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Jesson Data - predicting GCSE outcomes.

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magentadreamer · 17/03/2010 18:22

My DD's school use Jesson data to predict outcomes at GCSE. Does anyone know how they calculate the score each child gets? I know they only use Yr6 SATs scores but I was wondering if it was the same points as you see on the dfes websire regarding points for levels - eg level3 21 points level 4 27 points and level 5 33 points. DD's best friends Mum was asking me as the school will not budge on her DD's GCSE banding and thinks it's been calculated wrong. I've looked at various sites and my brain hurts

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CardyMow · 18/03/2010 00:50

I was wondering this, as my DD is SN, and although her primary forced her to sit her Y6 sats last year, sh didn't achieve a level in any of them as she was still working on p-scales. So when they do my dd's predicted gcse grades, what will they base them on?

admission · 18/03/2010 22:54

Loudlass,
Sorry I have never heard of Jesson data, so can't help there.
If you child was working on p scales then they are working at below level 1. My guess would be that the secondary school will not make any predictions of GCSE levels, until they have much more detail on how your child is progressing.
I am surprised that the primary school expected someone who was working at p scale level to take the KS2 tests, they would normally be disapplied. Do the school think that they are not performing at the level that they believe that they are capable of?

CardyMow · 18/03/2010 23:14

admission, long story between the primary SenCo and myself, wasn't what I wanted, when DD sat the tests, SenCo was telling me that DD was working on a low lvl 3. When DD was assessed by the EP only 2 weeks later, it was shown that DD WAS still working on p-scales, as I believed. Great school, eh?? .

Kez100 · 22/03/2010 11:58

A lot is going to depend on why she is where she is and I'n not sure advice like that is possible on a general forum.

My son was nearly disapplied from SATS writing due to his dyslexia but he refused to be disapplied because he didn't want to be treated differently and did manage a level 3C. He got a 4B in reading. (and a 5B in science). He has just gone into year 7 and has not been given any GCSE predictions but has been given year 9 predictions based on early secondary assessments. He has a prediction of 6c for his English which blew me away...however, they believe with technological support to overcome his dyslexia he has every liklihood of reaching the target because he is a clever lad and has good speaking skills.

I do hope your daughters secondary are able to find relevany support for her and enable her to thrive.

Kez100 · 22/03/2010 12:42

The above post was in reply to loudlass. Apologies for being clearer.

Minx179 · 26/03/2010 15:41

Loudlass

I agree with Kez, there does appear to be a lot going on, have you spoken to ACE, IPSEA?

Presumably your child has a statement? What support do/can they access in school?

Unfortunately schools/external agencies don't always agree;

Magentadreamer

Never heard of Jesson but heres a link to how FFT works with Key Stage progress, which informs target levels. www.fischertrust.org/downloads/dap/Technical_Papers/FFT_Technical_Paper_1_-_FFT_estimates_for MakingGoodProgressIndicators.pdf

We received GCSE target/prediction in Jan, child started yr10 in Sept. Schools are reluctant to change, we managed to get one of my sons predictions lowered from c>d>e, (though we're still very dubious about how realistic the others are). Try googling transitions on teachernet, you may find something there. (Higher levels can prevent the child accessing help - and it's there fault when they fail to meet the predicted target; detrimental for the teacher and the pupil.)

Buy The Parents Guide to SEN and disability Discrimination in School from www.bpec.net

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