Any Senior School Teachers about?

[MrsWeasleyLovesSantasSack]

Life with DD (aged 13) is an ongoing battle but its way to long to print it all here.

Just had a conversation re English Homework where DD insists that her English teacher told the class to go onto sparknotes and just copy what it says about the characters of Animal Farm. (They have been reading this book for the last two week!) My response was no teacher would tell a class to cut and paste. DD is adament and even told me to check with the school.

OK so am I being naive and do teachers (at a good school (latest Ofsted:Outstanding) ) really tell pupils to copy and paste off the internet?

Truth needed please, I can take it

Thanks

I can;t imagine she would say copy, she may have said research this is often taking to mean copy and paste.

What do you think? Do you honestly think anyone would tell a teenager to plagiarise?

Well I think DD is talking a load of cr*p but am aware that when I was at school we didnt have internet access and therefore things have changed! I work at a primary school and the children dont use the internet very often. This also isnt the only time she has said this sort of thing.
I just thought I would ask MN before I ring the school on Monday just in case I was living in the dark ages.

You could just tell her not to do that with SparkNotes. And not bother the school. It's unlkely, I think, that the teacher said that. And if she did, she is wrong. Like Twinset said, the teacher might have said that SparkNotes was a useful resource. Personally, I think she should read teh book and make some notes. But that's how dark ages I am.

Also the constant battles with DD is exhausting. see here if you dare!

nfk Thats my thinking, they have been reading the book so writing about the characters should be easy!

sorry nkf, I muddled your name up.

No we don't. Sa may have said, use it as a resource. He may have interpreted this as cut and paste.

But then I specifically tell them not to cut and paste but they still do.

Let her do that and then let her take the fall for doing it. Behaviour has consequences

Thats what I will do MB.

Its just a battle I could do without in the greater scheme of things

I will add your "behaviour has consquences" to my white board along with "your behaviour is your responsibility"

DD2 (13 tomorrow, whoopee ) also insists they are told to copy and paste. Waiting for her to get caught as she sometimes obviously doesn't understand what she's copied, but nothing has been said yet!

As a secondary teacher there is nothing i like more than reading a cut and paste thing from Wikipedia 30 times

NOT!!!!

Sorry but no way would a teacher say this imo

Maybe they are going to do somethign to the text they are C and P ing in the lesson.

Its such a struggle to get homework in and it comes in in dribs and drabs - i hate it but then not sure how relevant music homework is for KS3

First H/W task this year for all year 8s was to research a topic (from a list) then write an encyclopaedia entry on it. The idea was to give us a benchmark NC level to start the year with, as opposed to just using whatever they'd got in the year 7 exams...

I spent 3 lessons prepping this with my top set. We covered features of an information text, appropriate tone/vocab to use AND the fact (demonstrated by me on IWB) that I could spot a plagiary in 30 seconds flat with my astounding Googlepower!

10/32 of the buggers went away & cut'n'pasted from Wikipedia.

& were quite genuinely surprised when I made them do it again. In a classroom. With a pen. At lunchtime.

I'd say your dd's story is highly unlikely tbh - & if it's true, her teacher needs a wake up call. Ring & ask her?

DD has been C&Ping for a while now and nothing ever gets said. The teachers rarely make a note on their homework but insist they do check it. I have mentioned it at several parents evenings and get the "we will look into it" line.

asdmumandteacher: you should teach my DS his music HW is always the first one to be completed, he loves music

Dd was specifically told not to cut and paste.

But I still get students at university level who need to be told this

My dd had to do some research on Animal Farm - and she was given some websites to consult. Cut and paste results in blood for breakfast at her school - I would imagine it's the same at most others!