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How to get my head around getting head!

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Scarletforyous · 11/06/2024 22:23

Me and DH have a good sex life. Been together over 20 years and still trying new things. I’m really enjoying it.
However - I just can’t let myself enjoy him going down on me! Maybe self conscious, I don’t know, but I don’t know how to get over it. He enjoys it, wants me to enjoy it but I always end up stopping it by doing other things.
Anyone else like this? How can I get over it or should I just tell him I don’t want him to do it anymore?
Thanks for advice.

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StarlightLady · 12/06/2024 06:22

Personally, for me it’s the best thing in the world. If l could have only one type of sex, l wouldn’t be very happy having to choose, but it would be oral.

But maybe it is not for you. Or, if you are not used to it, maybe you are finding it difficult to relax. Maybe a nice bottle of wine and an oral only session? Good luck x

BellaDelBosco · 12/06/2024 10:13

Sex is so much what is in your head... what is stopping you from enjoying it?

Or looking it from the opposite perspective, what would you, in an ideal world, like to happen when you are 'getting head'?

On my side, I used to like giving oral but not receiving it.

For me (cishet perspective) oral can be what men who are not good at sex do to 'pleasure' you and feeling like they are doing you a favour. I dislike the concept of 'pleasuring' and the verb too. I also dislike its transactional aspect and it did nothing for me.

I changed my attitude through lots of talking with my partner (who loves giving oral to please himself, not for me) and associating it to the sexual mindset I prefer.

OpenRoadYeehaw · 12/06/2024 10:27

I don’t really like it either. I don’t think it’s a big issue.

Scarletforyous · 12/06/2024 13:25

Thanks all. You’re so right @BellaDelBosco about it being in your head. I enjoy the foreplay and trying new things a lot but as soon as it goes there, I almost lose the mood. I wonder if it’s the expectation that I should come through oral so DH can feel he’s done a good job?! That’s all me though, he’s never said anything.
Maybe I should have a few drinks like you said @StarlightLady and try and go there in my mind too.
@OpenRoadYeehaw Glad I’m not the only one.

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Acesup6995 · 12/06/2024 14:21

I would be 1000 percent interested in any help or advice on this same question. I am a married guy who has always been so absolutely addicted to going down on women and giving them oral. It has always been my happy place and I might like it as much of not more than intercourse, literally have to push my face away I can’t stop myself once I get started.
But my wife of 10 years who I adore says she has never ever liked it even long before she met me. I’ve tried and she shuts me down before I can even get there or after like a few seconds literally. I know it’s all in her head cause the one time she was drunk and I went for it I felt her body responding and getting close to cumming but I only made it less than five minutes before she freaked out about how gross it is and made me stop.

Problem seems to be 100 percent mental block. She says it makes her self conscious even though her body is beautiful and she tastes amazing but she gets all in her head about it and she doesn’t know what to do with herself like she can’t just lay back and enjoy and be a pillow princess for a few minutes. If I could just get her out of her own head long enough to let me do what I know how to do so good she would enjoy it but can’t figure out how to get her to have open mind and try.

I actually miss it really bad. Like I’ve literally talked about it with therapist like it’s a trauma I will never get to enjoy eating pussy again ever for the rest of my life. Sounds whiny but yeah it’s been hard missing it.

So if anybody has any insight to how to help her get past the block and get into it that would be amazing.

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Scarletforyous · 12/06/2024 17:44

Interesting perspective. I assumed he was doing it all for me, like I give him oral for his pleasure. What does he get out of it for himself? He used to do it years ago but said he knew I wasn’t mad about it so stopped. We’ve been experimenting with other stuff lately which I’m loving, so it’s reignited his efforts 😂
I’d like to enjoy it, and if I gave it enough time maybe I might but as soon as he’s there, I’m thinking of a different position to go to.
He's very good with his hands so I suppose
that’s what I prefer.

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Anthonysimagination · 12/06/2024 20:43

Hi op

Firstly if it isn’t for you it isn’t for you and that’s ok. It does sound like you’d like to lean into it a little for him. I believe that if you can get out of your head and his patience and technique is on point that there’s a chance to feel differently about it.

As a man who not only enjoys giving oral sees it as an integral intimate act of the love making experience (my partner still doesn’t want it every time) I can guarantee that he is getting a lot out of it.

apologies as I am desperately trying not to over share,I find it primal and it massively enhances my own sexual experiences. It it difficult for me to understand how some /many men have such an issue with it but I do respect everyone is different.

I do believe because of this it has sometimes been difficult to articulate why I like it to a partner. I don’t know why but I’ve never told a partner I like sensory stimulation from every aspect of a giving oral and having a woman come with my tongue is for me comparable to my own orgasm. (honestly)

I follow Pamela Madson her website is back to the body. She is in my opinion a super star of championing women’s pleasure. She is very much about getting out of your head and allowing yourself to experience the moment I’ll post an article from her news letter below and it can be deleted if not allowed.

Anthonysimagination · 12/06/2024 20:45

Taken from back to the body news letter I was struggling to link it via the website. Credit Pamela Madson

What is stopping countless women from experiencing the pleasure of orgasm? And is female Viagra the answer? Before you pop your first pill, ask yourself this: When was the last time during a sexual encounter that you were simply focused on being in the moment of sexual expression? That amazing moment where you stop worrying about whether you should be giving or receiving, or what should happen next, or how you look, or if you will “get somewhere”?

I work primarily with women around their relationship to their sexuality and their bodies. I literally help women find their pleasure in their bodies, expand their pleasure potential, and for some women I help them discover orgasm for the first time. The reasons why women hold themselves back from receiving pleasure in their bodies and having orgasm are common and widespread. And women can open up to pleasure and change their relationship to their bodies and their sexuality at any age.

Four Common Reasons Why Women Don’t Have Orgasms

  1. Women worry about time. Stop watching the clock — sex is not about who finishes first. Many women are worried that they “take too long” and are being selfish, or that they should be “doing” rather than receiving pleasure. It’s completely common for women to actually stop themselves from experiencing pleasure because it takes time and they go into self-ridicule and self-judgment mode. There is nothing like focusing on whether or not you are “taking too long” and “being selfish” or “greedy” to stop a delicious orgasm. Women sometimes take a little longer to relax, open and receive pleasure in their bodies. Orgasms can take time and the best orgasms are all about the build up. Let it happen! Aren’t you worth the time? Give yourself permission to have pleasure in your life. You are not greedy to want multiple orgasms, or frankly ANY orgasm. Isn’t it time to raise your pleasure ceiling and make space for them to happen? Forget the clock. Sex doesn’t have a time limit.
  1. Women have a hard time receiving pleasure. Most women are really good at doing for others. I talk to countless women who want me to teach them how to “give” pleasure to their partners. When we go deeper, I find out that the biggest problem is that they don’t know how to receive pleasure! Women are conditioned to give. It’s a radical idea for many women to simply allow pleasure into their own bodies and completely experience that. This can be the hardest thing for many women to do and if you can’t fully receive — it can be nearly impossible to let go and have an orgasm. You deserve pleasure and happiness. You can give it to yourself and/or your partner may really want to offer it to you. Sometimes, we have to literally “take” pleasure and claim it for ourselves. Take the time to stop giving and open to the pleasure of receiving. Remember, your partner wants to give you something beautiful. Savor and enjoy the gift.

Women don’t know how. Many women really don’t know how to have an orgasm. It’s hard to believe that a woman with an advanced college degree may not know their own anatomy, but it is extraordinarily common. It’s hard to have an orgasm when you are unfamiliar with your own parts. Way too many women do not know their own anatomy, and have no idea what kind of touch gives them pleasure. If you can’t name your parts and have no idea what gives you pleasure, how can you ask for it? Many women have never experienced wonderful touch. And their partners are as uneducated as they are. So how can you ask for something you don’t know exists? Most women do not know that it is very common for women not to climax during intercourse unless their clitoris is stimulated. Both men and women are not taught about female bodies. To learn more about the primary sex organ for women — the clitoris — please read this blog. The fact is that our clitoris needs to fill with blood and engorge just like a penis does if we want to have amazing orgasms. That takes time and stimulation! So if you are not touching all of the various parts of your vulva — the inner labia and your clitoris — you are shutting off your main portal to pleasure. It can take time to learn and experiment with your own body and it’s a must do if you want to experience orgasms and expand your pleasure. Getting to know your body and taking on your sexuality requires time and effort. If you are willing to go to the gym, eat right, meditate and see the doctor regularly, why aren’t you willing to put the time and effort into your sexuality? Great sex doesn’t always just happen. We have to create our own incredible erotic lives and give it the time and effort it deserves. Women are taught in many ways to give their sexuality to their male partner and they will take care of everything. We become passive yet not responsive. It’s only when women are willing to own that they want great sex and take responsibility for their own sex lives that amazing sex will happen. What if your sexuality and your relationship with your body became a priority in your life? I am not alone in believing that our sexual arousal, orgasms and pleasure connect us to our own life force energy. It’s the rocket fuel that connects us to our creativity and the deepest parts of ourselves.

  1. Women have given themselves “Pleasure Ceilings”. Way too many women put restrictions on the amount of pleasure they are allowed to have and that holds them back from experiencing what is possible in their own bodies. They have this belief that they can only have one orgasm (that’s enough) or that sex can only happen in a particular way. When you do that, you cut off your ability to freely expand your pleasure experience. You shut yourself down. Maybe your “Pleasure Ceiling” has been taught to you by your family, your past lovers or even friends who might have shamed you for the way you expressed your sexuality. Let go of what you think “sex” should be. Forget comparing and contrasting your sexuality with others. Allow sex to be messy and more of a modern dance than a structured ballet.

Orgasm is all about the build up, learning to let go into receiving, and allowing pleasure ceilings to vanish. Fabulous sex is timeless. It’s about letting go into the rhythm of bodies and breath. Most of us never get to actually see another woman (not an actress) experience sex and have an orgasm. Real sex is too messy for Hollywood. So we are all trying to learn how to have something that we have not entirely ever witnessed. Having orgasms is not an Olympic sport or a competitive game. Instead, sexuality is all about letting go into your own erotic dance where you can be completely yourself.

What if you could allow yourself to be open, free and in celebration of the pleasure, miracle and joy that is unfettered sexual expression? I wonder if you would need a pill then?

I hope there is something here for you.

Loving you from here,
Pamela Madsen

Scarletforyous · 12/06/2024 22:09

@Anthonysimagination Thanks so much for taking the time to post your opinion and that information.
I think I do need to try and give it longer and just lean in to it more. I think I’m realising that part of me was thinking he was doing it just for me and that piece you shared about being afraid you’re taking too long really struck a cord. I feel under pressure in the moment and can’t relax enough to enjoy it. There’s an expectation that I have to show him he’s getting somewhere (that I put on myself) and ironically it ends up as the opposite for me.

The fact that you really enjoy it and get turned on by it makes me realise it’s okay to just see how it goes, that he’s not solely doing it for me and is getting bored waiting for me to finish!
I'm still not sure I’ll ever get my head around it, but it’s great to get these different perspectives

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Anthonysimagination · 13/06/2024 07:17

Hi @Scarletforyous

It sounds like being comfortable with receiving pleasure is something for you to consider and that being able to comfortably relax and receive oral is part of that journey.

Emily Nagoski talks of pleasure being the measure. We found removing the goals and pressures of orgasm for both parties is liberating.Also a reframe of sex for me/us and not sex for him was another breakthrough.

I also would not discount the benefits of a high quality wand vibrator. It’s like the orgasm insurance policy! It is always there to have one should anybody want one!!

I love Palela Madsen but also worth a read if you haven’t already:

Come as you are Emily Nagoski
Come together Emily Nagoski
Mind the Gap Karen Gurney
Shameless sex podcast and book
Coming soon Dania Schifitan (Audible in English)

A bit of effort lol but as many have said on here life is to short to be having sex you not getting the most out of. Hope that helps I’ll leave the rest to the wise woman of MN x

Acesup6995 · 15/06/2024 18:57

Scarletforyous · 12/06/2024 17:44

Interesting perspective. I assumed he was doing it all for me, like I give him oral for his pleasure. What does he get out of it for himself? He used to do it years ago but said he knew I wasn’t mad about it so stopped. We’ve been experimenting with other stuff lately which I’m loving, so it’s reignited his efforts 😂
I’d like to enjoy it, and if I gave it enough time maybe I might but as soon as he’s there, I’m thinking of a different position to go to.
He's very good with his hands so I suppose
that’s what I prefer.

I can’t speak for him but as a guy I can say no going down on a woman is as much if not more enjoyable for me than her. Ok well hopefully more enjoyable for her.
I always found it to be not only the most intimate way a woman could share herself with me but I found that it satisfies and overwhelms all five of my senses in a way nothing else can. Like I literally can get lost in the way a woman tastes, the way she smells, the way she feels and sounds when I lick her and the way she looks looking up at her as I do it. Eye contact during is pure fire by the way. But doing it overwhelms and satisfies all my senses to the point I get lost in her and her pleasure and I swear in doing it I feel her orgasms 10 times more powerfully than any of my own could ever be. That’s what makes me unable to stop once I get going I want to experience her cumming again and again like a roller coaster. Most I ever got was 7 but so out of practice now after years of not being allowed to do it.
So I can guarantee your husband is loving it too. If you post back and relax get out of your head maybe get lost in how much he is enjoying it you may find you are enjoying it too kind of symbiotic and very intimate.
One thing that always annoys me is this notion that gets pushed by other guys and porn that going down on a woman is somehow a submissive act. Like hell it is. If you know how to do it right it is very primal and aggressive and you can push and pull and tease the woman and take her over the edge repeatedly.
Another thing that pisses me off even more is all the products marketed to women that try to convince you that you smell or taste bad. Sweetums flavored wipes and lume and all that. It’s giving women insecurities and complexes to make money off them. But guys like me who love the real taste of a real woman end up suffering when those insecurities that get reinforced by marketing make women unwilling to share themselves with us. We all miss out.
And for the record no combination of lavender or mangoes could ever smell or taste better than original flavor woman. That’s the good stuff.

Acesup6995 · 15/06/2024 19:05

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Thank you. For real. I actually really appreciate somebody understanding my frustration cause most women and men I’ve told how much I miss it have laughed at my problem or shown pity that makes me feel pathetic or blamed me like I can’t satisfy her or don’t know how to do it right so it’s my fault. Not being able to go down on made it very difficult to give my wife orgasms and I’ve had to learn other tricks to get her off but it’s not as reliable or powerful. This has destroyed my self confidence and self esteem and I’ve only just started to get that back as I’ve found other ways to make her cum without being able to go down on her. And to be honest the reality that I’ll never get to taste a woman and experience a woman in that way again has been super hard for me to accept. It sounds silly but it’s true.

So thank you. And your husband or real lucky

Acesup6995 · 15/06/2024 19:10

Anthonysimagination · 13/06/2024 07:17

Hi @Scarletforyous

It sounds like being comfortable with receiving pleasure is something for you to consider and that being able to comfortably relax and receive oral is part of that journey.

Emily Nagoski talks of pleasure being the measure. We found removing the goals and pressures of orgasm for both parties is liberating.Also a reframe of sex for me/us and not sex for him was another breakthrough.

I also would not discount the benefits of a high quality wand vibrator. It’s like the orgasm insurance policy! It is always there to have one should anybody want one!!

I love Palela Madsen but also worth a read if you haven’t already:

Come as you are Emily Nagoski
Come together Emily Nagoski
Mind the Gap Karen Gurney
Shameless sex podcast and book
Coming soon Dania Schifitan (Audible in English)

A bit of effort lol but as many have said on here life is to short to be having sex you not getting the most out of. Hope that helps I’ll leave the rest to the wise woman of MN x

I read that book. It’s great. Sadly I already kinda knew what she was saying. Issue is my wife won’t read any books or go to sex therapy or talk about sex so I’m left trying to interpret her as best I can with little open communication.

Also she is a hard no on vibrators. Bought her a wevibe 8 years ago. It still sits unopened in box in closet. Relationship card game she still won’t play. Kinky dice never used. She’s gone past vanilla to ice milk at this point.

I want sex to be about her pleasure or our pleasure. She is the one who frames it as something to get me off. It’s like I have to fight her mind to give herself permission to cum and trick her body into cumming. I’m always fighting impossible odds. Sometimes I win often the house wins.

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