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Do you rate Magnet or John Lewis kitchens?

52 replies

mrsdarcy · 16/03/2006 13:27

Our kitchen is being ripped out tomorrow and we're getting some building work done before fitting a new kitchen. We'll be without a kitchen for a couple of months. I've had quotes from Magnet and John Lewis who were both rather expensive, I thought. I am a bit worried that Magnet's reputation seems rather patchy, and John Lewis wanted to do something wierd with the microwave housing.

The builders have said they could fit an off-the-peg kitchen from somewhere like Wickes or Howdens but my main concern about doing that is that we need to fit a few applicances into rather a tight space and I dread being told "sorry love, your washing machine isn't going to fit"! So I think I would quite like that side of things to be someone else's problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks Smile

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robinpud · 16/03/2006 23:04

John Lewis are fab. You will get a price down to the last screw, quality of tradesmen is fabulous, after sales ervice is brilliant. I chose the cheapest John Lewis kitchen I could and it is worth evry penny. Still looks drop dead gorgeous. Drawers are fab , snmooth running and easy to clean. Would not touch magnet at all. Mine is along established John Lewis so all their fitters are well known. would be a little more cautious if yours is a new JL

mrsdarcy · 16/03/2006 23:07

Our John Lewis has been around forever. I wish they could think of another way of housing the microwave though.

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robinpud · 16/03/2006 23:16

Can you not leave out the microwave bit somehow- I just got dh to put up a shelf and put microwave on that myself in another part of the kitchen?

mrsdarcy · 16/03/2006 23:33

Yes, I think I will do something like that. We rarely use a microwave anyway so it seems a shame for it to be the big sticking point.

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Littlefish · 17/03/2006 13:15

Special microwave bracket thing on the wall? I did this so I didn't have to use up work surface - it worked really well (not terribly beautiful though.)

blueshoes · 17/03/2006 14:23

John Lewis of Hungerford (who specialise in kitchens), rather than John Lewis, the high street store, I presume.

mcmudda · 17/03/2006 14:26

John Lewis the store does kitchens too - this thread is persuading me not to contact them though!

Passionflower · 17/03/2006 15:51

deffo don't get column thingies - they are a pain to keep clean, ditto doors with glass in.

PeachyClair · 17/03/2006 16:35

Ooh my Aunt got a John Lewis (chain Store) kitchen last year

currently taking them to court I believe to have repairs done, as they deny doing it but she knows they did (gouged areas from her new work surface)

mrsdarcy · 17/03/2006 19:29

It's John Lewis the store. I'd forgotten about John Lewis of Hungerford.

Our old kitchen has been ripped out today Smile. All the gloopy green cabinets are now in a skip (where they belong!).

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robinpud · 17/03/2006 23:19

I mean John Lewis the department store. John Lewis of Hungerford is definitely not in my league Blush

brimfull · 18/03/2006 00:14

mrs darcy,we have our microwave housed in a 900mm wall unit.There is a cupboard above with a door that swings up iyswim.It's very handy for big appliances like blender ,coffeemaker etc.

Think JL is being ridiculous not, being able to compromise,it's hardly radical is it?

We used an independent kitchen shop ,they were excellent.
Why don't you ask on mumsnet for recommendations in your area?

Bedshaped · 18/03/2006 06:50

we've got this \link{http://www.magnet.co.uk/kitchens/traditional/carrington.asp\magnet kitchen - Carrington} and its ok quality, the fitting was ok, the customer service was ok, but not ok enough for me to give them another £30K next time.

babyjackal · 18/03/2006 23:04

Probably wouldn't get one again.
It was a lot of hassle but eventually got about £300 compensation for when the Manager's (!) design didn't fit in our kitchen. It did look nice in the end but I did cry a few times when it was being installed. Also, what they claimed was solid beech wasn't - you could see when they cut it - just a good veneer. We got the cream & beech Shaker which they may or may not do anymore and after 4.5 years was still good but would totally avoid their Smeg oven which broke down about 3 times.
I would try probably myself a local independent company next time

spub · 20/03/2006 10:36

Magnet are the spawn of the devil. I had a horrendous time with them and ended up taking them to Qualitas - the industry watchdog, for compensation.
TBH, I think the quality of their kitchens is probably ok but you are held ransom by the quality of the fitters they sub contract to. You may get lucky - or not.
I would consider buying a kitchen from them but would seek my own fitter. I will never, ever, ever have any Magnet staff in my house ever again. I could rant for days but will instead parp myself!

scienceteacher · 20/04/2006 10:03

We had a Magnet kitchen installed 9 years ago - we picked the second cheapest range they had at the time as we have a big kitchen and couldn't afford a lot.

It's only just starting to look tired now, but still extremely functional (we haven't had any problems with the carcasses) - and that's with 5 kids and a string of au pairs, plus young tennants living in the house for four years.

When we decide to re-do the kitchen, we will probably keep all the carcasses and just renew worktop and cupboard fronts.

bundle · 20/04/2006 10:11

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JoolsToo · 20/04/2006 10:13

I have nothing but good things to say about Magnet. They gave a cracking service to us, we got a great fitter, everything was great, great, great!

EstherN62 · 14/11/2011 16:22

We had been quoted £37k for our new kitchen by John Lewis, however we were told to speak to someone at Malo Kitchens as they sell the same kitchens but for almost half the price.

When we eventually spoke with Malo Kitchens they quoted us even less than we had expected and were told that this was due to the Xmas sale to celebrate the opening of a new showroom and that they were giving the Mereway kitchen range away at cost price until the 24th December.

I hope this may be helpful to someone and that I have help save a few pounds as things are tight for everyone at the moment.

ettebel · 24/11/2011 15:30

This is an update to an earlier post with a bit more flesh on it.

This relates to an Innsbruck kitchen bought from Magnet Lichfield branch in Staffordshire.

We had a good start with magnet. The Sales staff were pleasant and helpful and after 3 iterations we got the design exactly as we wanted it.

We opted for the Innsbruck kitchen. We did want the Studio White but this was £2,000 more expensive.

We paid a total of £7,169.

They asked us to pay all the money up front which we weren't happy with, but did because they were a large and supposedly reliable national firm. We had a magnet kitchen before but a friend fitted it - this time we had moved area so this option wasn't available and we went with their Magnet fitter to get the guarantees.

With hindsight we would never pay up front again even with a big national because once they have your money there is no incentive for them to put right any snagging items.

The fitter's first efforts weren't good. The worktop wasn't fitted right, end panels also not right, doors not adjusted properly, and the worktop had both manufacturing marks and tool marks in it, two of the doors were warped, plus other minor issues.

After that fitting it took 8 weeks to get the same fitter back in - after 2 further site meetings and numerous phone calls and e-mails badgering them to get it sorted out. So we lived with all our kitchen stuff in the dining room for 8 weeks. this was because the worktops were coming out and new ones were being fitted, which meant a lot of disruption. No point putting all our stuff back in at that point.

The fitter wasn't known to the branch but recommended from another branch because our branch (Lichfield, Staffs) had a lot of response to the sale offers. We debated with our contact at Lichfield whether to have him back for some time, and eventually decided (with misgivings) that we would give him a chance to rectify the faults.

Then when the guy came back he offered no apology for the standard the first time around, blamed everything else but himself and STILL didn't do it right. In fact we had some different issues after he left to the first time!

Another site meeting and snagging list later, numerous e-mails to fix a date which never arrived, people going on leave without doing what they promised first, a visit from a new fitter (a good one this time), then a visit from the customer services manager, and then the fitter back for the last time to provide an adequate solution. All in all from fitting to resolution took over 3 MONTHS.

There have been some plus points. We got a good design. We opted for Magnet because they did the extra tall wall units in many of their ranges, and having a small kitchen meant extra storage was really important. Using the extra tall units also gave us the ability to use the space over the doors with 300mm deep top boxes, giving even more space and making the kitchen feel much larger.

So the kitchen achieved the storage and look we wanted, but it should not have taken 3 months to achieve it. It is only because I would not give in that we got where we are now. However it has been stressful and depressing at times, and what annoyed us most of all was phone calls not answered, calls not returned after messages left, poor communication between staff and e-mails also not replied to.

We even got to the stage of threatening legal action and contacting the local paper to see if they wanted our story.

Magnet offered £400 towards the cost of finishing off the kitchen as a goodwill gesture. Welcome as it will pay for much of the tiling but it's a bit 'too little too late'.

I would not recommend them and will never use their service again. If you like their ranges I would do what we did the first time and det a design, then have a local fitter (who comes with a local recommendation and can give references/photos) buy it trade and install it for you.

The last time we did this we got a better quality kitchen for a larger kitchen installed for £2,500 less than we paid this time round. And it was done in less time even though our friend had to do most of the work at weekends.

walkingdead · 15/12/2011 19:36

For what it's worth:

John Lewis kitchens are junk in my opinion.

The fitter was useless (I am reasonably competent at DIY myself, but some of the work he did, I would be ashamed to present to my wife as a finished piece of work).

Eventually, with all the things that go wrong, you just give up and accept what you have been given. Sad but true. The whole experience was that bad. I could go on for hours.

The electrician was worse. The most arrogant, useless, know-it-all tradesperson that I have ever had the misfortune to have working in my house. And that is saying something....

After several months, we still have not received the vital certificates for the Gas and Electrical work (that are a LEGAL requirement). JL are curiously silent at the moment.

All in all, I would say this is around £13K worth of work that is probably worth only half that price.

I'm not saying that other suppliers are any better, but if this is what you get from JL, I can only shudder at the thought of what the others are doing.

Approach with caution.

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andrea99 · 06/11/2013 22:34

We are having a terrible time with John Lewis (Peter Jones). Today the builder lost my keys (he told my nanny he had to take hers and left). I have no idea where he lost them but he will not respond to text or phone calls so I'm left wondering if I'm safe at home with my small child tonight.

We also have problems with the work which surprises us as we paid extra vs. other options to avoid headache! Really unhappy.

PSJ1 · 27/07/2016 09:00

We have just installed an expensive Magnet kitchen and found the customer service following delivery to be extremely poor. There were a number of mistakes in our delivery, and it took a staggering three months for all the components to arrive. This resulted in escalating costs, numerous phone calls, and a huge amount of distress.

Wrong items, missing items, more wrong items, incompatible items - and we had to wait weeks for the worktop and splashback to be installed, which meant that the kitchen wasn't even useable.

In addition to this, aspects of the design did not work in practice, forcing us to re-think the design as the job was on-going. We will never use Magnet again.

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