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Dirty talk, dominance and orgasms.

21 replies

ikeakia · 10/12/2019 16:58

I really love dirty talk and dominance. My ex was very good at both. My current partner isn’t comfortable with either due to lack of experience. Before we got together I got this really filthy vibe from him and thought I was on to a great thing, but he’s actually quite laced up and unadventurous.

I’ve never really done baby steps in this situation as other partners were more confident so does anyone have any tips to build his confidence? He would like to be more able to talk dirty but his mind goes blank. Same for dominance. Where do I point him to to start?

Also orgasms..... I’ve always been able to sort myself out and faked every orgasm in my life until this partner, but he can only make me cum if I get myself to the edge and he then uses oral to finish me off. I’d love to be able to cum through his actions alone or toys. Any recommendations?

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Tucobenedicto · 10/12/2019 22:06

Find a new man

Bluerussian · 10/12/2019 22:11

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waterSpider · 10/12/2019 23:00

You may need to write a "script", or different variations, to start with, on the talking side of things. Maybe you need to do something a bit naughty to get him started?

Any film clips you like - like this one? (not best quality, alas).

Auldspinster · 11/12/2019 03:47

Bluerussian theres nothing wrong with what she's saying this is the sex board.

Guavaf1sh · 11/12/2019 07:08

That’s a bit uncalled for BlueRussian

ikeakia · 11/12/2019 08:40

Bluerussian

Hope you don’t mind me saying, you’re a twat. Not sure what exactly offended you but I hardly think that anything I’ve said is going to shock most on the Sex Board. Hmm

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AloneLonelyLoner · 11/12/2019 09:50

If this is not the case @Bluerussian then I apologise, but maybe they are revolted because it seems like you are trying to push your new man into being someone he is not, encouraging him to service you and basically engage in things which he may find unpleasant has been unable to verbalise?

If not, I dunno.

I would
If I were you OP go and get yourself a new man who is already into what you're into.

noego · 11/12/2019 10:06

I also believe it will be difficult to turn your guy into a master if he is not innately masterful.
It might make him feel really uncomfortable and wouldn't be sustainable.

ikeakia · 11/12/2019 10:10

I’ve been with him 18 months, I don’t want anyone else. Confused. He wants to explore things with me but he has no experience of them and I’ve only been with partners who were already confident so not sure how to ease him into it. It’s something he WANTS to be confident with, I’m not pressuring him.

Not sure where anyone’s got this idea of him ‘servicing’ me. Hmm All I meant was the image he projected prior to us getting together was a more sexually confident one and it was a surprise to find that he’s not had that much experience.

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noego · 11/12/2019 14:43

Watch some BDSM porn together. You choose the porn so it is similar to what you want and see how it feels when you're watching it together.

amiapropermum · 11/12/2019 14:45

Ikeakia I've been in a similar situation where I got a vibe from a partner in the early days that couldn't be further from the truth. We just weren't matched in our sexual preferences and styles. I'm all for talking about these things and trying both person's preferences out once both people are happy to but we just weren't suited sexually and it eventually dwindled to about 5 times a year

xpc316e · 11/12/2019 14:51

I find it disappointing that a person has sought to shame the OP for her sexuality. If you have a different take on what is fun in the bedroom, then please walk on by without trying to cast aspersions. Now that I have said my piece on that, I can proceed.

I feel that there is absolutely nothing wrong in trying to influence your partner into exploring dominance and dirty talk. If he has said that it is something that he specifically does not want to get involved in, then and only then does it become abusive if you continue to pressure him. There is so much fun to be had by doing a bit of exploration in relationships, both in and out of the bedroom. Life would become very boring for me if I didn't try new things with my partner. We love trying new food, different cultures, destinations, etc., so it is entirely natural to think the same way with sex. I cannot imagine spending my sexual life having simple PIV intercourse for all eternity.

I suppose there are two choices of how you might want to proceed: either baby steps, or throwing him in at the deep end. My partner and I have done a mixture of the two over the past few years as our interest in dominance and restraint has grown. I would recommend giving plenty of encouraging feedback to him. If you suggest something and he complies, tell him how good it was for you and that you cannot wait for him to do it again. If you want him to do something and he does it, then tell him how thrilling it was that he did what you asked him to do. Most of us in relationships derive immense pleasure from giving our loved ones sexual satisfaction; it isn't about what we get from sex, it is more about what we can give to others. If such was not the case, we would indulge only in masturbation apart from when we wanted to procreate. Once you adopt that mindset, you tend to be given a great deal of pleasure by your partner. It is a basic human trait that we like to make others happy, so do your best to encourage him.

We all respond differently, but you could find out something that he really likes and use it in reward-based exploration: if he does X to you, you will trade and do Y for him. Have fun, be playful, and laugh in between your moans of pleasure.

I am a trainer in real life and one technique to remember is the way to deliver criticism. If you have something to say that he might take the wrong way, make sure you offer some positive feedback then the bit of criticism and finish it off with another piece of positive feedback.

Talking to each other is a huge part of sex for me and my partner. We watch amateur occasionally and I am genuinely surprised that so few couples communicate while doing the deed. We tell each other how horny the other person makes us feel, I tell her how wet she is, we profess our love for the other person, tell each other how they are the best fuck we have ever had, etc. Silence is not sexy.

Try to communicate your sexual desires while outside the bedroom. Doing it as pillow talk puts him under pressure to actually do it there and then; talking during a meal offers him a chance to express himself.

Why not sit down on the sofa and browse some of the inexpensive equipment to be found online? Tell him how you would love to try x,y, and z. Order some gear and use the time before its arrival to heighten the tension.

You could always do as we did earlier this year and hire a dungeon for the night. We spent an incredible night in a place that was equipped with every conceivable BDSM device. We discovered things about ourselves and each other; we found things and toys we could not wait to try again. Other things we tried and though 'meh', but at least we tried them.

Communicate your desires to him, encourage him, reward him, mould him as you wish - there is nothing wrong in coaching your loved one to be the person you want them to be in bed, as long as they have not expressed a desire to not go where you want to lead them. Take advice from those who have gone down the same road, but pay no heed to the narrow-minded criticism you might receive for your sexual honesty.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that this is also a journey into BDSM for you as well as him. You do not sound like an experienced sub leading him; you come across as someone who is leading him from not that far in front - am I correct? I would urge you to make this exploration fun for the pair of you. An excellent book on BDSM is 'BDSM A Guide For Explorers Of Extreme Eroticism' by Ayzad. It isn't dry, but it goes into all aspects of BDSM and will help you to know exactly what you want for yourself in this adventure.

Best wishes.

xpc316e · 11/12/2019 14:57

If you are close to the capital, you could take him along to the London Alternative Market held on the first Sunday of every month. It is held in a private club and admission is inexpensive. There are free classes for all in the afternoon and a party in the evening. There is a huge selection of BDSM gear for sale and nobody will bat an eyelid at your kinks. Another similar market is held in Birmingham, but I have never been to that one.

j712adrian · 11/12/2019 15:20

BDSM is fine unless you do actually feel physically threatened by it.

Happened to me.

ikeakia · 11/12/2019 16:08

xpc316e

Thank you for that! Very informative and you’re right for the most part, I’m not that experienced in the more intense side of the sub/Dom world. I have more experience than him generally and I’m far more open minded with a good amount of confidence so I have tried most things repeatedly to a soft level.

His issue is solely a confidence one, due to lack of opportunity to practise previously more than anything so he hasn’t got anything to go on. He is far more submissive than me and really struggles with more than a light tap for spanking as he doesn’t want to hurt me so I’m aware I’m unlikely to get him the levels I’ve enjoyed with previous partners and I don’t want him to feel uncomfortable in any way, I just wondered how to attempt to find some kind of middle ground for both of us.

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xpc316e · 11/12/2019 16:22

ikeakia if you read that book together, he will discover that it is really the sub who is in charge and is running the scene. That should give him more confidence. With a correct system of safe words, he will not overstep the mark. The traffic light system for safe words works exceptionally well: green for 'I love that. I want more, and harder', amber for 'I love it, but no harder', and red for 'Stop it'.

Have fun.

ikeakia · 11/12/2019 16:26

Thank you!

Can I ask how on earth you went about hiring a dungeon? Just for future reference. It’s the kind of thing I’d love to do.

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diet4eva · 11/12/2019 18:05

I watched the film 'the secretary' with my partner so he got the idea of what I was trying to explain to him about being turned on by rough play. Maybe you could watch it together?

MisterT373 · 11/12/2019 18:27

@ikeakia

Same as everything else - you Google BDSM Dungeon Hire.

There might be one nearer than you thought.

xpc316e · 11/12/2019 18:31

ikeakia, just google dungeon hire and take your pick from the results. We used the one in Reading and found it amazing. The owner, Mike, was very welcoming and gives you a comprehensive tour of the facilities. We had an overnight hire, but shorter time periods are available. The range of equipment is staggering; his website does not do justice to the place.

lavitaedura · 12/12/2019 16:50

We have been married for 30 plus years and are both in our mid'ish 50's. It turns out that we both enjoy this type of situation although we came to it quite late. The dominance is restricted to the bedroom and works very well for both of us. The talk has proved to be more tricky. My wife said that she would like feedback as I was very quiet. She was right and initially it was not easy or natural for me. We hit on the solution of me talking outside of the bedroom. I have always complimented her on her dress, looks etc. in fact everyday so we added in 'dirty' compliments on a regular basis. After a time this became quite normal and has gone some way to providing a solution.

Good luck

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