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Can MNHQ actually do anything about the DM publishing threads?

40 replies

BakeOffBiscuits · 10/11/2016 14:55

The DM have crossed a line.

They have previously pinched published 'fun' threads but today chose to publish one about a woman asking advice about her abusive H.Angry It contained very identifying details concerning certain things he had done. I hope to god he doesn't read the DM because he will know his wife has asked for help.

Can you actually do anything about the DM printing such threads? If not, women will be put off asking for advice, when they desperately need itSad and I think you should put up huge warnings "Please be aware that anything you post may be reproduced in the DM"

OP posts:
BakeOffBiscuits · 10/11/2016 17:59

Sorry I missed a page there and hadn't read some posts. I don't agree that something on MN is more likely to be seen than something in the DM.

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Ifailed · 10/11/2016 18:01

you honestly can't see the difference between posting on a mostly female site, and the same info being on the DM website?
I suspect the demographics of MN and the DM online are very similar.

WannaBe · 10/11/2016 18:01

"you honestly can't see the difference between posting on a mostly female site, and the same info being on the DM website?" no. Because there is no difference. You are incredibly naive if you think otherwise. MN has over a million hits a day. Do you really, honestly believe that it is only visited by women? It really isn't.

If you go back over MN's history there have been countless threads where posters have posted here about their partners and their partners have found, and even posted on the threads in question. This has been happening since I first joined here and I've been a member here for eleven years. Nothing has changed.

And it's not being posted "in a national newspaper" it's being posted on there website. Here today, gone tomorrow, whereas the same thread will still be there in twenty years time unless you post in chat or 30 days.

People really need to get real over this. Oh, and stop reading the daily mail, you're contributing to their revenue.

WannaBe · 10/11/2016 18:04

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VintagePerfumista · 10/11/2016 18:05

Aye, it's odd isn't it, that for a paper which is so vilified, there are clearly (or we wouldn't know, would we?) a heck of a lot of MNers reading it day in day out. Wink

WannaBe · 10/11/2016 18:09

Oh no, apparently they Google mumsnet and the DM pops up. Hmm Grin. Because we're all gullible enough to believe that. Wink.

DonkeyOaty · 10/11/2016 18:11
pinkunicornsarefluffy · 10/11/2016 18:12

It is easy to get sucked into believing that MN is safe, however it can be viewed by anyone.

I do agree with OP though that there is far more chance of people being outed on DM than MN. Most of my friends have never heard of/never used MN, however a lot of them have DM feeds on facebook.

So surely it stands to reason that DM reaches far more people than MN due to the fact that it is a daily newspaper, and MN is a forum that not everyone uses? Therefore there are stories reaching the DM readers that none of them would have ever seen otherwise, because they never use MN.

NerrSnerr · 10/11/2016 18:17

There have been loads of threads asking this. If you writing something on a very public and open website it's the risk you're taking. Of course MN are not going to try and stop them putting anything in the DM as it brings traffic to there site so they make money.

People have to stop thinking of MN as some sort of safe space. If you feel you would be identified if someone read what you're writing and you don't want to be outed then don't do it. Or change some significant details.

WannaBe · 10/11/2016 18:49

pinkunicornsarefluffy How do you know that your friends don't read MN? My RL friends wouldn't know that I do, and I wouldn't know if they do either. What they post on Facebook isn't an indication of what they read otherwise.

And as I said previously, a thread appearing in the DM will only appear there for one day until it is replaced by something else, so you are dependent on someone being A, a regular DM reader, and B, reading on the day it is published and seeing that particular story. I'm a regular BBC news reader, and still I don't see all articles that appear on any given day.

However, if an OP posts a particularly sensitive post looking for help/advice, then it's entirely likely that it will receive hundreds and hundreds of replies, with regular updates from the OP, possibly with follow-up threads linking back to the originals, and could be trending on active for weeks or even months. It would be far more likely that you would come across it even through googling, and not only be able to find the thread in question, but also the back story and be able to continue to follow its progression while the OP is happily oblivious.

So no, I disagree. It is far more likely that someone would be identified from a thread on here than from a one-off posting on a tabloid website.

People have been being recognised here for ever. There are in fact threads asking what people should do if they've recognised someone from RL on MN, and that's before you get to threads which are tracked down and followed by partners, family members, friends that OP's have written about.

This notion that MN Or the DM are putting people's lives at risk is hysterical rubbish. If you're at risk already then find a more secure way to get help. Like women's aid. MN is a good place for advice but it is not a safe haven.

MyWineTime · 10/11/2016 22:31

It is a ridiculous argument to say that the OP is put at risk when it gets posted on the DM but is somehow safe when posting here!
Does it even matter what the difference is in figures between the 2 sites?

Manumission · 10/11/2016 23:07

Pah.

There's an obscure language somewhere in which full stops just happen to be written "the Daily Mail are trashy cunts".

I vote we adopt that. Like writing a telegram.

Do iPhones do keyboard shortcuts?

VintagePerfumista · 11/11/2016 07:23

Oh give over with the reinventing of the wheel and the totes hilaires "let's say the DM are cunts" stuff.

That's been done on MN for years.

It works well, as you can see. Hmm

Manumission · 11/11/2016 12:15

Go on vintage, try it for us, we need to see if every other sentence is viable Grin

ZoeTurtle · 14/11/2016 10:26

-Daily Mail are cunts repeated as a background on ever single thread.

I vote for this one.

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