our own image and you do not need the subject's permission to make the photo public. It is not against the law to make a photo of a child public. If that was the case then press photography would become impossible.