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First time mum needs help choosing a push chair

33 replies

ABQ · 20/04/2008 10:43

Hi,

I have a budget of around £500 for the pushchair and carseat. I went to a nursery store around here and narrowed it down to the Bugaboo Bee and the Jane Carrera. Then I went online to research them and neither had good reviews.

Criteria I'm looking for --

  • Light weight - for public transport and getting in and out of car
  • Fold up easily - we live in a flat and need to be able to get it out of the way when at home
  • Safe, easy to use car seat
  • Be able to have the infant face you when in the push chair

Questions -
Do I need a travel system?
Not planning on a carry cot - that ok?
Am I missing key criteria?
What would you get given budget?
What would you get if there was no budget?

I have MIL sending me pushchair reviews on a daily basis and reminding me daily that I need to order one soon. I'd really like to get this out of the way, so all help really, really appreciated!!!

THANKS

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youngbutnotdumb · 20/04/2008 10:58

Hey there I think that travel systems are a great idea if you are needing a carseat but don't really look comfy when poor wee babes are srunched up in them all day. I think your best bet would be a mamas and papas pilko pramette. You might have seen it already. It doesn't have a carrycot but it has a seat pad which allows baby to lay flat facing you, as well as being a onehand umberella fold. And the best thing is it looks really sturdy will have a look at prices but you can buy a carseat too if you wanted one for the pushchair but if not I have a Britax one wich is suitable from birth to 4 years doesnt have a carry handle as is rearward and forward facing so is quite large it cost £130.

youngbutnotdumb · 20/04/2008 11:15

Thought of another one. There is a pram that my friend has I think it's called Ozon sportivo its by mamas and papas and that has a soft liner too so baby can face you. Itsone hand fold but is a push bar not umberella handles. It is available from argos at £250 it is really nice and quite compact folding. The car seat I have is A Britax Eclipse its £129.99 from argos.co.uk too. It does seem expensive but saves on the long run because you dont have to buy another for about 3/4 years. I haven't had any problems with it although I bought a seprate head hugger for it when DS was a baby. He's 22 months now. Hope this helps a bit.

dizzydixies · 20/04/2008 11:17

have you considered a silvercross one, they get very good reviews?

I had a lie flat carrycot thing for both of mine but thats because I wanted them to sleep lying flat from birth

silvercross linear

MotherofUBERboys · 20/04/2008 11:21

safest car seat on the market, and which clicks onto a fixed isofix base in the car, so no faffing with seatbelts while you stand in the rain and a secure reliable fit.

and a maclaren somethingorother, suitable from birth (lies flat or near enough). it is what you will end up buying anyway, so why not skip the distractions and get straight to it?

maclarens are light and easy to fold with one hand (public transport). fold small and light for carrying/lifting. are narrow and easy to push/maneauvre through busy streets/doorways/shop aisles and with one hand or two.

trust me. i had 3 kids in 3 years, i did a LOT of research and pining after this or that uberpram and this is what i would do if i had a baby tomorrow.

(you can lovely little snuggle things to put them in and lift the whole thing from carseat toi pram when necc. the actual number of times you need to click them from car to buggy and back to car without touching them is so miniscule, the downsides of the 'systems' are not worth it imo.)

TheBlonde · 20/04/2008 11:23

Buy a car seat that fits your car

Don't buy a travel system

Get over the baby facing you thing and buy a maclaren techno

Spend the £250 you save on something else!

MotherofUBERboys · 20/04/2008 11:24

maclaren techno xt

MotherofUBERboys · 20/04/2008 11:26

cant log onto the Which? site to find out current safest infant car seat on market... but do some research.

MrsBadger · 20/04/2008 11:44

carseat that fits car plus a Techno
OR if you can't get over the rear facing thing consider the Silver Cross Dazzle / M&P Pramette / Graco Cleo

ScoobyDoo · 20/04/2008 11:47

I agree about don't waste your money, with both of mine children i spent loads on a first big pushchair after 6 months with ds i brought a maclaren vogue then after 4 months with dd i brought a maclaren xt, you will end up with a stroller in the end!

edam · 20/04/2008 11:54

Thing is, you can tell a first-time p/g woman till you are blue in the face that travel systems are a waste of time and what you need is a safe car seat plus a buggy but generally they will go out and buy a travel system anyway. It's some kind of hold advertisers have over people who are confused by making 1001 decisions about stuff they have never had to think about before.

ABQ, just in case you are prepared to go against the grain, I endorse the advice to choose a car seat that does well on Which? safety tests and buy a buggy suitable from birth. (W? crash test more rigorously than manufacturers, do side impact as well as front-impact and at 40mph - companies only do 30.)

And here are the most recent W? best buys for newborns:

Best Buys
Maxi Cosi Cabriofix with Easyfix base
Price: £200
Score: 82%

Our testing has become even tougher since we made this a Best Buy in 2006, but it still passed with flying colours ? achieving our first 'Excellent' child seat result.

Crash protection is excellent, and the instructions are clear.

Britax Cosytot Isofix
Price: £200
Score: 79%

The Best Buy Britax Cosytot Isofix was the first seat for newborns to use Isofix mounting system. It's easy to install and offers excellent stability ? protecting children well in front and side crashes.

Designed for babies from birth to about a year (13kg), this rearward-facing seat uses a support leg that rests on the car floor rather than a strap for the third mounting point. The support leg needs a flat, solid floor, so it won't suit all cars ? always refer to the manufacturer's guidelines before buying.

Recaro Young Profi Plus with base
Price: £170
Score: 78%

This Recaro seat is designed for babies from birth to about a year (13kg) in rear-facing modes. It offers great protection in Isofix mode, although it's not as safe when used with the adult seat belt.

It comes with a base which is secured using the Isofix mounts, and has a support leg that rests on the car floor rather than a strap for the third mounting point. The support leg needs a flat, solid floor, so it won't suit all cars ? always refer to the manufacturer's guidelines before buying.

Britax Evolva 2/3 ISOFIT
Price: £130
Score: 77%

This Best Buy seat from Britax did well in our tests, with a 'Good' overall crash safety rating. It's very similar to the Ultra model, but unusually for a seat in this group, the Evolva 2/3 uses Isofix.

Although the Isofix mounting for the base doesn't actually improve safety, it's more convenient to use than the Ultra version, which isn't held to the car except when the belted child sits in it.

edam · 20/04/2008 11:54

Sorry, ignore last one, it's not from birth. But first few are.

anchovies · 20/04/2008 12:00

If I were to start again I would also get a maclaren techno xt and spend the extra on a good carseat with an isofix base (maxicosi cabriofix is the current which best buy rated excellent at 82%, britax cositot isofix is next at 79%)

anchovies · 20/04/2008 12:00

sorry about cross post on carseat info!

LookattheLottie · 20/04/2008 12:11

Bugaboo Cameleon will do everything you need it too, but they are pricey.

Silvercroos 3D are quite good. I had one for dd but they're not as lite as you'd think, and you don't get much use out of the pram mode.

Loola I've heard mixed reviews about.

Quinny Buzz again, I've heard mixed things.

Is it for a newborn, or an older baby though?

ABQ · 20/04/2008 12:12

Thanks everyone. I'm not sold on a travel system - hence the questions asking if worthwhile.

I think I saw the MacLaren Techno at the store. It was very big and hard to fold up. Maybe I was looking at another MacLaren...

I've taken out a month trial of Which? and will have a look through there for car seats.

With an isofix base, can you click different car seats into it? So as dc gets bigger, you just need to replace the seat on not the base, too?

What's best for long term?

And other than a rain cover, what accessories do I need?

Oh, and is a big Mothercare the best place to see the most pushchairs and carseats at one go?

OP posts:
hoxtonchick · 20/04/2008 12:13

get a mountain buggy urban & a decent car seat. bingo.

LookattheLottie · 20/04/2008 12:14

If it is for an older baby, then like others have said, go for a maclaren pushchair and a maxi cosi car seat

meep · 20/04/2008 12:25

My friend got this dazzle - it has a carrycot/baby nest for a newborn that can also be used as a bed and I think it can be fitted so your newborn faces you.

I have a maxicosi seat with an isofix base - I don't think it is compatable with other car seats? Also - when you move up to teh next size seat you can't uset he same base. I found it greatthough as you can just click the seat in and out of the car without the faff of seatbelts - and it feels really secure. Dd 9.5mo is still in it. When she was newborn I could just carry the car seat up the stairs to out flat and leave our pram in the boot of the car (where it lives most days) so you may not need to worry about a pram that fits your house?

I think the bee might be good - it has a baby nest for your newborn facing you, is lightweight and folds flat?

The raincover is the only accesory that I use a lot - and if I'm lucky, a sun shade - and some toys to keep your wee one amused

MrsMattie · 20/04/2008 12:29

My opinion, fwiw

DO NOT GET THE JANE CARRERA!!!!

It's NOT lightweight. It DOESN'T fold easily. If you get the carrycot style lie-flat carseat, in my opinion, it ISN'T safe and doesn't feel secure. It's clunky and horrible and God forbid you have a c-section or a bad back or any ailment, because it is a bugger to attach and unattach the carseat to and from the chassis. I absolutely HATED mine, and was using a lightweight McClaren within 3 months. I have heard good things about the M&P Pliko Pramette. personally, I am a big fan of the McClaren Techno, but appreciate it isn't very shiny and soopa doopa and 'sexy' for first time mums!

EffiePerine · 20/04/2008 12:31

I like the Pliko pramette because a) baby could face me and b) it lies flat (am not happy with newborn in reclining pushchair or car seat for any length of time). We've gone back to using it for our toddler and it still works!

Plus it's light and you can fold it one-handed.

bitofadramaqueen · 20/04/2008 12:38

I dont know if the bugaboo bee is still on your shortlist but there was a thread a while ago about it which you might find useful if you haven't already read it here.

sweetkitty · 20/04/2008 12:42

You will probably do what the rest of us do buy a huge big travel system then decide a month down the line it is too big and buy a Maclaren anyway.

hippipotami · 20/04/2008 12:54

The click-in base is only for the first stage carseat (the carseat you take out of the car with baby in it)
Subsequent carseats stay fixed in the car at all times, and you take the baby/child out of them.

I bought a travel system and changed to a Maclaren after 10 months with ds and 6 months with dd.

If I were to ever have another baby, I would buy a decent carseat (Maxicosi Cabrio) and then a Maclaren Techno if I lived in the town and did mainly town/urban walking, or a Mountain Buggy Urban if I also went into the woods/beach/towpath a lot.

ABQ · 20/04/2008 14:30

I feel much better about things now. Thanks!

Next step is a trip to Mothercare or John Lewis with poor DH in tow.

Which store would you recommend for best selection? I'm in London.

I'll probably buy online, so price isn't as important as selection.

Thank you all again.

Oh - and any advice on where to get cheap mat clothes? I'm rapidly growing out of everything I bought on my last trip to the US and have another 10 weeks to go!

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MrsBadger · 20/04/2008 14:57

H&M for clothes

Peter Jones at Sloane Sq has the best shoppign experience but not the best range