use of the word 'moron'

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could it be banned? do others find it offensive? I have seen it on 3 threads today already, should I report or just ignore? it has come up before and yet still I feel we have learnt nothing when users still put in in their posts.

I was pointing it out because whenever isms are mentioned
People always put disablism last,
Just something i have noticed.
No biggie

Is utter trilby really genius? Because that is slagging someone (me) off who has a different view to you on one word and is being used in a derogatory way. So actually all you preachy non bullying people on your pedestals have some very questionable arguments on this and yes I am taking offence, as you obviously mean it to be offensive, unlike some peoples light hearted use of the word moron. You're either ok with being derogatory or not. Take your pick..(for obvious reasons won't include the word morons here). ffs it is not derogatory, it is not linked to a disability (like moron) or race its a light hearted 'insult' no one is preaching no insults ever (although that would be nice) we are saying the language that you use can be offensive to some and words like moron shouldn't be thrown around. It's about thought and respect for others do you really not get that?

Well for me, this is the pertinent point:
we do remove them when used as personal attacks or if they are used specifically to cause hurt and upset in the context of the thread
I've hand on heart never heard it used in real life or online to mock someone with disabilities (and I'm sorry to hear of anyone whose experience is otherwise).
I've heard it used as a general insult towards and about people who are not disabled but have done something profoundly stupid. I'm ok with that, I think it's a rude insult but not offensive, but I wouldn't knowingly use it around people I know to be offended by it - just as I avoid saying Jesus in front of religious people and cunt in front of my mum.
Incidentally - what word would you use, colloquially, to refer to someone (not necessarily directly, perhaps when you're relaying a story) who had done something very stupid, which would convey your contempt for them or their actions without causing offence to someone somewhere? Genuinely interested in 'safe' words to use not so interested in hearing about or from mythical figures who would never dream of insulting anyone or speaking badly of anyone, ever
Arsehole etc don't quite fit as I tend to think that describes 'nasty' rather than 'stupid'

Is utter trilby really genius? Because that is slagging someone (me) off who has a different view to you on one word and is being used in a derogatory way.

This is what I wrote...
I might start using hat as an insult. Or maybe types of hat. "You utter trilby" has a nice ring to it.

It was in no way aimed at you. I don't know why you've chosen to take it that way. You weren't seriously saying earlier that you found the word "hat" offensive? I thought you were just using it as an example. I often use inanimate objects as insults. "You banana" is my current fruit of choice. I thought hats work quite nicely as insults.

This thread has taken a really odd turn.

Depending on level of animosity....

Stupid (possibly with added arsehole for someone of Trump like stupidity)
Dense
Doofus
Daft

I don't think I would use a word to generally describe somebody or their behaviour.

I may say to one of the dc , that was a silly thing to do, or that was a bit daft when referring to a particular event.

There is a huge difference between this and labelling someone with a derogatory term, used to offend through bullying.
I'd never call somebody stupid, thick, because they probably aren't.
If they are less intelligent there are better words to use like their specific
diagnosis.
My dc will often state that it's the ADHD to blame, or having a dyslexic moment. (usually English Comp, or spelling) I always correct when they say stupid or idiot. Waiting for diagnosis but pretty sure of at least those two.

As for the term Moron The teachers were probably right and it was the right word to use in the case of my very low IQ, they also had no terms for ADHD, dyslexia and my other learning disabilities. My problem of course isn't with the terminology it's all they had at the time. It is the way the term and others were used that society has to know that they are unacceptable to many people of this time, and the lack of compassion can lead to a life time feeling of inadequacy.

Gilly - yes, describe a behaviour not label a person.

I can't help feeling that if some of your former teachers could read that post, see how well you can articulate things, how you've remained patient and polite, they'd now be using some entirely different descriptions for you (and questioning the validity of whatever IQ test they were using then).

I agree about labelling the behaviour not the person especially if it's my kids - if one of them calls themselves stupid, I always correct it... It's more the "some idiot cut me up on the motorway" or "some moron who thought it would be OK to drink and drive" kind of usage that I do. Sorry, two driving related examples but I hope you see what I mean - I know nothing about that person's intelligence, so it's not intended to offend or humiliate or hurt, it's more shorthand for the fact they've done something very ill-thought out.

Errol

Thank you so much for your kind words, they mean a lot.
We are currently going through assessments for our 12 year old dd, she's similar to me but is bright.
I can only commend the support she is receiving, all involved in her case are amazing. I know there's still a long way to go to make the system fair, but it is 100% better than my experiences.
I have a PgCE and would love to be a TA but unfortunately my Maths just isn't up to it (age 7)

According to the link someone posted "stupid" means (at worst) "lacking judgement or sense". I don't see how that correlates to LDs etc. I completely get it with the other terms but not this.