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Pronouns

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VincentVanLowe · 25/02/2016 23:15

Can mumsnet please clarify, will posts be deleted if they do not use a person's 'preferred pronouns'?

The idea that people can choose their pronouns is very new and specific to the ideology of transgender activists in English speaking Western culture. I do not share this ideology and I use pronouns in the generally accepted, historically consistent, biologically accurate way. As far as I am aware it is not illegal to use pronouns this way, and certainly the general population, medical doctors, academics and other groups continue to use pronouns in the usual way rather than in the way currently popular amongst trans activists and tumblr bloggers. So - is it acceptable for us to choose not to use 'preferred pronouns' if it conflicts with our own ethical frameworks?

Many thanks.

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RebeccaMumsnet · 26/02/2016 11:48

Hi all,

It's about being civil and respectful.

We have discussed Transgenderism extensively on Mumsnet and we ask that folks think about the effect that their words could have on others.

As this topic is very much up for discussion, we do understand the confusion. If folks are maliciously misgendering to cause offence, we will remove the post. If there is a discussion about misgendering and posters are using examples or stating their personal views, that is different and will remain.

Each thread and post are a judgement call, we continue to review this at MNHQ and it's always good to hear your views on the topic.

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RebeccaMumsnet · 26/02/2016 14:31

@OhShutUpThomas

Each thread and post are a judgement call, we continue to review this at MNHQ and it's always good to hear your views on the topic.

Good to hear. I do agree with this -

Are you suggesting, Rebecca/MNHQ, that we would have to discuss her as a black woman in posts regarding her?

Because of being 'civil and respectful'?

Or would you be more concened about being civil and respectful towards the black people who may find her behaviour/self identification issues wholly offensive?

Why is this different?

But for now, to see that you're not having a blanket rule, and are assessing posts individually, is good.

Thanks for the reply.

Well, to be honest we see these as two very different cases. Rachel Dolezal is an individual whose actions have been was widely criticised.

Transgenderism is a minority group.

We would not deal with them in the same way at all.

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RebeccaMumsnet · 26/02/2016 14:51

The difference is individual vs group

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RebeccaMumsnet · 26/02/2016 15:24

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Rachel Dolezal is an individual whose actions have been was widely criticised

The difference is individual vs group

So we should refer to Dolezal as black then?

No, apologies if i've been unclear. Rachel Dolezal is an individual, Transgenderism is a minority group of individuals. Rachel Dolezal is not part of a minority group.

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