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We've just heard from the Met that they are dropping their investigation into MN Swatter

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JustineMumsnet · 04/05/2017 20:11

We received this mail from the Met today. Not great news but I thought some might be interested in the outcome.

Hacking enquiry

"I am afraid that we can no longer pursue the hacking investigation of Mumsnet any further, there are no other lines of enquiry that we can follow up on. In order to identify the user of the online moniker of DadSec we have approached Twitter for their assistance however they cannot. The suspect used a number of different methods to hide their true identity from using TOR, proxy websites, compromised details and jurisdictions which are not Law enforcement friendly. All of this added together means that we do not at this stage have any viable leads and therefore will have to close this investigation.

I am more than happy to come across and discuss this in more detail in person. Please let me know a date and time and I can visit your offices to speak further.

I am sorry that in this instance we could not find the others who were responsible. If there is anything else that I can help with please do let me know.

Kind regards..."

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MovingtoParadise · 04/05/2017 20:16

I'm pretty surprised. They seem to be saying that they could catch him ? Is the crime not serious enough to warrant them doing that?

I'm guessing it's not serious enough for them to dedicate more resources to it.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 04/05/2017 20:18

They seem to be saying that they could catch him ?

I don't think they are. They are saying that the person covered their identity in numerous ways and they are unable to trace it.

MovingtoParadise · 04/05/2017 20:21

Well they could compel Twitter with a court order and the other proxies but aren't Confused

Not 'law enforcement friendly' doesn't mean they can't, it means that they won't (for whatever reason).

BillyButtfuck · 04/05/2017 21:20

Thank you for keeping us in the loop

Blagging · 05/05/2017 00:27

I'm sorry to hear that. It's really frustrating. It was such a nasty thing to have done.

David Buchanan the Mumsnet hacker is currently at Bristol University Hmm I wonder if he regrets what he did. I know he wasn't the person responsible for the swotting attack but if he wasn't involved it wouldn't have happened.

KungFuEric · 05/05/2017 00:30

It's not surprising, priority crimes for police to deal with are ones that can be evidenced and solved in a simple manner.

Groovee · 05/05/2017 09:29

I hope whoever did this doesn't do
It to any other website but it does feel like they got away with it.

JaneJeffer · 05/05/2017 10:41

we have approached Twitter for their assistance however they cannot

Their reply is very badly written.

The hacker will be delighted when they see this. It'll probably encourage them to do worse.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/05/2017 10:51

Twitter as form for not helping police investigations.

PhilODox · 05/05/2017 11:13

I guess it's just not a priority for them, is it?

TheNaze73 · 05/05/2017 11:15

Is there a link at all to the case?

JustineMumsnet · 05/05/2017 11:44

This explains what happens from our POV

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SpecialFlowSnake · 05/05/2017 11:48
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Faithless12 · 05/05/2017 11:50

It's not that it's not a priority, some countries don't have the same laws as ours so when servers are based in that country their laws apply. It's the biggest issue with the internet is the ability to just use servers that are favourable to your cause.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/05/2017 12:19

Yup. What Faithless said

TressiliansStone · 05/05/2017 13:19

Thanks for the update, Justine. Disappointing, but not too surprising.

Shitalopram · 05/05/2017 13:25

"Not law enforcement friendly"

Diddums. Hmm

WannaBe · 05/05/2017 14:09

Not surprised.

childmaintenanceserviceinquiry · 05/05/2017 15:40

It does read a bit as if they don't want to dedicate any more resource to the investigation. I think for me the worst bit was the use of swotting. That waste of public resource and the possible harm that could have been done surely warrants effort. Presumably that is a criminal offence?

OlennasWimple · 05/05/2017 15:52

Thanks for the update

Twitter have very clear policies about the circumstances under which they will release information to law enforcement agencies. Mostly designed to protect its users' personal data, but it's frustrating when it appears to stonewall legitimate requests for information. Considering that they don't allow governments to access information to help thwart terrorist activity, I'm not surprised that Twitter hasn't been more helpful in this case.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 05/05/2017 16:09

That's really disappointing, I'm sorry to read it Justine.

I'm surprised that they aren't going to pursue something that resulted in in two police teams being deployed for no reason.

Hassled · 05/05/2017 17:37

I'm sorry - particularly for Justine and the MNer who were the specific targets. It must have been so distressing - and to find out the bastard has just got away with it is really galling.

DoctorDonnaNoble · 05/05/2017 17:57

They can want to pursue it all they like; without the evidence from Twitter they won't have a case for the CPS. They won't be allowed to charge. Most social networks hide behind the legislation of where their servers are based and refuse to divulge client information as it 'invades privacy' but will happily sell that information to advertisers.

ParadiseCity · 05/05/2017 18:00

Hope MNHQ and the swattees are not too pissed off about this... MN rocks so the swatter may be thinking they've had the last laugh but I wouldn't agree.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 05/05/2017 18:46

Well done Met police for failing to set a precedent.

I'm sure we can look forward to more hacks like this in future seeing as there is apparently nothing more they can do.

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