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bibbitybobbityyhat · 15/07/2016 08:12

I'm not the most tech savvy person, can anyone help please?

Last night I was posting on Mumsnet and an advert for a sex chat site appeared out of nowhere which had a close up video of a woman using a vibrator on herself that completely filled the screen Angry.

How did I inadvertently do this? It was on the Louise Mensch thread, I followed a link to the tweet and read it, then went back to post my message. I think when I hit post is when the porn appeared but I can't be entirely sure. I couldn't work out how to get it to stop either for a minute, or how to close the page.

I don't want porn on my phone ffs! What can I do?

DawnMumsnet · 15/07/2016 10:43

Hi bibbity,

Sorry to hear something dodgy has popped up on your phone.

We're going to move this thread over to Site Stuff and flag the issue to our Tech and Ads team to see if they can check things out.

DawnMumsnet · 17/07/2016 13:14

Hi again bibbity,

If you're using an android phone, then you're more than likely using the mobile site. There IS no app currently available on android, only for iPhones (but we're working on it!) Smile

Has the dodgy porn popped up again since Friday? Our Tech team are on the case, but we're hoping you haven't been subjected to it again in the meantime.

DawnMumsnet · 17/07/2016 13:21

@Roussette

Bibbity... I am the virus person with the thread but it was from a link that someone posted.

Unfortunately it's turned out to be worst scenario imaginable, I have to go back to Win8.1 and basically start again with installing Win10. I just hope i can get it installed before the free update expires at the end of the month. Have had to back everything up, will lose all my programs settings etc and my laptop is now with a virus expert to do some of this costing £100. Even my homepage of google was a fake page as was all searches, everything has been compromised and that's just from clicking a link on here, so I hope your probelm is not as bad as mine.

Gosh, Roussette, we're so very sorry that your laptop has been compromised by what appears to have been a dodgy link posted on here. We really hope the expert manages to sort things and that you haven't lost anything crucial. Gutted for you at the expense, though. Sad

We'd always advise caution before clicking on any links that are posted online - we're sorry if this advice is too late for you, Roussette. If you're ever suspicious of a link, please don't click on it, just report it to us so we can check it out or remove it altogether.

We really hope your laptop recovers. Flowers

KateMumsnet · 19/07/2016 20:17

Hi all - really, really sorry about this. We're alerting the tech team now and hopefully they'll get to the bottom of things pronto. We'll report back as soon as we've got more news.

KateMumsnet · 19/07/2016 20:27

Hi all

Just to clarify - have some of you had this happen when you clicked on links to Mumsnet threads?

And some of you just suddenly found yourselves redirected to a porn page, without having just clicked on anything at all?

PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 19/07/2016 21:22

Thanks for all the screenshots of where it's happening folks ( we don't need that kind of screenshot)
We are getting to the bottom of it asap

PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 19/07/2016 22:41

WE've got tech working on this right now
In the meantime thanks to thoe who have posted helpful links - we'll remove those to prevent any extra traffic but thanks for refs
Please do keep any other instances coming so we can fix this

PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 19/07/2016 22:43

@AYD2MITalkTalk

Sorry Olivia Blush

Oh gosh, please don't apologise
I prob wasn't clear - what I meant was

  • screenshots of what's going on/where you're being linked from good sites to wrong uns= good
  • screenshots of porn = no thank you very much

PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 19/07/2016 22:47

But we do understand why you've screen grabbed to show us as NE CRICKET PAS
Apols again

KateMumsnet · 19/07/2016 23:08

Hello again everyone

We're really sorry this has taken so long - the redirects are bloody horrid and we're mortified that you've been subject to them.

Unfortunately we've not been able to identify the rogue ad, so we're turning them all off now. This will take about 30 mins so please do bear with us till then.

In the morning we'll regroup and try again, and we might at that point enlist your help by asking some of you to download an app that makes it easier for us to hunt down the culprits, but we'll explain more tomorrow. Apols again, folks, really.

danielbtech · 20/07/2016 10:14

Hi all,

Dan from Tech here, we're sorry to hear this is happening, nothing worse than going to a thread about school uniforms and being blasted with porn popups.

Reading through this thread it looks like this is happening to people using android devices, so it sounds like some malware/vicious app has been downloaded onto your phones. At the moment there seems to be a big issue with fake versions of the Pokemon Go app that seem to be causing malware issues, you can read more about that here:
www.ibtimes.co.uk/pokemon-go-fake-android-app-delivers-first-ever-lockscreen-malware-that-clicks-porn-ads-1570930

But don't panic these can be removed. Here are some tips on how to get rid of malware on your device:

www.androidcentral.com/help-my-android-has-malware

The general idea is to remove any suspicious apps from your phone, download some anti virus software onto your device like AVG and run a scan to check if any malware remains. If those fail then I would backup anything from your phone you would like to keep like photos/messages and do a full factory reset. Obviously this is a last resort just incase the first two don't work.

Let me know if you need anymore information on this Smile

danielbtech · 20/07/2016 11:20

Hi all,

Thanks for all of the feedback.

For all those who have checked their devices anti-virus and are still seeing porn ads this morning we are still busy looking into what is causing the issue, we will have further information for you later today.

Thanks Smile

danielbtech · 20/07/2016 14:40

Here's some background info on these rogue ads and why we sometimes struggle to track them down - including details of how you might be able to help us in future, by downloading an app which grabs the info we need. Many thanks in advance if you are able to help - much appreciated as ever.

Why are Mumsnet showing me these annoying pop-up ads?
Mumsnet sell some of our advertising space directly to approved advertisers, but we also sell some through third-party partners. We do not sell pop-up ads ourselves - we know they are a really frustrating format. We have measures in place to prevent them being sold via third-party partners too, but rarely, unscrupulous parties manage to outwit the systems that are in place on most websites, including Mumsnet.

Why does it take so long to stop these adverts?
We work hard to stop these adverts as quickly as we can, but it’s difficult to work out where it’s coming from with only a screenshot or a URL; the fact that they are handled through a variety of third-party partners can also complicate things. Sometimes these adverts are only shown to users on specific mobile networks in specific cities within short bursts of time – again, this makes them hard for us to find.

Why can’t you find the advert from the URL?
You might have noticed on websites such as Twitter or Facebook that the link you click on is completely different to the page you are directed to. For example: t.co/sWSLYXccEv takes you to a Mumsnet books page. This is the same for online advertising – sometimes the page you land on is different to the URL we are told is serving. Whilst the final URL can be useful, we often need more information to track down the issue quickly.

How can I help Mumsnet stop these ads?
To help us stop these ads we need as much information from you as possible. This includes the phone type you were using, the browser or app, your mobile network provider, your location, time of day and - most importantly - the ‘ad calls’.

What are ad calls?
Ad calls are a piece of code that are loaded onto a page to request an advert to appear. Ad calls can pass from one party to another and sometimes one ad trigger several ad calls before an ad appears - we will often need to know the full chain of events to help us identify the guilty party.

How can I capture ad calls?
There is a free app on the Apple App Store called HTTP Watch that can help you easily capture all this information which you can then send onto us. It functions exactly like a normal web browser – but also captures every ad call and ad response that occur while you browse.

Will HTTP Watch record any private information such as login details?
No, your personal data is not captured. All that is captured are the various requests and responses that the page you are browsing makes - such as requests to third-parties to return adverts on the page.

How to use the HTTP Watch app

  1. If you are experiencing issues with adverts on your mobile device, go to the Apple App Store and download the free HTTP Watch Basic app.
  2. Once downloaded, open the app and type in the URL of the page where you last saw the bad ad
  3. If you do not see the bad ad, tap on the spanner icon at the bottom of the screen and tap ‘Clear Log’. If you don’t do this, the file may become too large to use.
  4. Refresh the page or go to another page to see if the ad appears. If the ad does not appear then repeat step 3.
  5. Once you see the bad ad you need to tap on the icon that looks like three horizontal bars in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. This is where all the ad calls have been captured whilst you have been browsing.
  6. Now tap the icon in the top right of the screen that is three horizontal lines.
  7. Tap ‘Email’ and then send this whole file to [email protected] , explaining what you saw with as much detail as you can.

Thanks again for your patience and help with this – it’s much appreciated.

danielbtech · 20/07/2016 16:28

Hi OhYouBadBadKitten

Unfortunately there are no simple apps like the iOS app on android for this that we know of, we will keep you informed if we find something

YetAnotherHelenMumsnet · 20/07/2016 19:47

Ugh, how horrible. The tech team is still working on this. We really appreciate your patience, we know this is unpleasant and are very sorry that it's still happening.

KateMumsnet · 20/07/2016 22:42

Hi all

Our ad partners' tech teams have been scanning MN all day but alas, have not been able to replicate the issues. They've asked for some help from MNers, so if anyone is able to do the following we'd all be extremely grateful.

In order to pinpoint the rogue ad we need to obtain a clicktag on a mobile device. To obtain this, click and hold on the ad, and wait for a popup displaying a URL to appear. Copy the URL, and send that to [email protected], along with a description of the pop-up and/or a screenshot.

Thanks so much for your help and patience everyone.

danielbtech · 21/07/2016 14:38

Thank you for all the feedback you have given, the information you have provided has been a great help.

We are trying out a temporary change on the site

Could you please clear your cache on your device first. If you are then still receiving unwanted popups or redirects after this, then can you please email [email protected] the following details.

  • Date and time of when the ad appeared (as close as possible)
  • Location
  • Type of device you are using
  • The page you are on
  • Landing page of the ad, if tap and hold on your device and click copy link you will get this

To clear your cache on iOS and Android devices, the following guides will help:

iOS: www.cio.com/article/3011876/ios/ios-9-clear-cookies-browsing-history-and-data-from-safaris-cache.html
Android: www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-clear-cookies-cache-and-history-in-Chrome-for-Android_id70104

Once again, thank you for all your feedback.

EmmanuelleMumsnet · 21/07/2016 23:12

Hi there,

Just to let you know our tech team is working hard to get to the bottom of this and fix it.

We're really sorry Flowers.

KateMumsnet · 22/07/2016 00:57

Hello everyone

Really sorry for the limited updates today - we are working hard on this, honestly, but we just haven't been able to replicate the issue at all here yet.

Today we turned off all the ads which are served through third-party partners, to try and narrow things down. It sounds as though some of you were still getting pop-ups, though, so earlier tonight we turned ads off altogether on the Talk section of the mobile site (ie if you're browsing threads on a mobile).

I'm not a techy I'm afraid but it does sound as though the only way to get to the bottom of this is with information from MNers. If this has happened to you, could you please clear your cache (sorry, we know it's a pain)? If it then happens again on Talk, on a mobile device please please do send the following info to [email protected].

  • Date and time of when the ad appeared (as close as possible)
  • Location
  • Type of device you are using
  • The Mumsnet page you are on
  • The URL of the landing page of the ad - tap and hold on your device and click 'copy link' to get this

Here are instructions for clearing the cache on [[www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-clear-cookies-cache-and-history-in-Chrome-for-Android_id70104
android phones]] and iOS phones.

Thanks so much everyone - all info is much appreciated.

KateMumsnet · 22/07/2016 01:36

@LassWiTheDelicateAir

Clearing cache doesn't stop this. I cleared the cache after getting the porn site and still got the Tesco ad

Lass, I think the cache clearing is supposed to help the tech team narrow things down, rather than anything else. Could you let us know when you cleared it, and also when you saw the Tesco pop-up, so that we can cross-check with the times that we took action at this end? The other information requested above would also be useful (although obviously you can't copy the url of the ad now).

ItsAllGoingToBeFine, these are very good questions. I've got to turn in now or I'll be no use for owt tomorrow, but let me check back with the tech team first thing and get back to you.

Night all and apols again.

RebeccaMumsnet · 22/07/2016 09:38

Hi all,

Apologies that this is taking so long to sort and that you haven't heard from us.

We have turned off all ads from the mobile site and we'd really like your help by telling us if you still see any popups. If you do, can you please email [email protected] the following details.

  • Date and time of when the ad appeared (as close as possible)
  • Location
  • Type of device you are using
  • The page you are on
  • Landing page of the ad, if tap and hold on your device and click copy link you will get this

I know some of you struggled to send mails yesterday, we only received two, so if the mail bounces, please do PM me and I'll send the info to tech.

Apologies all, we really hope to get this sorted asap.

RebeccaMumsnet · 22/07/2016 09:55

@SecretSpy

I've not had any today, yet.

Excellent stuff, please do keep us posted.

RebeccaMumsnet · 22/07/2016 10:48

Thanks all for being brilliant with this. The information you have provided has been really helpful.

We think we have pinpointed the issue our end and we are going to turn the ads back on and see what happens. Please do report back to us if you see any pop-ups asap. It is important that you let us know either way as we are still unable to replicate this in the office so any sightings by you are essential for us to hear about.

Fingers crossed, we've found the issue. Please do keep us posted.

RebeccaMumsnet · 22/07/2016 14:30

@AtAt

No dodgy links, but is this one of the things we were looking out for? Just tried to flip a thread I was reading and got this.

Thanks AtAt, no, that looks like a slow connection, it happens sometimes. Just hit refresh and you should get the normal page. Do let us know if not...

KateMumsnet · 22/07/2016 18:34

We are still holding our breath here a bit, but it does seem that it might be resolved .

Thank you all so much for bearing with us - your patience and help was much appreciated.

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