Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Shopping

From everyday essentials to big purchases, swap tips and recommendations. For the best deals without the hassle, sign up for Mumsnet Moneysaver emails.

Ford Focus, BMW 118i or Hyundai i30 (or others) - help!

45 replies

car342020 · 01/07/2020 18:47

I'm 8 months' pregnant with my first child and our existing car has just died on us and so we are looking to buy something new and relatively easily/quickly...

We don't have much experience in cars but think our criteria are:

  • Buy 2-3 year-old second hand car, rather than lease - more cost effective in the long term
  • Up to about 12,000 miles per year previous usage
  • Petrol preferable to diesel
  • Happy with manual or automatic
  • Want decent boot space for pram etc
  • Something reliable as main family car - mainly suburban driving to supermarket etc with weekend motorway driving/trips.
  • Budget 10-12k

We've narrowed down to these three from an online search:
www.cargiant.co.uk/car/ford/focus/BD67OJJ
www.cargiant.co.uk/car/bmw/118i/VO17NFD
www.cazoo.co.uk/used-car/98f7e113-8ff8-5521-b922-8aa15b5707ec/

For those who know cars/car specs - any obvious ranking of those three, or anything else we should be considering?

Thanks

OP posts:
LouiseTrees · 01/07/2020 21:25

Seat Ateca has a great boot and as part of the VW family is very dependable. Not sure that they are not higher than budget though

FartingInTheFence · 02/07/2020 05:04

@LouiseTrees

Seat Ateca has a great boot and as part of the VW family is very dependable. Not sure that they are not higher than budget though
VW dependable?

No they arent.

They are however, fucking shit.

MooseBeTimeForSummer · 02/07/2020 05:26

I was going to suggest an early Volvo XC40 but you won’t find one in that budget.

car342020 · 02/07/2020 06:42

Any feedback on the three we have found which are in budget?

OP posts:
FartingInTheFence · 02/07/2020 10:17

I'd avoid the BMW for obvious reasons - its German and unreliable for a start.

The Hyundai is deffo overpriced. Ford: Fix Or Repair Daily. Avoid.

Have you looked at a Civic or Auris?

car342020 · 02/07/2020 10:29

No, but will add to list and research now. Thanks!

OP posts:
Lonelycrab · 02/07/2020 10:57

Civic here, very happy. You’d get a very low mileage mk9 for less than that. Prefer it to the focus I had before and much better reliability. Was also looking at 118s and glad I went with the Honda- don’t think you’d get two mountain bikes in the back of the bmw with wheels on.

opinionatedfreak · 02/07/2020 11:03

Repairs for 118 will be expensive. I’d avoid. The boot is also quite small.

I had a reliable but dull focus for a while and loved the heated front windscreen... rest of the car was a bit meh. Boot was a decent size. Just make sure it has isofix, it was a no cost option for a while at Ford and mine didn’t have it which was effing annoying as at that point lots of my friends had small kids and no cars and it would have been much quicker to get their car seats in and out on day trips.

My friend likes her trouble free Hyundai.

FartingInTheFence · 02/07/2020 11:03

Agree with the Civic.

Bigger and infinitely more reliable than the three you have noted at the top OP.

And a million times better than them all, in fact!

CRbear · 02/07/2020 11:08

I thought it a bmw 1 series as soon as I read your post. I have one. Same sort of age. It has been superb. Generous boot space and super flexible to as seats can be folded flat really easily. Low cost to run includin £0 tax even though it’s diesel. I’m thrilled with it. And buying under three years old and getting an end of warranty check is so handy as you can get any little niggles ironed out.

Noneyerbuisness11234 · 02/07/2020 11:23

Hi op I've owned all 3
The bmw although beautiful car parts cost a fortune if anything goes wrong on them and believe me having 2 they do go wrong

The xi35 is a beautiful drive although a jeep style car boot is narrow

The focus a great car reliable parts are not too dear and has a massive boot so out of the 3 this would be my preference good luck with new car wat ever u choose

GracieLouFreebushh · 02/07/2020 11:24

Loved our focus!! Really reliable and roomy.

MobLife · 02/07/2020 11:29

Ford Focus would be my choice out of those-they're great cars and the proportions are reasonable
Loved my old focus and drove it in to the ground!

I've since got a Skoda Octavia and I really rate it-they score well for reliability despite being part of the much maligned VW group

DonaldJTrumpet · 02/07/2020 11:37

I have a 118. It leaves a lot to be desired in terms of space. It is the least economical car I have ever driven and even motorway driving won't get you more than 38mpg. Also, as with all premium brands you don't get a lot in terms of options unless you pay for it (or the person before you did)

Ford are cheap and plastic on the inside but well kitted out. Reasonably reliable but nothing on something Japanese or Korean. (Or my personal favourite, the Germans!) I wouldn't have one unless I had to but horses for courses.

Hyundai are good, reliable and even more kitted out as standard. What about a Kia ceed? Same car but a bit more attractive? Kia Optima is a beautiful bigger car.

Personally I think they are a bit small and you would be better off with a 318/mondeo/i40.

FartingInTheFence · 02/07/2020 11:39

I've since got a Skoda Octavia and I really rate it-they score well for reliability despite being part of the much maligned VW group

See the video link I posted earlier.

Skoda dont score well at all. VW score even worse.

Both are shit and theres no escaping that reality.

PhilipJennings · 02/07/2020 11:49

I had a focus for 8 years, one of the ubiquitous pale blue ones from the mid 2000s. It was super reliable and low maintenance costs.

Agree with what everyone says about the generous boot space, we eventually went to upgrade to an SUV for longer trips as we drive to Ireland a lot. DH had wanted a Qashqai until we rented one on holiday and found we couldn't fit our suitcases and pram into it - but we'd had no trouble getting them to the airport in our focus that morning!

Also I found it really easy to park.

MobLife · 02/07/2020 11:55

@FartingInTheFence
I think actually if you look across a range of sources and sites you'll find that the Octavia specifically is pretty well regarded and a solid choice, especially for families and taking into account other factors as well as reliability

Granted though there will always be snags as there are with all makes and models, and as I said the VW group have seen their fair share of problems

EnglishRain · 02/07/2020 12:36

I'd go for the focus. I've got a new one and am also due very soon. I had a fiesta before and they're easy to fix, reliable, sell on well etc. My fiesta is now our second car, I've had it six years now. I don't rate BMWs based on the sheer number of people I know who have shelled out horrific amounts in repairs. I really don't like the one series either. I think the Hyundai looks grim and I wouldn't be able to move past that to consider owning it, sorry!

EnglishRain · 02/07/2020 12:38

Also, we have a huge Joie i-spin 360 car seat which is in the car ready, and there is still plenty of space for the front passenger (I'm 5'9). Boot space is also ample, but the car itself isn't insanely big, still comfortable to reverse park next to other cars in a supermarket etc.

FartingInTheFence · 02/07/2020 12:50

@MobLife

Genuinely suggest you watch the video I linked.

Japanese cars are superior for a reason.

redwoodmazza · 02/07/2020 13:00

I had my first Civic in 1974!!!!! It's a fantastic car. I still drive a Honda today. They are very reliable.

DonaldJTrumpet · 02/07/2020 13:03

@MobLife you won't change @FartingInTheFence's mind!!!! Grin

TheFairyCaravan · 02/07/2020 13:21

We've got a BMW 220 Active Tourer, I'd have a look at that rather than the 118i. It's an absolutely beautiful car to drive, has a big boot (I can fit my wheelchair and a suitcase in) and as it's higher up you won't break your back putting the baby in.

RaspberryToupee · 02/07/2020 13:42

@FartingInTheFence the video references data collected on vehicles over 9 years old but no mention of mileage. Most of the vehicles in the bottom of the table are typically used as company cars or used by people who do a lot of commuting and typically generating lots of mileage. I don’t think a Fiat 500 is generally doing the same mileage as VW Passat. So, I would hope that a 9 year old Fiat 500 with 80,000 miles on the clock would break down less than a 9 year VW Passat with 180,000 miles on the clock.

OP - we had the exact same criteria as you and we went for a Scoda Octavia estate. I’ve had a Ford Focus (and fiesta) and loved it. I really like Ford, they’re quite cheap to run, easy to maintain and you can take them to 90% of garages and they can be fixed. I thought the focus was a great size and a fantastic run around. I personally don’t like the style of the new focus, I think they look a bit weird and it massively puts me off. Surprisingly, considering it’s smaller than the Octavia Estate, the focus had a lot more blind spots than our Octavia. I would buy another (if they come out with a style I like).

Anecdotally - we have had 2x fords, 1x VW, 1x Kia and 1x Skoda. Based on all factors - how easy they were to repair, how frequent they broke down, how easy they were to drive, size. I would rank them as Skoda, fiesta (which was about 10 years old when I got it), focus, VW and then the Kia. We bought our Kia at 4 years old, sold it when it was 8 and it had electrical problems in both front windows pretty much throughout the time we owned it. These weren’t covered by Kia’s 7 year warranty - one of the main selling points for us getting that car. It was also a nightmare to get bodywork done on it. But ‘Japanese cars are superior’ Hmm I did like the dual climate control in the Kia though but our Skoda now has that!