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Site attacks, hackergate and resetting passwords - here's what we know, what we're doing about it and what we think you should do. PLEASE READ!

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JustineMumsnet · 18/08/2015 15:37

On the night of Tuesday 11 August, Mumsnet came under attack from what's known as a denial of service (DDoS) attack. Our servers were bombarded with requests, which required our internet service provider to massively increase server capacity to cope. We were able to restore the site at 10am on Wednesday 12 August. Meanwhile a Twitter account, @DadSecurity, claimed responsibility, saying in various tweets "Now is the start of something wonderful", "RIP Mumsnet", "Nothing will be normal anymore" and "Our DDoS attacks are keeping you offline".

To add to the 'fun', it seems @DadSecurity also resorted to Swatting attacks. Swatting is a criminal practice in which someone makes an emergency call to the police claiming that a crime is taking place at the house of the intended victim, in order to get them to send a swat team to the address.

An armed response team turned up at my house last week in the middle of the night, after reports of a gunman prowling around. A Mumsnet user who engaged with @DadSecurity on Twitter was warned to "prepare to be swatted by the best" in a tweet that included a picture of a swat team, after which police arrived at her house late at night following a report of gunshots. Needless to say, she and her young family were pretty shaken up. It's worth saying that we don't believe these addresses were gained directly from any Mumsnet hack, as we don't collect addresses. The police are investigating both instances.

@DadSecurity also claimed that he had access to Mumsnet user data. Later on 12 August, it became apparent that someone/ones had hacked into some of Mumsnet's administrative functions, at which point they were able to redirect our homepage to the @DadSecurity Twitter profile page, as well as to edit posts from two users' account and an MNHQ account on our forums.

Someone claiming to be the hacker also posted on the thread on which users were discussing the site outage. We immediately locked down all access to our admin functions and reported the attack to the police. We were confident that users' passwords had not been accessed, because MNHQ doesn't hold them as plain text; they're all encrypted, so that no one - not even us - can see them.

However, over the weekend, a user reported that posts had been made under her name which weren't by her, and we spotted two other cases where this had happened. This clearly suggested that the hacker had nonetheless been able to get hold of some users' passwords.

Our best guess at this stage (and it is just a best guess) is that this has been done via a form of phishing, in which the hacker creates a fake Mumsnet login page to which users are directed when clicking on our login button. The page would have had a different url but otherwise would look just like the usual page. The hacker would have been able to see passwords in plain text when they were typed in.

We take great care to protect the information you give us and not to ask for or store any more information than we need to run the site, but though we can't know how many accounts have been affected, there have been enough breaches for us to ask all Mumsnet users to change their passwords. As a result, you'll no longer be able to log in to Mumsnet with your current password, and will need to create a new one, here.

This will mean that any passwords the hacker has been able to harvest up to this point will be useless. We are looking into what we can do to strengthen our defences against phishing, but in the meantime we need to ask you to be vigilant, and to check the URL of the login page for the foreseeable future. The correct URL is www.mumsnet.com/session/login and it reads rather than at the beginning. We will place a warning on the login page reminding you to do this.

Alternatively use the social login option (ie Facebook/Google) as then you won't be required to enter a password. And if you log into any other sites using the same password that you use on Mumsnet, it makes sense to change your password on those sites, too.

We're really sorry for the alarm and inconvenience this might cause, and we realise you're likely to have further questions about what's been happening, so here's a summary of answers to the most obvious questions.

You say the hacker was able to access Mumsnet users' data: was data from my personal account accessed?
We have no way of knowing how many Mumsnetters were affected - so far we have evidence of 11 user accounts being hacked but it's an ongoing investigation. Those users have been informed, and their passwords have been reset. We think it prudent, however, that everyone reset their passwords - which in any case is a sensible thing to do from time to time.

What data could the hacker see?
By using your password and login, he would have been able to see the data on your profile - so that includes your username or email plus your password, your postcode if you've supplied it, your username history and your Mumsnet inbox.

Now that I've changed my password, can you guarantee that my data is safe?
Unfortunately, we can't give you a cast-iron guarantee of this - no site can. By forcing a password reset the hacker won't be able to log in as you; however, if phishing was the cause, the page could be phished again, which is why it's important that you check the URL of the login page when you enter your details, or use your social login. If the URL is anything other than www.mumsnet.com/session/login, don't use it.

Final thoughts
The internet is of course brilliant, but it's not 100% safe and secure. Whenever you share anything on the web, either publicly (such as on a Mumsnet thread) or privately (such as the data you give to a website when signing up), have a think about how happy you'd be for that information to fall into the hands of someone else. Make your passwords as secure as possible and change them every few months. Use different passwords for different accounts. Close redundant accounts that you no longer use.

And if you read nothing else...
I do realise this post is long, so here's a quick summary:

DO reset your Mumsnet password
DO make passwords really strong to reduce the risk of them being guessed
DO check the URL of any login page to reduce risk of phishing
DO verify that is being used on login pages
DO use social login to avoid typing passwords
DON'T give out information to any organisations without verifying they are who they say they are (such as the fake @mumsnetsupport twitter account that had also been started but has now been removed by Twitter)

Please post here or mail us on [email protected] with any questions or thoughts. As you can imagine our inbox is fairly voluminous at the moment but we'll get back to you as quickly as we can.

Thanks very much for reading,

Justine

OP posts:
cleanindahouse · 18/08/2015 20:57

I had one with a link that didn't work and i couldn't access my account, but eventually managed to reset and all is ok.

cozietoesie · 18/08/2015 20:59

I just checked my spam and there was nothing there. I wonder, though, whether a huge outflow of emails from the same source at the same time and of (presumably) the same size could just have triggered some first line spam filter for certain providers? (I know that there are a whole load that never even reach my spam box.)

PlayingSolitaire · 18/08/2015 20:59

It's funny how it's not on more news sites (only telegraph and new statesman). From a quick google, I can't find any publicly recorded incidents of any other "swatting" attacks in the UK. Seems a big thing to me?

LocalEditorEssex · 18/08/2015 21:01

For those of you not getting the email I use gmail and mine went to my promotions folder earlier today.
Check you spam and other folders.

LocalEditorEssex · 18/08/2015 21:01

*your

RebeccaMumsnet · 18/08/2015 21:01

Hi all,

We have had a large volume of emails tonight about all of this, please bear with us, we will get back to you as soon as it's possible.

exLtEveDallas · 18/08/2015 21:02

No problem with changing my (very secure) password. I got the email (into my junk folder - my hotmail account is automatically set for everything to go to junk) and haven't had any issues logging back on.

ScrambledSmegs · 18/08/2015 21:05

I reckon Jeffrey's got an Oedipus complex.

Pipbin · 18/08/2015 21:05

No email here either. Not a problem, just flagging it up.

DawnOfTheDoggers · 18/08/2015 21:06

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lovestea · 18/08/2015 21:08

I use gmail and I did not get the email. Not in Promotions or inbox. Nadda.

Evilwater · 18/08/2015 21:11

I got two e-mails about the password change.
I also got an e-mail about promotions, this morning before I checked MN site
Confused

Am I safe?

cleanindahouse · 18/08/2015 21:12

Is it just me that wonders if jeffrey has all of mnhq tied up while he wickedly posts as various staff members.

Colandular did warn us...

MarchLikeAnAntt · 18/08/2015 21:13

That's what has happened to my email too DawnOfTheDoggers

Bloody Jeffrey Angry

cozietoesie · 18/08/2015 21:13

Ditto to Pipbin - it's not an issue for me that I haven't received the email. (I've read this thread.) I was just flagging it up.

RebeccaMumsnet · 18/08/2015 21:15

@cleanindahouse

Is it just me that wonders if jeffrey has all of mnhq tied up while he wickedly posts as various staff members.

Colandular did warn us...

Cubes of poo, yoni massage etc, we're here Grin

Pipbin · 18/08/2015 21:18

'Cubes of poo'? Do you mean poo flakes?
How do we know you are who you say you are? What do you know of penguin bollards? What is EKL and what did she watch?

howtorebuild · 18/08/2015 21:19

Cubes ?Shock, I remember crumbs, sadly.

CantSee4Looking · 18/08/2015 21:19

Rebecca
Could you answer my question about the log in page differing urls please then?

DawnOfTheDoggers · 18/08/2015 21:19

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Pumpkinette · 18/08/2015 21:20

For the past week I have frequently had to log back in when I came back after a few hours and occasionally in the middle of reading a thread (clicking from one page to another). Most strange. I am wondering now if this has perhaps due to too many failed log in attempts (if perhaps someone has been trying usernames with a password generator)

Also speculating on who this could be. DadSec is suspiciously similar to a 'hacker group' in a computer game called Watch Dogs - DedSec.

ScrambledSmegs · 18/08/2015 21:21

The Telegraph is not-so subtly pointing the finger at F4J, but I'm far from convinced (and giving them unnecessary publicity, to boot).

ScrambledSmegs · 18/08/2015 21:23

Cubes is very, very old.

Where do you keep your boobly plate, Rebecca?

SabrinnaInUtopia · 18/08/2015 21:25

Oh I loved EKL, it was my favourite thread ever. She'd sort little Jeffrey out with one stern look Grin

I'm Shock at the Swatting though - as I understand it, this is a US thing normally done to gamers playing online so the Swatters can watch it unfold via the player's own webcam.

PlentyOfPubeGardens · 18/08/2015 21:27

PW successfully changed and personal details removed from account info.

Hope everybody's OK, Flowers Brew Wine Gin all round, especially Justine and Bear.