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Would you move your child to a different school in this situation?

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Madmentalbint · 22/12/2008 08:46

DD1 went to our catchment comp. Not the best school in the area, but when we looked around we liked the atmosphere and the teaching staff seemed friendly and dedicated. DD1 also wanted to stay with her friends from primary. DD1 has since done very well at this school,is in her final year and expected to do very well.

DD2 followed in DD's footsteps and is now yr8. DD2 is dyslexic and has very low self esteem. Lots of help and support given in year 7 but not so in yr8. DD in bottom set for everything with some very disruptive children. She also doesn't have the benefit of the good teachers who seem to be reserved for top sets. DD barely does any work all day except in one lesson where the teacher is excellent and always differentiates the work. Most of her work is left unchecked and unmarked, and most days she writes nothing more than the title. She doesn't get the learning support she's supposed to have and doesn't often have access to a TA. It seems as long as she isn't disruptive they are happy to leave her at the back of the class doing nothing. DD has become very demotivated and unhappy and asking to change school. Has also started having trouble with a bully. Have spoken to school on several occassions about both issues. Pointless! Was told I was expecting too much (!) and with regards to the bullying "I'll see what I can do, but at the end of the day, what can I do?"

I'm not expecting lots of written work, but I do expect her work to be fairly consisent and marked! I know what she is capable of because she consistently produces excellent work in one lesson. In the other lessons she's just left to do nothing and they don't ask/expect more from her.

The schools last Ofsted report (made after DD2 given her place) picked up on problems related to teaching children with SEN (lack of planning) and not good enough access to LS in KS3. Went ahead and sent DD2 there as no places available elsewhere locally. Now thinking maybe she would be better of somewhere else.

I recently applied to a full school in the next town with a much better Ofsted report and excellent SEN provision. Was expecting to be on the waiting list for months and really only applied in case things don't improve at current school. Was also under pressure from DD who is desparate to move schools. Anyway, a place has come up already! We're meeting the head and the SENCo in the new year, but it's a bit sudden and I'm worried I could be doing the wrong thing. DD is desparate to change school but I'm worried about how hard it might be for her.

Do I jump ship now, while we have the chance, or give up the place and wait and see what happens at current school?

Sorry it's so looooong!

OP posts:
annh · 05/01/2009 18:38

Don't have time to post fully but your friend is talking rubbish. If it's so important for your dd2 to attend the same school as her sister, what will she do next year when your older daughter has left school?

BitOfFun · 05/01/2009 18:55

Teachers aren't God, they don't always have the right answers! I must admit that when I saw the title of your OP I did think that in general, problems like bullying often follow the child, and that moving schools is rarely the solution. I soon changed my mind on reading your post though. Bullying doesn't seem to be the main issue (and with nice friends, it sounds like your dd doesn't have a fundamental problem with being able to socialize etc anyway), but the school's attitude.

Your teacher friend may be happy with the school, but I'm sure she would have something to say if it was her daughter doing nothing but write the title at the top of her paper. SEN provision is so important, and I really agree with the others here who say stick to your guns!

senua · 05/01/2009 21:45

I think that the teacher/friend's comment is a bit of a red herring. I bet you 'championed' the school when it was just DD1 there. I'll bet that DD1 and teacher/friend's children are pretty similar, academically speaking - DD2 is a different kettle of fish and the school that suited DD1 doesn't suit DD2.

However, I would counsel against jumping out of the frying pan into the fire. You can go from school 1 to school 2, but you can't then go to school 3, 4, ...
You must be sure in your own mind before you make this commitment. Treat it as you would if you were back in Y6, trying to make a decision about two possible secondary schools. Draw up a list of pro's and cons.
Will the new school do a taster day so that DD2 can get a feel for the reality of the new school instead of her hoped-for, imaginary, cure-all school?

Berries · 05/01/2009 22:47

If it helps, we moved dd2 in y4 because of bullying, the problems didn't follow her & it was the best move we could have made. It was also something dd2 desperately wanted to do which helped.

Good luck with your decision.

bluejelly · 05/01/2009 22:51

I think you are doing the right thing. A fresh start can do wonders for adults and children.
Go for it

Madmentalbint · 06/01/2009 14:36

Thank you all for your replies
I know you're right and that just because this neighbour is a teacher it doesn't mean she knows what is best for my daughter. I've just had so much conflicting advice over the past few months (some of it unasked for!) that now I'm in such a muddle but I know how important it is to get this right. I do feel that my daughter has got a good understanding of the implications of moving school and therefore her wishes should definitely be considered. I think it just made me question everything when someone said they think I am doing the wrong thing.

I'm meeting the head of year at the potential school with my daughter on Friday for a chat and a look around. I think then, when I know exactly what the school is like and what support they can offer my daughter, it'll be much easier to make a decision. I want to make sure it's not the frying pan and fire situation!

Thanks again

OP posts:
bluejelly · 07/01/2009 22:26

Good luck and let us know how it goes

pasturesnew · 07/01/2009 22:39

Agree with the move her comments. The experience of being in even a really good comprehensive school can be completely different depending on whether you are in a top set or a bottom set, it's almost like you're talking about 2 different schools. Good luck on Friday, hope you and DD like the new school.

tatt · 21/01/2009 12:52

let your child try it, you can always move her back.

Your child may face bullying issues in a new school but firstly that doesn't always happen and secondly some schools nip bullying in the bud rapidly while others do nothing about it.

Moving your child sends a message that you will support them in what they want and will not tolerate them being mistreated.

batters · 21/01/2009 12:57

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Fennel · 21/01/2009 13:02

Yes, I would. If the new school seems better on these aspects and dd2 is keen to try it.

And it will make dd feel you take her unhappiness seriously.

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