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No to formula Ad?

69 replies

Flossam · 23/08/2005 21:09

So MN HQ can have more help to figure out how people feel about the ad - post here if you don't like the ad being there. Hope they don't mind!

OP posts:
alux · 23/08/2005 23:47

no

suedonim · 23/08/2005 23:56

No. Why would a formula mfg want to support bfing?

mears · 24/08/2005 00:02

scroll down a few paragraphs to read about advertising

MarsLady · 24/08/2005 00:09

do you know I was determined not to look at the home page and the ad, but of course curiosity got to me. I have to say NO to the ad, because if I didn't know better I would have thought that it was written by MN and clicked on the link thinking that it was something they endorsed.

Of course having said that I think that they must endorse it somehow cos they have taken the money and the ad.

btw.. for those that may want to say I am anti formula.... the DTs got a bottle of formula each night so that I could sleep. This continued until they were able to have cows milk.

Caligula · 24/08/2005 00:12

Brilliant link

Caligula · 24/08/2005 00:12

Ooh , sorry, no.

What's the internet equivalant of the ASA?

mrspink27 · 24/08/2005 00:17

No - for all the reasons above.
Equally not anti formula as I did the same as MarsLady with both DDs. Its about brand awareness... and it is very sneaky. Milupa trying to make themselves all cuddly fluffy and caring sharing... i think not.. its about selling their product over any other, so that next time you'r in the supermarket you might just remember their name.
NO NO NO

bobbybob · 24/08/2005 02:03

I do have a theory that formula companies make more money out of breastfeeding mothers who wean at 6 months because they really seem to believe in follow on formula and even toddler milk, and continue using these for far longer. All the formula from birth people I know had their kids on cows milk at 10 months.

But it's still a big fat NO from me to the link.

gingerbear · 24/08/2005 09:56

no

elliott · 24/08/2005 10:09

no no no no
MN what are you thinking?

Demented · 24/08/2005 10:18

No from me but I do appreciate why MN took the ad.

Fennel · 24/08/2005 10:38

No. same reasons as WigWamBam and the others

Tinker · 24/08/2005 10:40

A NO vote to the hand. Corporate greed at its most smelliest.

Tinker · 24/08/2005 10:43

Hand? Ad!

harpsichordcarrier · 24/08/2005 10:48

no, for reasons succinctly explained by WWB among others.
(nice work from the Milupa marketing department though. very subtle.)

Tiggiwinkle · 24/08/2005 13:44

A definite NO!

monkeytrousers · 24/08/2005 13:54

No - against advertising sleight of hand.

Passionflower · 24/08/2005 18:00

Definitely no to ad.

triceratops · 24/08/2005 18:46

I think formula advertising is immoral

Nightynight · 24/08/2005 18:56

yes to straightforward information about formula, no to this particular ad.

alux · 24/08/2005 20:53

I hope cross posting is not offensive. here goes:

I am sending this off to trading standards:
To whom it may concern:

At the moment, Milupa is currently operating a website which is aimed at breastfeeding mothers. I raise my concerns with Trading Standards for several reasons. My primary reason is that I fear that it contravenes the International Code (1) which bans advertising formula to pregnant women or women with babies under 6 months. However, in my laywoman?s estimation I believe that the following articles of the International are also being breached by Milupa: 4.2 , 5.1, 5.2, 6.4 .

Milupa in my estimation has been very clever in disguising their infomercial website as a place where mums can meet, learn and discuss issues related to motherhood. Undoubtedly, one of the main topics for mums and mum-to-be will be feeding. Milupa has therefore provided a ?breastfeeding helpline? for concerned mums to ring.

Milupa knows fully well that 46% of UK mothers are no longer breastfeeding within six weeks of giving birth and it is down to 22% by six months. (2) They are therefore using this infomercial website to connect with those mothers who when they contact a helpline will be fraught with anxieties and very much accepting to the suggestion of a ?professional?.

It has been the experience of one mum who rang to find that the advisor who claimed to be a midwife vigorously pushed topping up her baby with formula. (3)

From my own experience, when I had a breastfeeding crisis at 3 weeks, I was pushed to top up with formula by my health visitor. I got a second opinion from an NCT counsellor who reassured and advised me on how to progress. Had I rang this helpline for a second opinion, I would have accepted the advice of their ?midwife? advisor instead as I was lonely, desperate, scared and under informed about breastfeeding at that time. Now that I understand how breastfeeding works, I estimate that within days I would have been totally formula feeding, much against my own wishes and abilities. I am currently still exclusively breastfeeding my 18 week only baby. (4)

There is a debate currently raging on Mumsnet.com, one of the UK?s best known motherhood websites, over this infomercial website. I am providing the links to the threads where many other valid concerns are raised which my letter has not touched.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1364&threadid=98457&stamp=050824090936

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1364&threadid=101169&stamp=050823231310

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1374&threadid=101173&stamp=050824183048

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1374&threadid=101327#scaddmsg

footnotes:

(1) www.babymilkaction.org/regs/fullcode.html

(2) www.show.scot.nhs.uk/breastfeed/stats.htm

(3)
By icklelulu on Tuesday, 16 August, 2005 4:53:26 PM
I have just got thru!They didnt mention formula for a few mins and I was thinking 'hmmm wots going on'! THEN 'maybe you should compliment your baby' that was it she kept metioning it after that! I said I was very determined to exculsively breastfeed even if I was finding it hard only using one boob(BTW I used the abscess story, it was true so I couldnt really go wrong). I asked if she was quilified and she used to work as a midwife. Suggested the usual things to try to make my only usable boob comfortable. Lasinoh, leaving milk to dry on the nipple etc She said it wouldnt be the end of the world if I did have to compliment my DS with a formula feed. I must say though I was quite surprised, I thought they would have unqualified persons on the phone and that they would tell me to just give up breastfeeding but saying that once formula was mentioned it kept cropping up ALOT! I thought she might stop mentioning formula as I was emphasising the fact that breast is best and thats wot I intended my DS to have.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1364&threadid=75972#1669173

alux · 24/08/2005 21:15

oops correction in order: only 46% of UK mothers are breastfeeding at 6 wks and only 22% at 6 months.

Feffi · 24/08/2005 21:35

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tissy · 24/08/2005 21:44

no

LIZS · 24/08/2005 21:45

no to this particular campaign

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