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Unconditional offer now changed to Conditional

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PrincessTippyToes · 18/05/2010 00:13

Help please, uncommunicative DS! Have helped him complete student finance form online and was horrified to see that his unconditional offer (which he accepted) has been changed to a conditional offer. Says a letter came telling him too may unconditionals offered so they withdrew his and made it conditional!! Do unis do this or am I being fobbed off? Please help. Can't get much sense out of DS.

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MmeTrueBlueberry · 18/05/2010 07:07

I thought the offer and acceptance was a very firm two-way contract.

This is worth following up.

Lilymaid · 18/05/2010 16:30

Are there new conditions? Presuming your DS has already got his A Levels/other qualification,if the place has been offered as unconditional via UCAS, that should be final. Has he submitted his exam certificates to the university?

titchy · 18/05/2010 16:47

An unconditioanl offer is a contract. It should not be changed. Pursue...

snowmash · 18/05/2010 18:19

Ask DS for the letter? (or has he given it to you).

LadyLapsang · 18/05/2010 19:12

Sounds odd. If he needed to submit information, did he do it in time? Did you get a print out or other proof (letter) of his unconditional offer?

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PrincessTippyToes · 18/05/2010 20:01

Hi, I viewed his offers on UCAS tracking about a month ago and it was definitely an unconditional. Stupidly didn't keep a print out (too much reliance on email and system). Have a letter from the Uni offering unconditional. However, phoned UCAS today and in broad terms they told me that he'd never had an unconditional and I "must be confused". I resisted the temptation to argue and will now have son with me when I call again. Will also speak to Uni to find out. Should have kept a print out of the screen but ......
Thank you for all your replies. Much appreciated. Not much hair left to pull out now. A few more strands and I will be totally round the twist. Student finance are another kettle of fish. Instead of his DSA forms they've sent him Child care grant forms! Infamy Infamy! They've all got it Infamy! I'm still smiling.

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lazymumofteenagesons · 18/05/2010 20:46

The offer letters should be on the UCAS tracking thingummy. If you click on this offer now does it display the conditional offer only? It is a contract and having accepted their unconditional offer no changes should be allowed on either side. However, Unconditional offers where A levels have not yet been taken are very unusual. Was this very unexpected? If he has taken his A levels already what is the condition?

snowmash · 19/05/2010 14:27

UCAS would (in general terms) keep a copy of correspondence that has passed through them.

As lazymum says, it is a contract.

Unless it was certain (not all) foundation courses, some achievement at level 3 is needed for an unconditional offer.

Good luck!

LadyLapsang · 20/05/2010 18:23

Now I'm glad I made DS print all the screens with all the offers before he confirmed the one(s) he wanted - he thought I was totally anal!

silver73 · 21/05/2010 16:01

Any news?

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PrincessTippyToes · 21/05/2010 21:19

Hi Everyone, Thanks for your responses. Looked into this a bit further and appears that unconditional offers usually only go to those who have the results! Still doesn't alter the fact that he had one and now he doesn't and snotty woman on UCAS told me I was confused. Have spoken to DS who tells me not to worry as he'll get the grades anyway. I told him we'd speak to the Uni but he wasn't having any of it. So - guess it's time for mum to back off and let him get on with it. Well done Ladylapsang for keeping print screens. I'm afraid all we mums must be slightly crazy by now. Fingers crossed for decent A level results in August. Thanks again everyone. Princesstippytoes

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Becsc · 29/07/2010 11:39

Hi similar problem, uni changed terms of son's conditional offer he had in Jan. He knows his grades already as his work (Btec) has been moderated. Got the grades for original but short for new offer. But can they do this? I thought it was a contact?

JaneS · 29/07/2010 13:05

That is terrible! I'm sure they can't take it back now you have a letter. When I went up to university in 2003, my university made me an offer they hadn't intended (they made it conditional on 3As including general studies and had intended to make it conditional on 3As excluding general studies). Back then, both UCAS and the university were very clear that the offer was still binding and I was entitled to hold them to it.

JaneS · 29/07/2010 13:08

Btw, I think he must email the university. He simply needs to say that he received a letter offering him an unconditional place, but the UCAS website now has different information. It is really important that he get in touch now, it'd be a right pain sorting it all out if (god forbid) he doesn't get his grades, because if that happens the university will be very, very busy.

BlackandGold · 30/07/2010 16:35

And if I read correctly you mentioned him applying for DSA?

I would recommend turning this around as soon as he gets his application form as appts get booked up quickly in some areas.

Best of luck :-)

mumeeee · 30/07/2010 17:39

If he had already accepted the offer than it should not be changed. DD2's uni accidently put her down as defreing her year. We managed to phone the uni and get it sorted it was just an admin mistake. She started last September as planned.

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