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Table top outdoor heaters...anyone got one or can recommend?

28 replies

Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:22

Im trying to read as much as poss about these things; thought about getting a mighty big one, but then thought a table top might be just as good. Obviously the smaller you get, the less output and radious of heat you get, but still.... anyone got a good one they can recommend? (gonna post elsewhere too btw) xx

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SoupDragon · 25/04/2007 15:34

They are absolutely sh*te for the environment.

Lilymaid · 25/04/2007 15:35

Try wearing an extra layer instead!

oliveoil · 25/04/2007 15:35

oh I have just posted on your other one

I repeat:

maybe just put a jumper on?

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:35

are they? why? what other alternatives are there - other than a blimmin fleece?

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sweetheart · 25/04/2007 15:37

ohhhh get a chimnea instead - they are much better and you can use them all year round for burning stuff.

nickytwotimes · 25/04/2007 15:37

heating fresh air?
are you mad?

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:38

yes, we did think about a chimi whats-it last year, but we have decking. and LO's so have to have something can put on a table. would love a chimi whotsit tbh

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:39

fresh air gets cold.

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twocatsonthebed · 25/04/2007 15:40

I second soupdragon, they're really environmentally unfriendly. If it's warm enough to sit outside, great, if not, go inside...

twocatsonthebed · 25/04/2007 15:42

Estimates vary as to just how damaging the heaters are to the environment, but they are very energy intensive.

According to the Energy Savings Trust a propane-fuelled heater with an output of 12.5kw will produce about 34.9kg of carbon dioxide before the fuel runs out after about 13 hours.

This is the equivalent to the amount of energy used to make approximately 5,200 cups of tea, or 400 cups for every hour the heater is running.

Research by the Market Transformation Programme (MTP), which supports the development and implementation of UK government policy on sustainable products, suggested the domestic patio heaters already sold could produce a total of 140,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide a year.

Wyevale said it would be offering greener alternatives for customers wanting outdoor heating, including recycled wood burning stoves.

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:42

but why so unfriendly? dont make me go look em up on internet, tell me! whats the diff with the heat output from one of those to any other building, heat device, car exhaust etc - huh? I like to do my bit, but do need to know.

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Katymac · 25/04/2007 15:42

I guess you have insulation in your roof Wolfgirl?

That's to keep the heat in your house - if you want to heat outside open all the doors and windows in your house and heat the air that way......oh hang on that ywould make your heating bills really high wouldn't it....maybe it's not that a good idea to heat the outdoors

oliveoil · 25/04/2007 15:43

they are unnecessary though

really truly

if cold put a jumper on

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:44

DOH! our threads must have crossed, OK thats better, now I know/undertand. maybe a chiminea then, but how to get around it being on decking and away from LO's - feel like Im coming across a bit thick today

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twocatsonthebed · 25/04/2007 15:44

The main difference is, that you don't need to use one, not ever. If it's too cold, you can go inside.

The background to the info I posted is that one of the biggest chains of garden centres has just stopped selling them (despite the fact that they could sell loads) because they are just such environmental obscenities.

TeeCee · 25/04/2007 15:45

oh well, sorry, but I love our table top heater. It means we can sit round the table after being in the garden all day until whenever I like. A fleece is one thing but being toasty warm under a table top heater is another. Hadn't thought about the environment before I have to say but I'm going to bury my head in the sand about it cos I love being warm and being in my garden all night too much! Sorry!

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Wolfgirl · 25/04/2007 15:46

OK OK I hear ya awrl! blimmey....never knew folk had such opposing feelings to P.H's. Thanks for telling me anyway. will re-think things. bye for now.xx

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TeeCee · 25/04/2007 15:50

I wish you hadn't started this thread ether now wolfgirl! How will I sit under it guilt free from now on?

SoupDragon · 25/04/2007 15:51

Er, Teecee, wasn't it you who said An inconvenient Truth was a must see film...?

TeeCee · 25/04/2007 15:55

yeeeeessss, it waaaas! oh bollocky bollocks is all I can say. I hadn't thought about it damaging the environment before and now I hate you all!

TeeCee · 25/04/2007 15:56
SoupDragon · 25/04/2007 15:56
TeeCee · 25/04/2007 15:57

piss off!

SoupDragon · 25/04/2007 15:57

One of the big DIY stores has (I think) stopped selling them because of their environmental impact.

SoupDragon · 25/04/2007 15:57

Oooh, charming!