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Imprints (hand/foot prints in clay, sold via John Lewis...)

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Qally · 18/02/2009 17:49

My mother arranged for my baby to have his hand and foot prints cast in clay as my Christmas present, with the company who do this as a franchise in John Lewis. The women doing it were lovely, we chatted about his feeding difficulties as one had a daughter with some, joked about how vile one of the colours was (a puce - dirty pinky/brown that looked somehow surgical) and chose a soft grey as it was neutral, so it'd go with whatever house we live in in 2048. We left in a bit of a hurry as the next people were there. I've been dorkily excited about this ever since. We had our handprints done as kids too, and they're so tiny now it's almost impossible to believe we were ever that small, and he's growing so fast. So when they called after 4 weeks and said it was there, I was chuffed.

They'd fired it with that puce glaze. My cousin was here this weekend, and at first made soothing noises about how it couldn't be that bad, she was sure - then when she saw it her face fell and she just went, "yuck". It's that bad. I'm not into blue for boys/pink for girls, but ffs, who'd see a virulently pink colour selected for a glazed hand and foot print that had "Toby" underneath, and not at least query it? I'm ashamed to confess that I actually cried when I saw it - he'd had it done at 9 weeks, he's now 15 weeks and that tiny baby is gone forever. And it is so, so ugly. I can only think that the assistants wrote down the colour absent-mindedly, instead of the neutral one we'd picked because I snorted about how hideous it was and we were chatting about why she'd had to wean her dd at 4 months at the time.

John Lewis were really sympathetic and tackled the company, who insisted no mistake was made and refused to offer anything in recompense - no at cost (or even reduced) repeat session, nothing. JL were really apologetic and offered to pay half the full cost for us as they agreed it was a blatant mistake, but frankly I don't see why a co-operative company (in effect, every person who works there) should pay for a screw up by a third party, and I don't want to pay the sods whose fault it actually is twice, either! I feel really angry, as it's like they know mothers who want the things want them badly enough they will fork out for a second go if it goes wrong. They don't need to do anything to make it right - and it cost £60, ffs, it wasn't pennies. And pathetic as it sounds, I'm so upset. It was a really special momento of my DS when he was really teeny, and now it's just ugly. Still precious to me, but so fricking ugly.

Best part? They said, all magnanimously, that I "could of course keep the one I had." WHAT? There was no refund! Were they suggesting my mother was meant to fork out £60 for them to screw up the item, and then hand it back to them while they kept her cash - sounds like Two Left Feet.

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ToiletRollCover · 18/02/2009 18:03

Have you tried contacting the head office of the franchise in question? They might be able to sort something out. Maybe pass it on to a different branch of the franchise?

Qally · 18/02/2009 18:07

JL spoke to their head office, sadly, though thanks for the suggestion.

I know it's a bit pfb of me to care so much - but the thing is, it's a sentimental keepsake. Their entire business model relies on people caring this much.

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ToiletRollCover · 18/02/2009 18:13

I don't think it's pfb. If you pay for any service you expect what you pay for! Hope you sort this out!

ToiletRollCover · 18/02/2009 18:22

Have had another idea. Can you or someone a bit arty take a cast of the cast? With some plaster of paris or that stuff they sell in art shops?

ilovemydogandMrObama · 18/02/2009 18:26

Mistakes can be made, but it's really their response that's so disappointing.

Shame as I was planning to book another visit.

Not after this.

(send them a copy of this thread...)

mileniwmffalcon · 18/02/2009 18:33

i completely understand your disappointment with their customer service, very disappointing.

what is the cast made of? if you want to rescue the one you have you could try re-glazing with something like this you can buy in art shops.

mileniwmffalcon · 18/02/2009 18:34

sorry, that link takes you to the main page try this one

mileniwmffalcon · 18/02/2009 18:35

lol that'll teach me to keep posting without previewing third time lucky?

Qally · 18/02/2009 22:03

Thanks so much for the suggestions, I appreciate the thought. Unfortunately you can't take a cast, because it's been glazed over a lot more in the indent of the imprints, to emphasise them, so the mould would be vague. And I don't think you could glaze over it in another colour, because the existing one would make anything else sort of muddy, I think? It's just bog standard clay, but it's a muddy sort of glaze - not clear. I do appreciate the thought, though.

I also appreciate people not thinking I was being precious. I was just so very gutted. ilovemydogandMrObama - as you say, it isn't the original screw-up I find aggravating, because God knows I make enough of those myself and accidents happen. It's the attitude since. And various other Mums I know locally were interested until this happened, plus we wanted to get another done for his other Granny and for his 1st birthday for my mother, so they're shooting themselves in the foot, business-wise. It's hardly great PR, is it?

If anyone can recommend a GOOD company to get this redone with, I'd be really grateful.

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kidcreoleandthecoconuts · 18/02/2009 22:26

Qally... I really sympathise with you and dont think you're being precious at all.

I had my DS's hand and footprint done at John Lewis when he was just 5 days old. It was a present to us from my grandad who sadly died weeks later. When I went to pick it up they had written ' 3 days old' instead of '5 days old'. I was gutted. Ok, it was only a couple of days difference but it wasnt correct and it was an expensive thing to have done. The lady from John Lewis thought that nothing could be done and offered to reduce it by £10 ( it cost £60). I wasnt happy with this as the product was incorrect...they had written 5 days on order form. In the end the company agreed to try and change the writing..which luckily they were able to do. But I had to wait weeks and weeks to resolve it and several trips to John Lewis.

I hope you get something sorted out.

EntersStageLeft · 18/02/2009 22:29

You usually get a copy of the order form which you are asked to sign after having checked all the details ie name, age, colour are correct.

What does yours say?

Qally · 18/02/2009 23:37

Entersstageleft (great name, btw!) my mother signed it (it was an Xmas gift from her) and doesn't think she checked it, as we were holding the next people up. (The odd thing is that violet isn't pink or grey, it's a blue, and 'violet' is the colour written on the form, so I have no idea if that's the nasty colour or the correct one. I'm quite temped to pop to JL when they next have the sessions, just to check out the sample boards.) I do appreciate that to that extent, if violet is what we got, it's not their cock-up. But writing down a colour your client specifically says they hate, when it's a pinky one and it's a little boy... it's not much cop. Even if the client doesn't pick it up at signature, it still shouldn't happen. And the company concerned should definitely not be dismissive when the customer complains. An apology would have gone a long way.

kidcreoleandthecocnuts, I'm really sorry you had problems when you really hadn't had any chance to stop it. That's appalling. Hardly fills me with confidence that they don't do this sort of thing more often, and then expect people just to wear it. And the worst part is, something like this isn't replaceable. You can't go back in time and get it redone - especially given the sentimental value yours had because of the giver. I'm so glad they could fix it for you.

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EntersStageLeft · 19/02/2009 20:27

I must admit I'm slightly lost as to which colour you liked and which you hated but according to the imprints website it loks as though violet is the greyish colour.

If it says violet on your receipt and violet is what you got then I don't quite understand how JL agreed it was a blatent mistake. It's up to you to check the details are correct, if you rushed that's your (or your mum's) fault. Just because you clearly wouldn't doesn't mean other people might not choose that colour for a boy, it's not up to the assistant to comment on your colour choice ("god, are sure you want that colour? For a boy? Christ you're a weird one").

Anyway I'm not trying to tell you shouldn't be upset, if what you got wasn't what you expected then naturally you're upset. It just doesn't seem obvious they've done anything wrong and it does seem quite magnanamous of them to let you keep it for free.

Qally · 19/02/2009 21:11

Entersstageleft, they didn't let us keep it for free. They didn't offer any refund, offer of redoing it or anything at all. We paid full price, and their reaction to our complaint was that they would allow us to keep what we'd paid for. And I totally disagree that it's okay for a company to screw up and take no responsibility.

BUT - I still love you, because I didn't know that website existed... and we definitely ordered the right colour. We have crimson or terracotta, I think (hard to tell from an image that size), NOT violet. So I'm going in tomorrow to raise hell - bad enough to screw up and admit it, but to screw up, and try to blame the client and swear blind the colour was correct? Sod that.

Problem is, my son is not 9 weeks any more, and I want a refund, because I am damned if I am letting them make a penny from us after this. But thank you so much for the link - proved they were 100% wrong all across the line.

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EntersStageLeft · 19/02/2009 21:23

Ah I see about the not getting it for free etc, sorry.

But that they were insisting the crimson/terracotta you got was violet. Let us know how you get on tomorrow and I'm glad to have been of service

You know there are many other companies doing similar things? He won't be 9 weeks anymore, but when you're looking back in 20, 30, 50 years time a few weeks or even months won't matter. Make sure you get some kind of similar momento, I always quite liked the look of these ones (make sure to see the glass ones too)

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