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The man I knew affectionately as 8

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Thejunglewithin · 31/07/2025 21:13

Just wanted to share something I wrote after a recent experience on here. A man PM’d me and we built what felt like a genuine connection, similar interests, thoughtful conversations and he asked all the right things. But when I didn’t follow the route he was clearly hoping for he vanished. It left me with a mix of feelings.
I processed it the best way I know how, with words.
This is for anyone who’s dealt with digital charm that turned out to be performance. I hope it resonates.

I just lost a lie.
It wore kind words like armor and charm like a tie
He gave me his time with a gentle disguise
And whispered connection through well polished lines
He PM’d me on Mumsnet, polite and well spoken
A message so warm it felt like a token
We formed a connection thinking it was real
Bonded by same values, by thoughts, by feel
He asked about my life, all the right cues
Made it seem like he cared like he’d walked in my shoes
We had similar interests, a natural flow
He played the part well like a seasoned pro
I never knew what he looked like, not a face not a clue
Just a faceless man spinning threads that felt true
He mirrored my thoughts, my values, my tone
But always behind a keyboard, always alone
And just when I spoke from a place that was true
The mask slipped and he vanished from view
No warning, no drama, no chance to ask why
Just silence and shadows, a digital goodbye
Turns out my “friend” was just playing a role
With patience and flattery as tools of control
Waiting to see if I’d play the same game
And when I declined he vanished in shame
But let’s be clear, I didn’t lose gold
Not love, not kindness, not a hand to hold
I lost a fiction with practiced replies
A man shaped echo wrapped in lies
So this is for every woman online
Who spots the signs, the subtle decline
If he’s too smooth and never gets real
You might be the next name on his meal
Trust your gut, stay sharp don’t cry
Because you didn’t lose love
You just lost a lie.

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Catullus5 · 02/08/2025 00:08

I've been a bit flippant but @Thejunglewithin I am sorry this happened to you. Striking up conversations online is so different: it's very easy to share all manner of personal details in a way that never would happen offline, and that's done without any of the social cues and tells that happen when you're physically with a person. So it's easy to become more invested than your true knowledge of the other person warrants. It's hard to be wary, as it's such a heady feeling and (as has been my experience) these things can become genuine relationships. Also, as you say, people can just vanish without a goodbye, which is really low-down behaviour. Please don't feel ashamed: it's not your fault that you were treated this way.

Thanksman · 05/08/2025 18:37

Not a 10 then?

Kiwirose · 05/08/2025 20:35

This poem is fab.

Thanks for sharing and sorry you had this experience. Unfortunately you won't be the only person this happens to and I am sure your reflections in this poem will help others.

Sadcafe · 06/08/2025 09:18

Catullus5 · 01/08/2025 08:30

What was the weird link sending thing? I've just had something like that then l though as the message has been removed I think the profile (Wright55) has been banned.

Wright55 seems to send these to anyone, regardless of sex, I’m male and had one a few days ago but deleted by MN. As to the PMs, personally I don’t send them, if someone sends them to me I respond but I wouldn’t initiate, I’m not perfect but I do try to be respectful

110battery · 10/08/2025 14:42

Beautifully written, I’ve had a number of online ‘relationships’ even though I have a partner IRL, it’s so easy to get emotionally attached, and I did with one of them but had to give my head a good wobble as realistically I didn’t really want to meet with him just wanted an online friendship with the benefits. some of these men do come across like the perfect gentleman.

MsDDxx · 11/08/2025 10:00

110battery · 10/08/2025 14:42

Beautifully written, I’ve had a number of online ‘relationships’ even though I have a partner IRL, it’s so easy to get emotionally attached, and I did with one of them but had to give my head a good wobble as realistically I didn’t really want to meet with him just wanted an online friendship with the benefits. some of these men do come across like the perfect gentleman.

In my experience (and I’ve chatted to quite a few!) they only show you who they want you to believe them to be.

It’s fine if you don’t take it seriously, protect yourself and your dignity, and just have fun with it. If you’re expecting more, it’s not worth it.

isittimetogethigh · 26/10/2025 19:54

Wow, very thought provoking

AtYourPleasure · 26/10/2025 20:34

Well, this thread popped up again just when I needed it.

StarlightLady · 27/10/2025 07:17

It’s interesting that this thread has been revived again. I’ve received (and ignored) a number of one liner PMs of the “hello” or “how are you” variety which l don’t get. I’m puzzled what men want to achieve by these. Is this how they handle their everyday lives.

l will give a courteous response to something well written and polite, providing context. I like to think l’ve helped a few people along the way. Not only from those posting on the Sex board (nothing wrong with that, sex is part of life) but elsewhere.

l agree with others that people should not be able to PM immediately.

AtYourPleasure · 10/11/2025 14:18

110battery · 10/08/2025 14:42

Beautifully written, I’ve had a number of online ‘relationships’ even though I have a partner IRL, it’s so easy to get emotionally attached, and I did with one of them but had to give my head a good wobble as realistically I didn’t really want to meet with him just wanted an online friendship with the benefits. some of these men do come across like the perfect gentleman.

I found myself emotionally attached to someone. It started via the now infamous "chat" thread, so obvious what it was from the start - and ofcourse, he was married. Eventually we started to talk everyday about all sorts. It became "more".

Obviously I knew it wasn't "real" but we started classing it as a "relationship" and I guess I got caught up in the 'I love yous' and the 'I wish we could be together' and the talk of where he wanted to honeymoon with me. I know it's not real, I know mostvof what he tells me about his wife is b0ll0cks, but got swept up anyway. Very odd feeling.

We're still chatting 3 years later but I'm struggling with all of it. I feel like I'm too involved emotionally while it's pure fantasy for him (though he'd say otherwise). He knows so little about me while I know quite a bit about him - I ask, he does not. He's just not interested. He's just not interested in knowing more. There are things I'm fine with him not knowing and if he asked I'd tell him that. He won't ask and he told me so - said he would never ask me anything and if I wanted him to know I would have to tell him. He doesn't want to pry. Which, in part, is fair enough but if you're interested in someone, don't you instinctively want to get to know them? When I have told him something he shows minimal interest anyway, but when he tells me something I feel like I get really into it with him. So now I just don't bother telling him anything.

I always thought I was fine with it all but I'm clearly not. It probably would have been better to not get to know him. Maybe keeping it as something sexual would have been better.

AnonAnonmystery · 10/11/2025 16:40

@AtYourPleasure do you know what each other look like in real life? Are you married / in a relationship. You sound really invested :(

AtYourPleasure · 10/11/2025 17:32

AnonAnonmystery · 10/11/2025 16:40

@AtYourPleasure do you know what each other look like in real life? Are you married / in a relationship. You sound really invested :(

I know what he looks like. He doesn't know what I look like. Don't think he's even asked to see a picture of me.

I'm single!

AnonAnonmystery · 10/11/2025 17:36

@AtYourPleasure please don’t waste anymore time with this man. You sound emotionally drained to be honest. You need to find someone who genuinely wants to be with you, see you, make you happy. Sorry for the unsolicited advice but he’s not giving you 100% because he’s married and in a way it causes a problem in his marriage too as the attention that should be on his wife if on you. Neither of the women are winning. Or getting what they deserve.

AtYourPleasure · 10/11/2025 18:03

TBF @AnonAnonmystery I probably wouldn't have sent him a photo anyway.

I do get what you're saying about taking attention from his wife but TBH, if it wasn't me he was messaging he'd be posting on other sites - I know because sometimes he tells me he's been quiet cos he's be on such and such - and I reckon he spends quite a bit of time with her/family - even when he says she isn't going out, I reckon a lot of the time she is and he just doesn't want to say.

And yes. I'm emotionally drained. I'm starting to feel like I've been an audience for him the last 3 years.

AtYourPleasure · 10/11/2025 19:30

Although yeah, I don't deserve any sympathy.

SamkaSabrinka · 11/11/2025 15:17

AtYourPleasure · 10/11/2025 19:30

Although yeah, I don't deserve any sympathy.

You do, of course, deserve sympathy/understanding/support.

I presume this convo was at some point taken to some other more private place like what's app? And when you say it is sexual and you know what he looks like and you've been an 'audience' for him ... ? And he has never seen or asked for a picture of you? That sounds very odd.

LiveToTell · 11/11/2025 16:01

SamkaSabrinka · 11/11/2025 15:17

You do, of course, deserve sympathy/understanding/support.

I presume this convo was at some point taken to some other more private place like what's app? And when you say it is sexual and you know what he looks like and you've been an 'audience' for him ... ? And he has never seen or asked for a picture of you? That sounds very odd.

It is odd he hasn’t asked for a picture. In my experience…they nag, nag, nag about this.

During the last three years that you’ve been focusing on someone completely unavailable, you’re taking the time away from yourself and potentially someone else who IS free to be with you.

It’s really bizarre he’s not interested in anything about you. I think, as hard as it is, you’re best off setting yourself free from person.

AtYourPleasure · 15/11/2025 11:33

LiveToTell · 11/11/2025 16:01

It is odd he hasn’t asked for a picture. In my experience…they nag, nag, nag about this.

During the last three years that you’ve been focusing on someone completely unavailable, you’re taking the time away from yourself and potentially someone else who IS free to be with you.

It’s really bizarre he’s not interested in anything about you. I think, as hard as it is, you’re best off setting yourself free from person.

He asked a few times for... revealing... pics but I only ever sent one and he's never badgered me for them, might mention it once a year but that's it. He likes to share lots of him and things he's up to.

It definitely feels like... he wants to receive attention but isn't overly fussed on giving it. He's told me lots about him and it creates this intimacy.

FFS, he's married. What was I expecting?

LiveToTell · 15/11/2025 11:44

As he’s married, it will never get better than this. Having contact with him stops you being open to someone who is available. Don’t waste your life for this guy. Easier said than done when you’re attached, I know.

AtYourPleasure · 15/11/2025 11:54

LiveToTell · 15/11/2025 11:44

As he’s married, it will never get better than this. Having contact with him stops you being open to someone who is available. Don’t waste your life for this guy. Easier said than done when you’re attached, I know.

Yeah, but if there's one thing I've learned from this guy - they aren't interested in women as people, just what we can give them - and that's sex. We're nothing beyond that. Everything that makes us "us" is tolerated or they pretend to be interested.

AnonAnonmystery · 15/11/2025 17:35

@AtYourPleasure I hope you can break away from this toxic relationship. It sounds like he makes you feel like shit. Not all men are so self centred and narcissistic. You deserve better! Please tell him to do one!

AtYourPleasure · 18/12/2025 16:58

AnonAnonmystery · 15/11/2025 17:35

@AtYourPleasure I hope you can break away from this toxic relationship. It sounds like he makes you feel like shit. Not all men are so self centred and narcissistic. You deserve better! Please tell him to do one!

So do I. So do I. Last week we were having a heated discussion about him only staying up for sex and he said that's not what happened on this occasion but then then said "lucky for you I'm bang to rights because I would stay up for sex and not to chat." That was obviously a bit hurtful, especially when I know he can stay up and post on other forums. Or go camping. Or occasionally out with friends. Am I so wrong in being hurt by that? I've never even asked him to stay up. When he says he's tired and going to bed I just accept it. Then I see him elsewhere online and then he tells me that he just won't stay up to talk to me.

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