The UK to block internet porn nationwide.

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This video sums it up pretty briefly:

First they banned videos depicting female orgasm, now this. Why do they feel the need to invest in such pointless endeavours. They say it's to protect the children but we all know that teenagers can easily get around these blocks via VPNS.

It feels to me more like they're trying to impose conservative values onto a population that largely hasn't asked for this.

Doesn’t bother me

I have no issue with porn but it’s not a necessity. For those who are that desperate to watch it, they’ll find a way to access it regardless of any ‘bans’.

Despite not having an issue with porn as an adult, in terms of protecting children and teenagers I do agree that this is probably a positive thing. Not all kids will know how to get around bans

Most teenagers know how to get free music of the internet despite UK's pathetic attempts to block that. You can bet your bottom penny that they'll know how to get around the porn block. The information is freely available in the news. VPNs and proxies, many which are free and easy to use.

However those adults aiming to follow the law will be giving up their personal fetish taste information to a private company that already has a history of abusing people's personal information in a nefarious way. I suggest you watch the video to understand what I'm talking about.

Will this new law stop young children stumbling across porn by mistake?
If yes, then it’s surely a good thing.

Good

The less young people can easily access images of women being abused on film the better.
I don't care if it is a minor inconvenience to adults.
If they are embarrassed by the idea that people will know what they are watching, perhaps they should consider why that is.

FWIW if I needed to see people being sexually abused and exploited in order to have a wank, I'd feel embarrassed too.

Did you 2 even watch the video? You both sound incredibly ignorant.

This porn ban does not restrict kids accidentally coming across porn what so ever. If they're on reddit, or almost any other forum, there will still be people posting porn in private groups. And you can be sure, kids end up on those groups, often seeking harmless things, but end up finding porn. There.

As for those who desire to actually find porn, they'll end up finding far worse things on the sites that don't comply with the British laws.

What will happen is it will enable the UK government to start banning all manner of other things totally unrelated to porn, since the law can be used in other ways too. But I'm sure you don't care about that since you are too busy giving yourself a fear mongered scare.

So sorry you don't approve of my opinion OP , must go and weep now.

Of course there will be work arounds.
Just like people are still buy illegal drugs, work cash in hand, or claim excess expenses.

It doesn't mean that the rules shouldn't exist.

Go post your MRA nonsense on reddit where no doubt you'll find a bunch of unwashed basement dwelling incels to applaud you.

A good idea to try to block adolescents watching porn since much of it is truly vile. I would try and do something about that as well. Adults who want to will still be able to watch.

I'll ask you again, did you even watch the video? The responses I'm getting here indicates to me none of you did. If you had, you might not be reacting the way you are as you'd see the company you're rewarding is actually the owner of most porn tube sites.

You seem to be very hostile and aggressive WarisPeace, why is this? You've come to the conclusion that I'm some porn lover. I never said this.

Disagreeing with a man = hostile and aggressive

"Go post your MRA nonsense on reddit where no doubt you'll find a bunch of unwashed basement dwelling incels to applaud you." = hostile and aggressive. The fact that you still haven't looked at the video and can't even see how what you post comes off shows how far removed you are from reality.

I've watched it and agree ,it will cause more harm than good.
This is a good video about porn, it's becoming more socially acceptable which could be very dangerous in the future.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9pPgIraoOM

Wnedyhouse, yes that video you linked is very good. I've seen it before. Unfortunately most of the folks who have responded to this post are much like the women who outlawed alcohol in the USA back in the 1920's. Their fearful poorly thought out knee jerk reaction will only serve to make things more dangerous for their children. They seem less interested in actually protecting their children but instead but rather, they'd prefer to perpetuate fear and sling insults.

It’s a difficult topic for me. I’ve been in a relationship with a serious porn addict which ended up being extremely abusive sexually, and very damaging to my mental health. I was also raped and / or sexually assaulted by previous partners who were regular (ab)users of porn. I absolutely detest pornography as a result and can think of few things that are a greater threat to the developing sexuality, empathy and sexual equality of our children. I wish it could be wiped off the face of the earth and I know that it’s only going in one direction - more of it, more extreme, easier to access. I do think that a plan that makes it more difficult for children to access hardcore pornography with a quick search is necessary.

Also, saying they banned porn featuring female orgasm is disingenuous. They banned porn containing female ejaculation which is not the same thing because
a) female ejacuiation is not an orgasm, they are independent things. Trying to make female performers to ejaculate on cue for the benefit of male viewers makes me very uncomfortable
b) mainstream porn is never remotely concerned with a woman’s orgasm unless it’s framed in the way of a fetish for the male viewer (eg female ejaculation)
c) I wish they would ban theatrical performative female orgasms since it’s completely fucking misleading
d) it’s not banned - anyone who wants to access any of this stuff can, it just can’t be produced in the U.K. any more
e) it’s interesting (and as I say, disingenuous) that you’ve singled out female orgasm from the list of banned content, much of which is abusive, extreme or violent, just to make your point. For anyone not in the know, you’ve made it sound like the government has singled out female orgasm as being something too shocking to show in porn - you know that’s not the case.

On the other hand, I don’t think this plan will be effective. I don’t think most children will bother with VPNs and Tor, but any who do bother will then have access to even more concerning content.

I don’t think it’s a good idea to give a private company details so that they can create a database of everyone in the U.K. who watches porn (although many porn sites require at least sign up, if not credit card details, so it seems many are happy to hand over their details already to access porn).

I would much rather that:

1. everyone were given an online passport that removes access to certain sites to under 18s
2. Sites that contain porn having to use specific domain suffixes so that they can be more easily blocked, and any site without that domain suffix posting adult content be dealt with very harshly
3. governments try harder to tackle the issues around VPNs and the dark web
4. improving sex Ed in schools to counteract the very damaging content of hardcore porn on the brain, especially the developing brain

Short of removing all traces of porn from the internet which will never happen, I’m not sure how else to tackle it.

I don’t think this current plan will be wholly effective but I do think it will have some positive effects - it’s just that there are also negative ones which don’t seem to have been thought through.

I know my views may seem extreme to some, particularly those who see porn as a bit of fun. My experiences make me see it very differently indeed. It’s incredibly damaging and something needs to be done about the acessibility and prevalence of it.

Deathgrip, I have a few things to say in response to your post.

I too have had bad encounters with porn addicts and can see how most mainstream porn ind destructive.

I have also had encounters with people who prefer sex positive adult entertainment. Men who don't enjoy misogynistic material.

I am able to have have "fountain orgasms" under the right circumstances. I think if such things were handled in a genuine way in porn, rather than fake ones on command, it wouldn't be a problem. So I understand where you're coming from, but I don't think it's fair that they band production of female ejaculations but not male. Men are made to cum on cue to and yet you're not complaining about that. It's a double standard.

I agree about improving sex ed in school.

Banning VPN's would be the worst thing the UK could do. VPN's serve a vital purpose in this day and age. If we ban them, we're not different than China or Turkey.

I didn’t say we should ban VPNs. I am saying that the problem with VPNs is that they can abused to access content that shouldn’t be accessed, and that’s the issue. The possibilities for dealing with this issue are endless but nobody wants to tackle it.

“Sex positive adult entertainment” is a tiny fraction of what’s available and really not the issue.

They haven’t banned female orgasms - female ejaculation has nothing to do with orgasms, and while it can happen simultaneously, it can also happen independently from orgasms. Like I say, the overwhelming majority of porn has no interest in the female orgasm (which isn’t banned but wouldn’t need to be because they don’t feature). And female ejaculation isn’t “banned” either - it’s just that films now made in the U.K. now can’t legally include it, alongside a long list of other things.

You cannot compare female ejaculation to male ejaculation, they are two completely different things. Have a look at some accounts from former porn stars of what lengths they and producers have to go through to get the right kind of “squirting” and you’ll see my point.

This has nothing to do with discriminating against female pleasure - they’re not banning the production of porn that includes women having orgasms. In this instance and some of the others that have been banned, it’s about the physical impact of these acts or of getting a specific physical response out of performers. The issue here is not female performers who are getting so much out of the sex that they happen to ejaculate. Surely you do realise this - if not, why do you think they’ve singled this out in particular?

They also outlawed face sitting. What good reason did they have to ban that? Many people are into that kink and weren't hurting anyone. Why do I think they outlawed these things? The same reason many old MALE conservatives ban things they feel uncomfortable about. Meanwhile many of these same conservatives privately seek out worse kinky behaviour themselves. Both the UK and USA have a long powerful conservative men dictating what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their own home.

" I am saying that the problem with VPNs is that they can abused to access content that shouldn’t be accessed". Ah yes, things like Winnie the Pooh, the word democracy, Tinamen Square Massacre, etc. Or to get around regional blocks on youtube or fore blocks on world news that aren't available in the USA, or in the UK. Or to get around regional blocks on overpriced plane tickets.

The whole purpose of a VPN is to get around what "Big brother" doesn't want us to see. For example, on this very forum someone wrote ""I was arrested for harassment and malicious communications because I called someone out and misgendered them on Twitter," Scottow later wrote on the online forum Mumsnet." While I personally don't agree with online bullying, I also don't support the real life police arresting people at their homes for saying "mean things".

What I've noticed here is a lot of mums who are oh so eager to have the government take away their liberties.

In case you didn't get the Winnie the Pooh reference, that's a banned word in China. If you try to look it up, the police will pay you a visit.

Wow.

Based on my previous comment, have a little think about why face sitting would be banned in porn now made in the U.K.

Use your brain. Nothing is “outlawed”, FFS. You can still watch all the face sitting porn you desire, and you can make as much face sitting porn as you want, just not in the U.K.

You’re desperately trying to paint the situation differently than it is, which means you have an agenda. They have not banned videos depicting female orgasms, they’re banned the production of videos featuring female ejaculation.

You’ve addressed none of the points I made in response, and are now just wittering nonsense. I said that the issue with VPNs is that they can be used to access dangerous content with anonymity, not that they shouldn’t be used at all.

It’s not about being eager to give up civil liberties. It’s about balancing civil liberties with safety, which is pretty crucial.

Here is a question, are people in the UK allowed to practice face sitting or female ejaculation as long as they don't do it sell or share videos of it?

Regarding VPN's and dangerous content, what is dangerous? Who is to decide, you? The British Government? I, and many others have zero confidence in them having our own best interests in mind. "police FINE pedestrian £90 for disorderly behaviour after he tries to cover his face from facial recognition camera on the streets of London".

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7036141/Police-fine-pedestrian-90-facial-recognition-camera-row.html?ito=fbmessenger_share_article-bottom&fbclid=IwAR3qb1PslbYV_mo4fx-zGeP125FbdjGPzC2mQvPRdw0zEcFTyCIbUnUTdq4

What is your agenda here?

You know that what individuals choose to do consensually in private is a) unaffected by this law and b) a very different scenario when someone is being paid to perform. I suppose the right to a safe workplace / job isn’t relevant for sex workers?

As for your Daily Mail link, “After being stopped the man became aggressive and made threats towards officers. He was issued with a penalty notice for disorder as a result”

So not fined for covering his face was he?