Isn't about time MNHQ started deleting posts that attack people's spelling and grammar?

[cuntycowfacemonkey]

(In advance I will say any of my posts are likely to have spelling and grammar mistakes)

It's such a shitty thing to do and often it is directed at poster who then feel they have to explain themselves and disclose they have dyslexia. I don't understand why MN tolerate people with potential disabilities being mocked in this way?

Why can it not be regarded as a personal attack and such comments deleted. Very often the arses that post comments about another posters spelling bring nothing else to the thread and usually it derails the thread and the OP's original issue gets lost in the ensuing bunfight.

Worra.

Jux, I make the common mistakes a LOT more since I started all my time on the interwebs. I don't think I ever confused their/there, of/off, and so on before going digital. It's how language changes, though, isn't it? Read loads of quality literature; your language improves. Read plenty of "would of"s and your unscrupulous mind pushes it out through your fingers when you meant "have"!

Yeah, it's tricky. And I would be a bit worried that she'd make those errors elsewhere - but does she?

Some people do make errors writing informally and correct the when they know they're writing formally, and I would expect a TA to know that if she's writing something for the children, she needs to check it. I teach too, and that is what I do.

Actually I like prig too. It's a word that's just not used enough. I may make it my business to work it into everyday conversations from now on

name, I think you're badly wrong in your last post.

This whole thread is a variation of the same thing: people who have at some point in their life written a ten thousand word essay and see all written communication in the same light, versus people who basically write what they would say in speech. ... So someone who's writing "your" for "you're" or vice versa is unlikely to know how to get it right in any register (see also its versus it's). People who do know the difference will get it right in any circumstance.

This isn't true of dyslexics (it's almost a definition of dyslexia that it's not), and it's not true of many people who've not had great education. It may be true of some others. I don't know.

devora pointed out she is someone who's written whole books, and she still doesn't come down on the 'we should correct' side of things.

For me personally, I will make errors because there is a fault in the way my brain co-ordinates memory, sound and writing: the three things don't work together the way they should, so I can write 'you're' when I mean 'your' and not realize. That's very common.

confused - I mean, since FB is an informal medium, someone writing 'you're' instead of 'your' seems fine to me.

I was unfortunate enough not to receive a very good education, and on top of this am dyslexic.
Having been bullied by the teachers throughout my schooling I felt it was up to me to try to better myself.
I worked hard on spelling and handwriting and in adulthood was fortunate enough to marry dh who had a grammar school education, who tirelessly corrects me and a fantastic college/ uni that gave me an excellent education.

I love people pointing out my mistakes and try to take things on board.
My knowledge of grammar and the rules for English Language are pretty non existent but I do try.

I have received counselling for the miserable childhood I had, solely through attending the schools I did.
Now, I manage but take huge exception to nasty sneery comments that some people make.
There is helpful criticism or educating people or there is sneering and sarcasm
you need to realise that everyone isn't so well blessed with an appropriate education.

Corrections please

confused - I definitely write differently when I'm not at work!

I dunno. I think personally, I probably wouldn't have parents on my FB (that strikes me as a lot more unprofessional).

It is difficult, because I would like to say that if I were a TA, I wouldn't mind explaining I make silly errors but do know the proper words. But I expect actually I would feel ashamed and want to be extra careful never to slip up. And I would be very worried about writing something incorrect where children might see it, because it matters a lot at school age.

But, confused, how do you apply this to yourself? Why are her errors so worrying, when you seem to be admitting you write just as badly for work as you do on here?

I think it's a case of asking posters to not behave like a dick.

Maybe good grammar doesn't come easily to the TA so she has to constantly think about it and check her work when she's in school?

I imagine sitting at home with her feet up and a glass of wine whilst Facebooking, would send her into 'relaxed mode' so her grammar/spelling might be different.

Some people really do have to try hard at these things but we're all allowed to relax and just chat, without disrupting the flow.

Even with my bad English I taught for a while, it is possible.
I always made sure I checked words I was unsure of and if I didn't a bright student would usually pick me up on it.
My support and line manager at the college deemed this fine as by the time they were working at this level they had GCSE English, some had A level.
The course I taught had nothing to do with Maths or English, thank goodness.

I do think teachers and TA's need to be careful when teaching children though.
I remember dd starting school and seeing a label on a box stating "Roll Play"
The saddest thing was pointing it out to the TA, who said she hadn't noticed it before and it had been there for years

I thought you were saying you thought people don't generally write differently on a forum like MN, or FB, from the way they do at work?

YY, agree strongly with that more.

It is very different if you're teaching someone who relies on you for the correct version.

But your grammar and punctuation are faulty, aren't they?

And I don't see why they would be so different from spelling.

I thought you were saying you thought people don't generally write differently on a forum like MN, or FB, from the way they do at work?

My gut feel is that even if the register and audience is different, the underlying grammatical and lexicographic accuracy isn't (modulo a wide range of caveats about SpLDs, as you accurately pointed up upthread in response to me). Forensic linguists claim to be able to spot individuals' idiolects even when they are deliberately attempting to conceal it, for example. But it's all anecdote, and there's quite clearly a bunch of PhDs in testing the propositions more widely (indeed, just framing the research questions isn't easy). I know both corpus and computational linguists, but actually getting a corpus on which to test this proposition would be very difficult and riddled with ethical and IPR issues.

I think people who correct peoples grammer and spelling are complete cunts to be honest - its not work, or school FFS

people slate text speak, yet its like a Unicorn in that I have have never seen it on here!

what makes me cringe, a rare "new" poster that comes on and post an emotive text speak filled rant on something oer other, aka "Jademommyof3"- they get killed- like a butterfly in a wheel.

Not LOLZZZZ, not LMFAO

Wasn't it you who wrote 'if I was' a few posts back, then asked for corrections?