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Are Mumsnet rules just for the little people?

913 replies

Penandink · 12/02/2012 14:54

"Troll cries make MNers look silly. If you think the person is not real, you don't have to post - nobody has a gun at your head! If you suspect the person is false and trying to hurt, or get money, tell MNHQ! How terrible if genuine people - people in trouble, people at the end of their tether - come here as their last hope for some help and advice, are savaged and go off again, feeling terrible and that they don't have anywhere left to turn to?"

www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette

There is a very real problem on Mumsnet that there are a small group of posters who wilfully ignore this "rule" as and when it suits them. I think the problem is now institutionalised in MN as being the norm and acceptable.

These people just make stuff up about people they've never met. Once they do this other people pile in believing the bullshit, and then acting on it. The troll-hunters also don't seem to stop and think how their assumptions might affect - or even damage the rest of the site. Lets summarise their position: " I am OUTRAGED and APPALLED by something that may or may not have happened but can't be proved, because although I say it did, I won't provide any evidence"

Sometimes this place is more like a bear pit rather than a community of support and OBJECTIVE thinking and response.

They have their bit of fun and when their target gives up - off course they do having been hounded unmercifully - the Hunter claim that proves they were a troll. Disagree with the unters and sooner rather than later they will accuse you of being a man (their ultimate insult) or a troll. A suggestion that you should leave the site usually follows.

The "silent majority" don't put up with this. They just leave...

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LilacWaltz · 12/02/2012 19:32

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Now my post looks like I'm picking on a named poster!

RowanMumsnet · 12/02/2012 19:34

Shall I withdraw it for you, Lilac?

LilacWaltz · 12/02/2012 19:34

Yes please Rowan, might be for the best!

BeerTricksP0tter · 12/02/2012 19:36

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

higamoushogamous · 12/02/2012 19:40

I was accused of being a troll a couple of years back when I was going through a time of personal crisis. Strangely enough it was by one of the people who has said (above) that it has happened to her!

RowanMumsnet · 12/02/2012 19:41

@BeerTricksP0tter

Is that a new MNHQ tactic? Looming up behind posters saying "Shall I withdraw that for you, Madam?" in sonerous and menacing tones?

Could catch on - I like it!

ohmigod this is a GOOD idea

PeanutButterCupCake · 12/02/2012 19:42

Aaaaw rowan have you moved the buns out of reach?

Singling out posters isn't kind.
Seems to be a lot of angst on MN lately.

Was a bit scary beer like the headmistress just walked in Grin

BeerTricksP0tter · 12/02/2012 19:45

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miniwedge · 12/02/2012 19:48

These threads about troll hunting always make me larf. They seem a little bit ironic after Helen accused me of being a troll on one of the twitter threads (when the share thingy first came up)

I never did get an apology but there was a brief explanation on the thread that as I hadn't posted before I looked suspicious.....
I was on a name change. Which proves custys point really.

LilacWaltz · 12/02/2012 22:44

So where has op gone ?

Penandink · 13/02/2012 08:10

There is clear "no troll hunting" rule that we sign up to when we become members of Mumsnet. There are a small group of posters who ignore this role again and again. You only need to see the number of posts that this "hard core" have each had deleted to see how big the problem has become.

These people just make stuff up about people they've never met. They never offer any objective proof to support their bullshit concerns and seem indifferent as to the effect they have on anybody else.

They have their bit of fun and when their target stops posting - off course they do having been hounded unmercifully - the Hunters claim that proves they were a troll.

"Troll cries make MNers look silly. If you think the person is not real, you don't have to post - nobody has a gun at your head! If you suspect the person is false and trying to hurt, or get money, tell MNHQ! How terrible if genuine people - people in trouble, people at the end of their tether - come here as their last hope for some help and advice, are savaged and go off again, feeling terrible and that they don't have anywhere left to turn to?"

www.mumsnet.com/info/netiquette

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RealitySickOfSick · 13/02/2012 08:49

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QueenOfFeckingEverything · 13/02/2012 08:55

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JustHecate · 13/02/2012 09:12

ooer, I thought that quote seemed familiar.

Obviously I agree with you, OP Grin

OnlyANinja · 13/02/2012 09:31

:o at "shall I with draw that for you, madam?"

LilacWaltz · 13/02/2012 09:35

penandink who did you used to be? You must be a regular poster to 'know' all this stuff

Portofino · 13/02/2012 09:44

I agree with QueenOf. You roll up in a very unlikely place to say that most of what is written on the internet is made up and we shouldn't be surprised or upset that to find that something is not genuine. You then go on to say that questioning whether or not a thread is genuine or not does serious harm to other posters and the reputation of MN.

I am a bit Confused by your argument.

Pinot · 13/02/2012 09:59

How's a girl sposed to understand what the jeff is going on with all these deletions FFS?

PeanutButterCupCake · 13/02/2012 10:05

Ooooh didn't notice the deletions pinot think it was maybe because specific poster was named?

usualsuspect · 13/02/2012 10:07

Mine was deleted for mentioning the troll word

Pinot · 13/02/2012 10:09

Aha! Merci.

shabbapinkfrog · 13/02/2012 10:14

We have had several trolls such people posting on the bereaved Mums thread over the last couple of years. Some, I instantly suspect of being trolls suspicious!!! Over time it gradually becomes obvious. I always contact MNHQ and let them take over. Why anybody, in the right mind, would want to pretend to be bereaved of their child is way beyond my realms of understanding.

My DS4 (14 years) will give me the look that only a teenager can...walk over and close the laptop on my hands and say 'Mum, do NOT feed the troll Grin!!

Penandink · 13/02/2012 10:15

My argument really isn't hard to follow. Well I don't think it is.

Mumsnet has rules about Troll Hunting. Some members of Mumsnet obviously feel that they don't have to follow these rules and I would like to know why they think this is the case.

Troll hunting does harm to the site in a number of ways. HQ staff have explained in some detail why their approach to trolls is better than yours but you seem unable to accept their ruling. It does harm the reputation of Mumsnet that rules that people freely sign up to follow when they join are ignored, seemingly without any sanctions being taken.

The Hunters, some of whom have contributed to this thread, "duck and dive" to avoid addressing these points.

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OnlyANinja · 13/02/2012 10:17

Mumsnet also has rules about Trolling. Some members of Mumsnet obviously feel that they don't have to follow these rules and I would like to know why they think this is the case.

usualsuspect · 13/02/2012 10:20

Trolling does more harm than troll hunting