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Can we change the radfem section to...

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Sparklyboots · 03/07/2012 15:20

Is it just me, or was I just oppressed?' - a Fem AIBU

Last I saw, the Radfem board was generally unwanted, I know I don't want it... What do we all think? Can we discuss it as a purely technical question, not because I don't think the other discussions which keep going poof aren't important, but because (a) they aren't the question here and (b) they keep going poof without us resolving the radfem area...

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ThePan · 05/07/2012 00:01

well, what with your irrascible dry humour that means I have to wipe my screen of tea on a regular basis, witty and informative insights, your intelligent design on the S&B topic - yeah, oppress the woman!Smile

garlicbutt · 05/07/2012 00:31

If you will forgive my po-faced post pundit hat (it goes nicely with my grumpy old gimmer outfit) ...

Over the past year or so, there's been a small but influential development: websites like Hollaback inviting women to document everyday harassments and suchlike. I wonder if an "AIBO" type board could contribute to this exposure of constant sexist crap?

Mind you, that could be done on AIBU but it'd be a bit tiring to deal with all the "get over it" comments Confused

StandYourGround · 05/07/2012 03:14

I have an idea. We could rename rad fems 'Women - Know Your Limits.' Like on the harry enfield show. Tis a ravver clever and works on so many levels, ya see?! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease....

TunipTheVegemal · 05/07/2012 08:55

I must say I'm loving AIBO. Not instead of one of the other sections, just as an adjunct. It could be both thought-provoking and a hoot.

TunipTheVegemal · 05/07/2012 08:55

& Oaty, you have a very good point indeed about radical bonsai. Bonsai is totally rad!

SarkyWench · 05/07/2012 09:47

I'm a bit worried that radical gardening might be misunderstood by the ladygarden tending brigade Hmm

HotheadPaisan · 05/07/2012 11:39

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SarkyWench · 05/07/2012 12:31

I hope that is in no way connected to the ladygardens.

tethersend · 05/07/2012 19:51

Why Pan, you are oppressive.

But I like you.

tethersend · 05/07/2012 19:52
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Sparklyboots · 05/07/2012 22:05

Okay, am now fully torn between AIBO and Women! Know Your Limits! Garlicbutt, I have enjoyed all your outfits and really like your thinking that it would contribute to Hollaback style action.

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEase, MN can you think about it, pleeeeeeeeeease

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 05/07/2012 22:40

Love it. We need both.

garlicbutt · 05/07/2012 22:45

Thanks, Sparkly, I was thinking your boots might go well with one of my alliterative outfits.

Unfortunately, I can't think of one beginning with S right now.

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Sparklyboots · 07/07/2012 14:16

A feminist AIBO section would be good too, so long as we all knew it was a joke and that oppression doesn't work that way.

Slightly confused as to what you meant, Complexity, so I read the article you linked to, the gist of which includes:

"oppression can be hard to see and recognize"

and

"One cannot see the meanings of these rituals if one?s focus is riveted upon the individual event in all its particularity, including the particularity of the individual man?s present conscious intentions and motives and the individual woman?s conscious perception of the event in the moment"

An AIBO section would be directed exactly at those problems, no? Trying to work out whether an experience was actually part of systemic oppression or you were just being overly-sensitive. A case in point - I have my son in a sling - he's 18mo and it obviously looks like a struggle from the amount of help I am offered (with shopping, doors, etc. Isn't London lovely?). However, I always have my fem-nerve irritated in such contexts, because I hate being constructed as helpless as discussed in your article.

But as I'm not offered the same degree of help when I don't have him, I have to consider that I might be being overly-sensitive. The article you've linked to asks a clear question - is the help offered practical or purely symbolic, gestural? I think that on balance, it is practical - it is difficult to bend down etc. with him there, I'm not treated in the same way without him there therefore I'm not being 'constructed as helpless' on the basis of being female.

But I had been wondering AIBO? And actually your article helped clarify that for me. So this is a clear example of how AIBO would operate, and not as a joke. Are you convinced? Or do you think of it just as a joke?

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Sparklyboots · 07/07/2012 14:18

Garlicbutt have you never worn a Skeptical hat? Your Serious Face looks good with all your outfits.

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garlicbutt · 07/07/2012 14:48

Sparkly, you're a genius! Boots, please Grin

YY to your AIBO defence. Am very glad you analysed the sling-related offers of help and found YWBO! See, people are nice. Even men Wink

garlicbutt · 07/07/2012 14:50

Oops, YWNBO but YWBU. (Potential problem with the AIBU-related thread title Blush)

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