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Less miles vs less years

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SquirtleSquad · 18/02/2021 09:35

I need to decide between two cars.
They are the same make and model. One is newer with more miles and the other slightly older with less miles.

Car A) is 2014 and done 50,000 miles, a private sale from someone's house. MOT done in November. Full service history. Less "extras"

Car B) is 2016 and has done 63,000 miles, a dealership sale with 12 months AA breakdown and 3 month warranty. MOT done in September - 2 tyres were advisories which the dealership will replace. Ex family lease car, main dealer serviced and MOTd. More "extras" and prefer the colour.

Any advice would be really appreciated!

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TomHardyAndMe · 18/02/2021 09:36

Petrol or diesel?

I’m leaning towards the second. Low mileage is not good for most cars.

SquirtleSquad · 18/02/2021 09:37

Both diesel 1.6 Smile

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TomHardyAndMe · 18/02/2021 09:40

Any indication whether they’ve been used for short journeys or longer motorway runs?

Short journeys are a killer for DPFs which can be an expensive issue.

SquirtleSquad · 18/02/2021 09:45

Car A has been used for school runs, a few camping trips and days out, no idea about car B.

I'm definitely leaning towards car B.

The price difference is £1k - car B being more expensive.

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FTEngineerM · 18/02/2021 09:54

B 100% Diesel engines will last for a looong time. 63k is nicely worn in.

I don’t know the brands you’re talking about but look at the diesel bmws on autotrader that are 200k+ They last A LONG time with the right care.

EvilPea · 18/02/2021 09:57

B. It’s just been tested more.if they are DPF models low mileage is a huge problem in diesels.

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 10:01

B, although its a 6 month warranty regardless of what they say. If you pay for A and it goes wrong you have no comeback. Do you need a diesel, they are very expensive when they go wrong.

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 10:03

@FTEngineerM

B 100% Diesel engines will last for a looong time. 63k is nicely worn in.

I don’t know the brands you’re talking about but look at the diesel bmws on autotrader that are 200k+ They last A LONG time with the right care.

Unfortunately without the right care they are money pits and repeated lockdowns have not helped.
Scoleah · 18/02/2021 10:34

Car B, mileage isn't that much more & you'll have the back up of warranty etc too

BikeRunSki · 18/02/2021 10:38

B - the additional mileage is about equal to a year or 2's use, but both cars are old enough that the warranty might be handy.

BikeRunSki · 18/02/2021 10:39

Ive just realised that I have said exactly what @Scoleah said.

SquirtleSquad · 18/02/2021 14:07

Thank you so much. Been to see both this afternoon and B is definitely my front runner.

Really appreciate your advice and thoughts, thank you Star

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emmetgirl · 18/02/2021 14:14

Fewer.

Elai1978 · 18/02/2021 18:09

B, although its a 6 month warranty regardless of what they say.

Not true, I think you are getting mixed up with the Consumer Rights Act. A dealer has no obligation to offer any kind of warranty whatsoever.

I’d take B as well OP. The mileage is low enough not to be a concern. Biggest concern would be the DPF as other posters have mentioned.

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 18:16

@Elai1978

B, although its a 6 month warranty regardless of what they say.

Not true, I think you are getting mixed up with the Consumer Rights Act. A dealer has no obligation to offer any kind of warranty whatsoever.

I’d take B as well OP. The mileage is low enough not to be a concern. Biggest concern would be the DPF as other posters have mentioned.

Excuse me but you are talking bollocks. Used cars are covered by the sale of goods act. This means that the burden of proof lies with the business seller for the first six months, and its nearly impossible to prove that a fault that occurs within the first six months wasn't there when the car was sold. The dealer does not have to offer any warranty but they are still covered by the SoGA. The small claims court always sides with the consumer in the first 6 months which you'd know if you ran a garage.
Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 18:18

And if you had a dpf fault within 6 months the garage would have to sort it or refund. After 6 months if you could prove the dealer knew (unlikely but if you have service history that mentions a dpf fault) then you can still make them pay.

Elai1978 · 18/02/2021 18:24

Excuse me but you are talking bollocks. Used cars are covered by the sale of goods act. This means that the burden of proof lies with the business seller for the first six months, and its nearly impossible to prove that a fault that occurs within the first six months wasn't there when the car was sold. The dealer does not have to offer any warranty but they are still covered by the SoGA. The small claims court always sides with the consumer in the first 6 months which you'd know if you ran a garage.

The only bollocks here is coming from you! The SoGA hasn’t existed since 2015 - you must be a terrible garage if you don’t know that! It was replaced by the Consumer Rights Act 2015 as I previously stated and is completely separate from any warranty offered. I stated that the CRA applies but there’s no obligation to offer any kind of warranty - please clarify exactly where I’m talking bollocks?

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 18:33

Old language but the reality is the same. You don't have to offer a warranty but a business is still liable for 6 months. Tbh I don't understand why you are trying to dilute it. This is singularly for the benefit of the op/buyer. Dealers offer 3 months warranty on the hope that the buyer won't comes knocking in month 4 if the car develops a problem, consumers think the warranty over rides their statutory rights. It doesn't. I've paid out thousands as a dealer and I've also recouped thousands by telling buyers what they are eligible to claim.

Elai1978 · 18/02/2021 18:36

And yet you incorrectly stated that the dealer has to offer a 6 month warranty. Still waiting for you to point out exactly what bollocks I’m talking.

lljkk · 18/02/2021 18:40

ahem, tiptoe around people rowing...

50k is hardly different from 63k. 50k isn't actually 'low'. My car is 2011 and has mileage < 50k. That might be 'low'.

I'd go for the 2016 car coz it's newer.

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 18:43

@Elai1978

And yet you incorrectly stated that the dealer has to offer a 6 month warranty. Still waiting for you to point out exactly what bollocks I’m talking.
Think what you like. Semantics, call it a warranty or a rabbit.

Op buy from dealer. If you have any issues within the first six months and the dealer won't sort PM me and I will help

Elai1978 · 18/02/2021 18:47

It’s not semantics. The CRA is NOT a warranty. Might be worth updating yourself on the current legislation as well, if I dealt with someone who referred to SoGA as if it were still current I’d assume they hadn’t got a clue.

Sprig1 · 18/02/2021 18:50

B, definitely. It's barely broken in with that mileage.

Essentialgarage · 18/02/2021 18:52

@Elai1978

It’s not semantics. The CRA is NOT a warranty. Might be worth updating yourself on the current legislation as well, if I dealt with someone who referred to SoGA as if it were still current I’d assume they hadn’t got a clue.
Or you'd assume that they were a garage that took their responsibility as a dealer seriously and looked after their customers. Funnily enough no one has complained when I've rectified a fault or helped them make another dealer pay for the issues. But tbh, I'd rather you keep up with your frankly odd views on buyers rights as it will save me money.
SquirtleSquad · 18/02/2021 20:16

Thanks again for all of the posts, especially helpful regarding the DPF.

I've put down the deposit this evening on car B and collect on Tuesday. They're going to give it a new MOT, replace two tyres that were advisories on the previous MOT and hadn't been replaced.

Really impressed with the dealer and he has said (and confirmed by email) that I'd be eligible to bring it back within 6 months with any issues.

Thank you again to everyone who has taken the time to help.

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