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Buying from the US - import duties - how do I do it???

17 replies

scoobysnax · 05/02/2004 17:30

I know that someone will be able to help me out on this one....

Since the exchange rate is so good, I want to buy some clothes online from the US and have them mailed back to me here in the UK. I understand that I will have to pay import duties though.

My question is, how can I find out how much I will have to pay, and how is it paid - will I have to pay the postman when it arrives or is it a bit more complicated than that?

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SoupDragon · 05/02/2004 17:57

I believe you have to pay at the collection office at the PO. I've had to pay this and was left a card by the postman saying I had to collect the parcel as there was an amount to pay.

I can't help you with the amount I'm afraid - is it just VAT?

GenT · 05/02/2004 17:57

Someone else had mentioned if it is over £14 they will charge duty, not sure on that.

You will have to pay the postman or whoever delivers the package. I once paid Parcel Force.

I also once got a parcel that was stamped duty to be collected and the postman never collected any, I didn't remind him the following day either.

It also depends on the size of the package. Somethings seems to slip by and are able to go through the letter box and others they catch you.

I ordered something once and the first time it was dispatched a slower method. The repeat order arrived by airpost. I got it and wasn't charged anything but the first one came and duty was pending.

It may all be boiled down to luck. But consider you will have to pay VAT so include that in the cost of the goods and ask, is it really worth it. Do you know anyone coming over????

JJ · 05/02/2004 17:58

Scoobysnax, the postman always asked me for money when he came. I think it was the VAT 17.5% ?? It was quite a bit, but only kicked in over a certain amount. I still ordered stuff, though.

Not entirely helpful, I know.

scoobysnax · 05/02/2004 18:12

It's kids clothes I want to buy - I am hoping they are VAT free?
I am having difficulty finding out how much duty is payable on the net but wonder if it might be around 12%?

Thanks everyone for the help so far - very useful!
Sadly I have no contacts to bring things over for me!

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august24 · 05/02/2004 18:20

Do you know anyone in the US who can send them. I know this is unethical(well depending on who you are!) If you have the stuff sent to a friend or relative and then have them send it to you as a gift you avoid vat.

squirmyworm · 05/02/2004 18:22

I read somewhere that it's really random and that they don't always charge it by any means. As an optimist I'd be inclined to take a chance and hope I got lucky. I think they mentioned something like 1 in 5 parcels has to pay (if you c what I mean). Better odds than the Lottery (cf lottery thread!)

august24 · 05/02/2004 18:26

you could try this link from parcel force.

Tinker · 05/02/2004 18:53

This should make it crystal clear

Q I have been charged VAT and duty for goods bought over the Internet, why is this?

A Any goods purchased from outside the EC are liable for duty and in some cases VAT. If you have been sent a gift and the value is under £36 you will not be liable, over that amount you will be charged depending on the product. For purchases bought by yourself with a value over £18.00 you may have to pay duty depending on the product; it may also be liable to VAT. Under that amount you will not be liable

Is duty and VAT charged on gifts?

A gift is not free of duty and VAT merely because it is a gift. The EC agreement allows them to be imported free of charges only if they comply with these rules:

Rule
Description

The value of the goods must not exceed 45 EURO (currently £36).

They must be correctly declared.

They must have been sent from a private person abroad to another person in this country.

The gift must be for the use of either yourself or your family.

There is no commercial or trade element and they have not been paid for either directly or indirectly.

Any alcohol, tobacco products, perfumes or toilet waters are within the allowances shown in paragraph 3.4. anything over those allowances is liable to charges.

They must be of an occasional nature only, such as a birthday or anniversary.

Does the sender have to declare the goods?

Under international postal agreements, the sender must make a Customs declaration on a form which, in most cases, will be attached to the package. The declaration includes a description of the goods, their value and whether they are gifts or commercial items. Any Post Office abroad should be able to give advice to the sender. It is in your own interest, whenever possible, to ensure that the sender abroad makes a complete and accurate declaration.

If no declaration is made, or the information given is inaccurate, the package may be delayed while we make further enquiries or in some cases the package and its contents may be seized.

How are Customs charges calculated?

Charges are raised at the Customs Postal Depot where the goods are imported. The Customs charge levied will depend on the type of goods imported and will be one or more of the following:

Type of duty
Description

Customs (Import) Duty
This is charged as a percentage of the value. The percentage varies depending on the type of goods and their country of origin. Duty is charged on the price paid for the goods including any local sales taxes plus postage, packing and insurance costs. However, postage is excluded from the calculation for duty on private gifts sent by postal means other than Datapost. Where the value of private gifts falls between 45 EURO (£36) and 350 EURO (£282) per consignment, a flat rate of 3.5% import duty may be applied but only if it is to your advantage. The flat rate does not apply to VAT or excise goods such as alcohol and tobacco.

Excise duty
This is charged on alcohol and tobacco products and is in addition to Customs Duty. The Excise Duty on wines and spirits depends on the alcohol content and whether wine is sparkling or still. Excise Duty on cigarettes is based on a percentage of the recommended retail price combined with a quantity charge. Excise Duty on other tobacco products is based on the net weight.

Value Added Tax
Import VAT is charged at the same rate that applies to similar goods sold in this country. The value of the goods for import VAT is based on the value for Customs Duty plus any duty charged.

kiwisbird · 05/02/2004 19:12

I imported apram twice once from NZ and once from US, I got charged import duty on the NZ one but not the US one, a lot is down to luck apparently, the courier brought it to my door and then I had to give him a cheque to release the goods, they had to pay at the customs pick up on my behalf
xx J

suedonim · 05/02/2004 19:25

We have bought a number of times from the US. I would estimate that we have had to pay dues in about one in three parcels. It really seems to be the luck of the draw whether the PO charges you. The PO levies a pretty hefty handling charge, too, which has meant that sometimes we've ended up paying more than 50% over and above the value of the goods. VAT is levied on children's clothes as well as adult - or if there is a way to avoid paying, we haven't discovered it!

GenT · 05/02/2004 19:27

oh yes, I forgot about the handling fee

suedonim · 05/02/2004 19:33

These are the handling charges levied by Parcel Force .

scoobysnax · 06/02/2004 08:42

They don't make this straightforward, do they?!!

This advice is realy great! It seems for me that I have perhaps a better than 50% chance of evading charges completely - maybe this depends on whether the packaging is plastered with the company logo or is plain?

But if I am charged there will probably be a handling fee of around £8, plus VAT even on kids clothes - boo, that seems unfair!!! Plus duty of maybe 12% or so.

All of which would handsomely cancel out a favourable exchange rate and then some! Sounds like it would be better to go over myself...

Thanks a lot to everyone who has helped out on this one - is there anyone out there who regularly buys from the US on the net without using a US connection as an intermediary?

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udar · 06/02/2004 10:41

How is the postage charged from the website as it might be worth placing a couple of smaller orders which would make the value of the goods smaller in £ terms and might negate the charges.
We've been charged for 2 out of 2 parcels ordered over the internet from USA but haven't been charged for gifts from NZ yet. A friend got charged for some prescription glasses that her mother sent over for her and had bought for her birthday which I think isn't very fair.

suedonim · 06/02/2004 11:06

Yes, I wondered about splitting an order, Udar, so that if a package was stopped the overall value would be less. But then you risk having to pay double handling charges if both orders were picked up.

scoobysnax · 06/02/2004 16:49

Udar that is a clever idea!

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sliverx2 · 07/02/2004 11:15

Ask the seller to write gift on the package and you will not have to pay import duty , works for us anyway!!

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