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sexless relationship advice for a man please

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liftmeup07 · 18/12/2017 23:58

So I would like some female perspective please.

I am a man in a sexless relationship. A situation that's been forced on me and is not my choice. I have what I would call a healthy sex drive. I feel a few times a month at least is fine. After all work and social commitments mean more than that is impractical.

Everything in my relationship with my partner (early 40s) was fine until about 3 years ago when a healthy love life started to dwindle and moaning turned from the good kind to the bad.

My partner started to pick holes in virtually everything I did, said and wore. At first sex went from a couple of times a week to a couple of times a month and then once a couple of months until now for the last 2 years we have made love 3 times a year.

My partner goes to bed and flicks through ebay or Facebook on an ipad. When we are together in the house, she is on the ipad.

I cook, clean, share the house hold chores, do all the things a man of today should do, but now feel I am just a room mate. It is crushing me. I feel so sad and lonely, which I shouldn't feel.

What can I do? I have tried talking and it goes nowhere. I have tried being happy go lucky, but that can only last so long with a crushed spirit. I'm not a sex addict or after anything kinky or weird, but when we talk I am made to feel like I am only after 1 thing.

I don't want to leave, but at the moment, I don't want to stay. I could use some advice, support and guidance if that's possible.

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user1465893880 · 19/12/2017 00:35

Each partner has an equal responsibility in a relationship. The partnership survives or ends through the actions or inactions of each.

You don't get to set the frequency of intimacy. Your desires are no more or less important than hers.

The level of sexual relations is to be shared. It's for both of you to accommodate this.

From what you have said there is no genuine effective communication between you. Either that gets solved or the relationship will suffer.

You can't make someone communicate. They are either willing or not. If they are not willing than you've to make a decision based on that.

Best of luck.

lostincumbria · 19/12/2017 07:58

This isn't about sex.

My partner started to pick holes in virtually everything I did, said and wore.

Sounds like she barely likes you, let alone loves you.

Stop thinking about sex, look long and hard at your relationship. Talk to your partner (but not about sex). What does she want? What do you want?

Good luck.

Wherearemymarbles · 19/12/2017 10:12

Sounds like she is no longer in to you.

Time to call it a day, it wont get any better

OfficerGrant · 19/12/2017 13:37

Talk with her. Find out what's going on. Could she be perimenopausal and her hormones are affecting her mood?
Definitely don't mention sex!

Mimsy123 · 19/12/2017 15:20

It sounds like an awful situation. I’m not saying she is, but could she be getting it elsewhere?
Maybe treat her to a romantic weekend away, with no distractions, just the two of you.

Italiangreyhound · 19/12/2017 15:31

I'd suggest marriage counselling. Do you have kids? Your wide seems to have lost interest in you. Which is very sad. I am afraid not everyone feels the same way about sex we are not all as interested in it as each other. But it sounds like your wife is not only uninterested in sex she is also not interested in you.

I am sorry. That must be very tough. You only get one life be you both deserve to be happy. Try and work this out together. If she is really not interested would you consider leaving her?

Good luck. Flowers

Italiangreyhound · 19/12/2017 15:32

wife not wide!

Ps how long have you been together and roughly how old are you?

liftmeup07 · 19/12/2017 17:07

Thanks for the comments

I am late 40s she is early 40s. I understand it is not really about sex, nothing like this ever is. Sex is just the symptom of something bigger.

She is loving and kind of affectionate most of the time, so I don;t think she is getting it elsewhere, and I would never cheat, I just don't have it in me. She worries about everything. Being premenopausal is just one of them, but that's all she does - worries - she never goes to see anyone to confirm it. Meanwhile I have tried talking, but it's not easy when I get promises of change and nothing happens. I have basically shut down. I walk around miserable, which probably doesn't help, afterall who wants to make love with a miserable old git. But I have tried being happy, tried being supportive, tried being sexy, tried compliments and nothing works.

This is a direct question to the women here: If your husband/bf etc was obviously unhappy, would you blame him for being moody or take a look at the relationship and work out you need to do something?

Sorry if that's a direct question, but I am falling down a pit and see only one way out that I do not want to take.

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lostincumbria · 19/12/2017 20:25

Sorry, liftmeup, you say you know it's not about sex, but you're the one who came into onto a sex forum. Maybe try the main Relationships board for a broader audience?

TheNaze73 · 19/12/2017 21:15

What’s the point of a relationship without sex? You may as well be housemates. Bin her off

Italiangreyhound · 19/12/2017 21:21

If she is affectionate but you two are not having sex, maybe it is about sex.

I'll be very honest here, sex is not everyone's cup of tea, could she just have gone off it? Is she willing to talk about it?

If my relationship was failing/ broken, if I, or dh, perceived it as failing/broken, I would want to fix it.

I went off sex for a bit, I read a lot about people's partners not wanting it (on Mumsnet) and I could understand that. But I love my partner and I'm happy to have sex. I kind of had to get back into it, so to speak.

I think you really need to know what the issue is, is it you, or sex or sex with you? I am not sure how this cannot, at least in part, be about sex!

Italiangreyhound · 19/12/2017 21:23

But I would also post under relationships.

Ps do you have kids, does she want kids? And do you know what she is worried about 're menopause?

OfficerGrant · 19/12/2017 22:09

Aha if she is a worrier then there is hope!
Is she happy to worry? Or does she not want to worry all the time? Might seem an odd question. But if she wants to not worry then she can change how she thinks. I was like that. My gp sent me on a cbt course. I went coz I was desperate to break out of feeling awful. And blimey it really bloody worked! I was amazed. It's still a struggle at times, but I can tell my dh what's worrying me and he helps me think it through.

So, if she wants to change worrying all the time really do try cbt.

Hope that helps

Joey7t8 · 20/12/2017 06:21

It's already been pointed out above that this isn't about sex; she just no longer fancies you. This is more of a relationship issue.

Is there anything that has changed about your physical appearance during the past few years that you could actively do something about? Have you put on a significant amount of weight for example?

AlmostGivenUp · 20/12/2017 07:09

Hello LiftMeUp
I know you have asked for female perspective on this, but I read your post and the thread and thought I'd give you my thoughts as I've been through very similar with my wife.

We're both early 40's. Together 20+ years, married 15+ years. Four children. Both very much in love with each other. Financially secure. Keep ourselves in good shape. Both have hobbies that keep us busy. Share admin, childcare and housework.

I strongly agree with a few things already mentioned above. Firstly, communication looks like it's by far the biggest issue here. Second, if and when you do get to the bottom of what is going on, there are likely to be bigger issues – as you say the effect on sex will more than likely be the symptom. Third, this thread is probably better placed in "Relationships" rather than "Sex". However, love, intimacy and sex are so very intertwined (though not necessarily dependent) that it’s understandable why you posted here. I would suggest getting admin/mods to move to Relationships.

As I say, we've been married for 15+ years. Sadly, we've experienced our challenges for more than half that time. Bringing up four happy, healthy children has been a great joy but very hard work as most parents would agree. We have had issues with communication, intimacy and making time for our relationship. I have withdrawn physically because I have very little say in our love life. Bizarrely, pure sex can be mind blowingly good, however for me, intimacy and closeness are just as important if not more so.

My wife lost someone very close to her a number of years ago and together with a busy work and family life, time together as a couple dwindled and the relationship has suffered. I have always been keen to invest in the relationship. But have seen less and less desire from my wife to do so. Getting her to go away for a few days, which we have done several times, is a huge challenge of persuasion even though I sort out all the trips, childcare etc. I have led almost all attempts to address our challenges but I really don't want to drag someone along on a journey that they don't have desire for.

Unfortunately, she finds it very hard to talk about difficult things and just stonewalls me. I've asked myself and her, whether she simply isn't interested in me as a partner, lover or companion anymore, whether she has someone else, or wants someone else. I've assured her that, if this was the case, I'd prefer it if we went our separate ways and worked together to bring the children up as best we can. We have made a pact that we will do our best for them together. Financially, we will be fine to do so separately.

Over the years, my self-esteem has suffered hugely as a result. I’m now getting self-esteem back by focussing on my own self-worth and happiness.

The perplexing thing has been the realisation that she lives in fear of us splitting up, but doesn’t seem to want to put the effort into our relationship. What I’ve found out recently, and we’ve worked out together, is that she simply doesn’t have the emotional capacity to put into the relationship. She has admitted that she worries from one forthcoming event to the next. The current ‘event’ is Christmas. The next one that she knows she will be fretting about is a forthcoming weeklong school trip for one of our children (child looking forward to it a lot!) - and so on so on. She is the most amazing mother to our children and I think most things (not all) that she frets about revolve around not delivering the same happy childhood that she experienced, to our children. She will not accept external help with the house or children.

The reason I’ve gone into so much detail here is because i) the seem to be a few parallels to your story and ii) finding all this out has taken over half the marriage - that has been highly damaging. These challenges to be dealt with constructively or the marriage WILL continue to suffer. However, if someone will not communicate, you can’t force them, much as you might get frustrated.

Whilst some can live their lives like this, personally I can’t. If they won’t communicate, we must set our own boundaries and limits. You too must be honest & open with your wife and brave for yourself in setting and sticking to your own boundaries, no matter how scary they are.

Feel free to PM me Good luck.

liftmeup07 · 20/12/2017 10:28

AlmostGivenUp thank you for sharing your story. There are so many parallels to mine. It helped a lot with perspective.

I am sorry if I posted this in the wrong section. It started out as a question as to why my sex life went from good to non existent. And it has helped me massively. I have had a bad week with Christmas coming and everyone else around seemingly having a great time and me feeling so frustrated I could burst.

So thank you everyone who has posted. It has helped a lot.

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Italiangreyhound · 20/12/2017 21:15

AlmostGivenUp I am so sorry to read about your struggles 're wife and communication. You sound like you are putting so much in.

The irony is by focussing I. The kids so much your wife seems to be risking her marriage, which is really sad.

Some people do worry a lot! I had anxiety 20 Yeats ago and I had CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) for it, on the NHS and it stopped. So really agree with OfficerGrant.

GiveMeSomeSpace · 20/12/2017 22:48

Thanks for the kind words Italiangreyhound

From a purely selfish perspective I'm actually quite sanguine about the situation - which ever way it goes, together or not, I think things will work out in the end. I've been through the frustration, sadness, acceptance cycle and most of the time can keep myself positive.

However, when I think of the children, I just can't bear the thought of the upheaval. Like most, I struggle with this piece of the jigsaw.

Italiangreyhound · 21/12/2017 06:06

It's sad tour wife fears your leaving but doesn't seem to want to change this situation. I wish you and OP all the best.

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