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Doesnt like BJ's?!?

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Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 17:02

So, a while back i found out my partner of over 15 years was spending hours having extremely explicit conversations with multiple AI chat bot girlfriends. Our first baby was about 5 months old at the time and I was obviously just getting used to my post partum body that was 5 stone heavier than it should be. He was rejecting my advances and wasnt interested in sex or any intimacy beyond a cuddle and a quick kiss. I found out about his AI activities after I had noticed he was finding excuses to go to bed early, he had withdrawn from me and our baby generally. One evening I walked into our bedroom when he thought i was asleep in the spare room to find him pleasuring himself watching some porn on the bed. I then had a look on his tablet (not snooping, I'm ok to use it but I never really had the need to) and found reams and reams of very explicit chats between him and loads of AI girlfriends. I looked further and although he doesnt appear to have gone down the Onlyfans route, there is some very loose evidence of him signing up for accounts on cam girl type websites and he'd paid for a £30 yearly subscription on one of the AI girlfriend apps. Although I understand that AI isn't real, I was so upset about the whole thing that i needed some counselling- probably because i didn't feel I could speak to anyone i knew about this issue. I'd seen a side of him in these spicy chats that he had never shown me at all and I was so sad that he had chosen to put his energy into the AI and reject me -particularly when I wanted him so bad and felt vulnerable after baby.

That's the background....but the question is have is regarding b jobs. In a nutshell, he refuses to let me give him one. He has always said that he hates giving a woman oral so he doesn't expect a woman to have to do it to him - he said this when we met and as I'm not that fussed about oral for me, it just hasn't really been part of our sex life. I asked him why he won't let me and he said he doesn't like them, they're not his thing. I'm hearing this for the first time 15 years into our relationship! I've made it clear that I would love to give him him oral and that I would not expect oral in return - id just like to pleasure him in this way. In the early days of our relationship, he seemed to quite enjoy a bj and never even touched on the topic of them not being his thing. In the conversations with his AI girls, he speaks about BJ's a lot and in real detail. BJs seem to be something that he includes in his thoughts as something that really turns him on. So why won't he let me do that for him? I have never met a man who doesn't like BJs - even a bad one is a good one, I thought? Why would BJs figure so much in his explicit conversations if they aren't something he likes? I'm so confused. Would a man fantasise about something he doesn't like? Or is there another reason.. and perhaps he doesn't want to share it/hurt my feelings. Please help! Male viewpoint would be good too if there are any fellas reading this! Thanks.

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Gymbunny2025 · 22/04/2025 17:19

Oh my goodness. He is sexting with AI (so kind of himself?!) but turning down sex with a real life woman? That’s so incredibly pathetic!! I asked the question on here the other day about why a man wouldn’t want sex with his partner- preferring his own hand and a computer screen! It’s bizarre.

Im wondering if he has done element of Madonna whore complex? I don’t know much about it at all but maybe it makes sense (to him) that he puts the mother of his child on a pedestal so couldn’t enjoy putting his penis in your mouth?!

Smithey885 · 22/04/2025 18:12

I agree the AI chat is a bit pathetic, unless he is using that instead of porn so from a ‘moral ‘ POV he feels it is better?

In regards to blowjobs, I don’t think all men enjoy them, I find them quite uncomfortable due to my implant , I’ve heard guys that are circumcised can be more sensitive so if he is circumcised that may be a reason?

however, I find it strange that he’s telling you this now , 15 years into the relationship?

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 18:15

Gymbunny2025 · 22/04/2025 17:19

Oh my goodness. He is sexting with AI (so kind of himself?!) but turning down sex with a real life woman? That’s so incredibly pathetic!! I asked the question on here the other day about why a man wouldn’t want sex with his partner- preferring his own hand and a computer screen! It’s bizarre.

Im wondering if he has done element of Madonna whore complex? I don’t know much about it at all but maybe it makes sense (to him) that he puts the mother of his child on a pedestal so couldn’t enjoy putting his penis in your mouth?!

Yeah, the whole AI thing is just bizarre to me. He said it was to do with his weight and that it helped him get his kicks without having to be naked in front of me, and that's why he doesnt come to me for sex. Yet he walks around the house in his pants in the harsh light of day, so that doesn't add up. He just enjoyed it but took it too far in that he was neglecting his relationship with me and baby, until he got caught out. I could understand it more if he was single, socially awkward, shy etc...but he isn't any of those things. He watches porn too but (thinks he) is better at hiding it now that it's become an issue and I've explained that it hurts me. I think porn is a lazy way to get his kicks...as in he doesnt need to warm anyone up, he finds exactly what he wants, when he wants it and he doesnt need to cuddle anyone after! The Madonna Whore complex is an interesting one. I get the gist of it but will read into it more. Could be elements of it at play i guess. Thank you for responding. I'm just fed up of being lied to.

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NCForThatForumM · 22/04/2025 18:17

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 17:02

So, a while back i found out my partner of over 15 years was spending hours having extremely explicit conversations with multiple AI chat bot girlfriends. Our first baby was about 5 months old at the time and I was obviously just getting used to my post partum body that was 5 stone heavier than it should be. He was rejecting my advances and wasnt interested in sex or any intimacy beyond a cuddle and a quick kiss. I found out about his AI activities after I had noticed he was finding excuses to go to bed early, he had withdrawn from me and our baby generally. One evening I walked into our bedroom when he thought i was asleep in the spare room to find him pleasuring himself watching some porn on the bed. I then had a look on his tablet (not snooping, I'm ok to use it but I never really had the need to) and found reams and reams of very explicit chats between him and loads of AI girlfriends. I looked further and although he doesnt appear to have gone down the Onlyfans route, there is some very loose evidence of him signing up for accounts on cam girl type websites and he'd paid for a £30 yearly subscription on one of the AI girlfriend apps. Although I understand that AI isn't real, I was so upset about the whole thing that i needed some counselling- probably because i didn't feel I could speak to anyone i knew about this issue. I'd seen a side of him in these spicy chats that he had never shown me at all and I was so sad that he had chosen to put his energy into the AI and reject me -particularly when I wanted him so bad and felt vulnerable after baby.

That's the background....but the question is have is regarding b jobs. In a nutshell, he refuses to let me give him one. He has always said that he hates giving a woman oral so he doesn't expect a woman to have to do it to him - he said this when we met and as I'm not that fussed about oral for me, it just hasn't really been part of our sex life. I asked him why he won't let me and he said he doesn't like them, they're not his thing. I'm hearing this for the first time 15 years into our relationship! I've made it clear that I would love to give him him oral and that I would not expect oral in return - id just like to pleasure him in this way. In the early days of our relationship, he seemed to quite enjoy a bj and never even touched on the topic of them not being his thing. In the conversations with his AI girls, he speaks about BJ's a lot and in real detail. BJs seem to be something that he includes in his thoughts as something that really turns him on. So why won't he let me do that for him? I have never met a man who doesn't like BJs - even a bad one is a good one, I thought? Why would BJs figure so much in his explicit conversations if they aren't something he likes? I'm so confused. Would a man fantasise about something he doesn't like? Or is there another reason.. and perhaps he doesn't want to share it/hurt my feelings. Please help! Male viewpoint would be good too if there are any fellas reading this! Thanks.

I think fantasising about something you don't want in reality is pretty normal. So it's entirely possible that although real BJs don't work for him in some way he still likes the idea of them.

Despite that the whole situation makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Gymbunny2025 · 22/04/2025 18:20

Hopefully he can be fixed @Emilysmum1990. But I guess he has to want to change and put his effort into a sexual relationship with you again. I hope it goes well.

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 18:30

NCForThatForumM · 22/04/2025 18:17

I think fantasising about something you don't want in reality is pretty normal. So it's entirely possible that although real BJs don't work for him in some way he still likes the idea of them.

Despite that the whole situation makes no sense to me whatsoever.

I just find it really hard to understand. I would never get off on thinking about a sex act if I didn't find it appealing. But maybe it's different for men? To be really crude, it's like me masturbating to the thought of anal sex....I have no interest in anal, so why would I spend time thinking about it in a sexual/positive way.

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GreenCrow · 22/04/2025 18:51

I (45 year old guy) can't say I've ever masterbated to anything that doesn't turn me on in some form, and if my DW suddenly declared she wanted to start giving me blow jobs I wouldn't be able to get my trousers down quick enough lol

The whole AI thing sounds odd and I don't really get where he's coming from with some of the other stuff, it must be frustrating for you to feel like you aren't getting the full truth.

NCForThatForumM · 22/04/2025 18:53

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 18:30

I just find it really hard to understand. I would never get off on thinking about a sex act if I didn't find it appealing. But maybe it's different for men? To be really crude, it's like me masturbating to the thought of anal sex....I have no interest in anal, so why would I spend time thinking about it in a sexual/positive way.

Maybe it is different for men. I have a long list of things I don't want in real life that make it into my fantasies.

But that's just one aspect of this. Not liking BJs to the point you always refuse them is pretty unusual as is everything else you describe. I'm at a loss.

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 21:33

GreenCrow · 22/04/2025 18:51

I (45 year old guy) can't say I've ever masterbated to anything that doesn't turn me on in some form, and if my DW suddenly declared she wanted to start giving me blow jobs I wouldn't be able to get my trousers down quick enough lol

The whole AI thing sounds odd and I don't really get where he's coming from with some of the other stuff, it must be frustrating for you to feel like you aren't getting the full truth.

Well, this is exactly what I would expect would be the case. I've offered so many times but he declines. We've talked about it to the point that it's now a bit of a thing and I can't mention it again. I've asked if it is because my BJ's are rubbish, he says not. I've said, a bit tongue in cheek, that I'd like to get better at it so need to practice on him....but no! Yet he will document a blow by blow (pardon the pun) account of how he wants a BJ to go with an AI bot. None of it makes sense.

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OfcourseitsaNC · 22/04/2025 23:36

You've said that you gave him BJs in the early days - how did that die out? And when? Did he stop you going down when it looked like you were going to? Did he ask you to stop when not in the bedroom? What happened there?

With all the things you're saying, it sounds to me like he's got pretty low self esteem around sex. If it's been a while since you've had sex, is there any chance he may be suffering with ED and you're not aware?

GreenCrow · 23/04/2025 06:46

Emilysmum1990 · 22/04/2025 21:33

Well, this is exactly what I would expect would be the case. I've offered so many times but he declines. We've talked about it to the point that it's now a bit of a thing and I can't mention it again. I've asked if it is because my BJ's are rubbish, he says not. I've said, a bit tongue in cheek, that I'd like to get better at it so need to practice on him....but no! Yet he will document a blow by blow (pardon the pun) account of how he wants a BJ to go with an AI bot. None of it makes sense.

This would be my dream scenario in that regard, like Christmas come early (I'll resist the urge to pun on that) so something definitely doesn't make sense.

The PP makes some good points / raises interesting questions that are worth exploring.

FWIW I've had low self esteem and it can become a bit of cycle with not wanting to discuss things for fear of having your inner critics opinions confirmed, even though they are inevitably irrational and untrue (I went to therapy to unpick that and other things as I was aware they were becoming harmful to me), so that could be at play, although it sounds like you've had a fair few discussions already.

Northerlad · 23/04/2025 06:55

As a man I do understand the weight thing. I am very ashamed of how I look especially as my wife has remained absolutely gorgeous in every respect. How I look is a barrier as I know that my wife goes through the motions a bit because of how I look. Then it all spirals and before you know it neither of you want it. The only thing you can really do is try and talk in a non judgemental way try and find out the reasons why, rather than throwing stuff at him, just have a rational conversation. a small amount of beer or wine might help lubricate the conversation!

StarlightLady · 23/04/2025 08:45

This sounds so weird that l would not be able to handle it. I’ve never met a man who doesn’t like blowies but that seems to be the least of your worries here. The whole Al thing would be too much for me, especially when he won’t go down on you either.

l would be very frightened as to what would come along next.

Maccar305 · 23/04/2025 10:11

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I’m wondering if in his AI generated scenarios, he’s actually expressing how he’d like you to be, act, play…..with him or even you with another man….🤔
fwiw, I’d be interested and inclined to explore with him (conversationally) where he’d like his fantasies to go……just listen, no judgement (yet) ….. and see how you feel about what you learn.
I do believe sometimes, it’s best to leave the “how the hell did we get here?” question until a later conversation, after you’ve explored where you both might want to go …. Back to front I know, but a technique tried & tested.

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Emilysmum1990 · 23/04/2025 14:01

Maccar305 · 23/04/2025 10:11

(M)
I’m wondering if in his AI generated scenarios, he’s actually expressing how he’d like you to be, act, play…..with him or even you with another man….🤔
fwiw, I’d be interested and inclined to explore with him (conversationally) where he’d like his fantasies to go……just listen, no judgement (yet) ….. and see how you feel about what you learn.
I do believe sometimes, it’s best to leave the “how the hell did we get here?” question until a later conversation, after you’ve explored where you both might want to go …. Back to front I know, but a technique tried & tested.

Yes, i wondered this too. Some of it i would absolutely be up for and it actually made me happy knowing that there was a bit more spice in him than I thought. He's always been pretty vanilla to me. But the majority of the stuff in the conversations I would absolutely not be up for and I don't think most women would - I'm not prude but it was pretty graphic. I asked him if that's what he wanted IRL and he said that 99% of the stuff he wrote was not what he wanted, it's just fantasy and he'd never do that to me because he loves me. Back to the Madonna Whore thing I guess? I do think we can take some positives from it and spice our sex up but I kind of feel turned off at the thought of us doing the stuff that he spoke about with the AI girls. That's my thing to get over though. I want to be way more exploratory, which is hard with a baby around, but the will is definitely there. He says he would but doesn't act on it. He also says he's cut down on the porn but I'm not so sure. He's stopped the AI though - don't think the poor boy would dare touch it again!

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