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Home schooling, part time school, online school year 11

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Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 16:40

DS is due to start year 11 in September; he is studying towards UAL diploma level 2 which is equivalent to 4 GCSE, plus the other main subjects: English, Math, Science. The UAL level 2 is quite challenging as this is either fail or pass; and the full qualification is based on 5 big pieces of writing which isn’t his strength.

What options do we have so he can do his GCSE?

Can we ask school for him to focus on the main GCSE only: English, Maths Science? And attend those lessons only? Drop the diploma?

Can the school keeps him on roll until GCSE and he does home school, online school and do his GCSEs?

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SunnyFawn · Yesterday 16:43

Is he at the school now in Year 10? It is unlikely a school would allow him to drop so many subjects.

Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 16:48

SunnyFawn · Yesterday 16:43

Is he at the school now in Year 10? It is unlikely a school would allow him to drop so many subjects.

He is at the school currently

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Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 16:57

He has an EHCP, can we ask for flexi schooling?

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Pandorea · Yesterday 16:57

I think you need to give more information. Why can’t he just continue with the GCSEs and diploma at school? I’ve home edded through GCSEs and it’s doable but we didn’t find it fun - plus it’s expensive.

Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 17:03

Pandorea · Yesterday 16:57

I think you need to give more information. Why can’t he just continue with the GCSEs and diploma at school? I’ve home edded through GCSEs and it’s doable but we didn’t find it fun - plus it’s expensive.

Because he is struggling with the main part which is the diploma; he has to pass each unit to be able to continue with the course. It is either a fail, pass, merit, etc. if he fails one unit/piece of writing he will have to continue writing it until he passes it, and will be falling behind on the other units/ pieces of writing

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Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 17:10

Basically the diploma is all or nothing

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AelinAG · Yesterday 17:44

Does he want to continue on with the diploma?

Year11educationchoices · Yesterday 21:26

AelinAG · Yesterday 17:44

Does he want to continue on with the diploma?

He does but is falling behind and not doing great at the other subjects either. Let’s hope he can continue at the school and doesn’t come to home schooling or online schooling.

We still got a year so hopefully he will get a pass on the diploma plus a pass in English and Maths. I am a bit stressed can’t wait to see the end of year 11. I am trying to keep it cool, encouraging and positive for him though.

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clary · Yesterday 22:02

Is this the UAL diploma in art and design @Year11educationchoices? Presumably this is an area he is very keen on so I would imagine he would want to finish it? Looking at the spec tho – well I must be looking at the wrong spec as it feels very practically based rather than lots of essays. So is he taking a different strand with less of a focus on art? even so I infer it is an interest of his?

I agree that at this stage, other things being equal (ie school not being impossible for some outside reason such as bullying) it makes more sense for him to continue lessons in his core GCSEs and sit them in school. It's ££ and challenging to HE for GCSEs IME (and I do have some experience of this), unless you are a teacher as well (and even then, not many teachers have specialist exam knowledge of maths and English and science).

How is the diploma assessed? If it is assessed internally, can he not be supported to produce work which will at least gain him a pass? Or if it is totally impossible for him (in which case I would be asking the school why he was entered for it?) then maybe the best course is to focus on the core GCSEs for now. The UAL diploma I looked at can be done in a year (full time) so that might be a post-16 option?

Year11educationchoices · Today 08:23

clary · Yesterday 22:02

Is this the UAL diploma in art and design @Year11educationchoices? Presumably this is an area he is very keen on so I would imagine he would want to finish it? Looking at the spec tho – well I must be looking at the wrong spec as it feels very practically based rather than lots of essays. So is he taking a different strand with less of a focus on art? even so I infer it is an interest of his?

I agree that at this stage, other things being equal (ie school not being impossible for some outside reason such as bullying) it makes more sense for him to continue lessons in his core GCSEs and sit them in school. It's ££ and challenging to HE for GCSEs IME (and I do have some experience of this), unless you are a teacher as well (and even then, not many teachers have specialist exam knowledge of maths and English and science).

How is the diploma assessed? If it is assessed internally, can he not be supported to produce work which will at least gain him a pass? Or if it is totally impossible for him (in which case I would be asking the school why he was entered for it?) then maybe the best course is to focus on the core GCSEs for now. The UAL diploma I looked at can be done in a year (full time) so that might be a post-16 option?

It is performing arts related (no art); the qualification is all based on writing (portfolios) and passing each unit so he can continue with next one. I understand there are some practicals/workshops but they don’t count towards the qualification.

DC is trying so hopefully that is enough to get him a pass. Writing isn’t his strength and I have even less clue so can only provide moral support, encouragements, reminders.

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OneCheekySwan · Today 16:23

Have a chat to the school. UAL qualifications have flexible assessment options. He should be able to be assessed using methods other than written portfolio evidence.

The specification is here and at the end of the unit it gives a list of different ways it can be assessed : https://www.arts.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0034/488545/L2_Award_and_Diploma_in_Performing_and_Production_Arts-Reduced-Accessible.pdf

clary · Today 17:04

I agree, is it this spec? chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.arts.ac.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0034/488545/L2_Award_and_Diploma_in_Performing_and_Production_Arts-Reduced-Accessible.pdf

I am confused as the assessment mentioned here talks about a whole range of evidence, not simply five written pieces. Also if it is this spec, as I said, it’s something a student would surely only take if they were passionate about it. From the way the spec is written, it seems that performances and group work are a key element and if your DS excels here, that would be a big plus towards him getting a good grade.

If it really is only assessed through five written pieces (and therefore is not the spec I have linked at all) then like I said, I wonder why the school put him forward for it as it sounds as tho he is not suited to such an essay-heavy qualification. A bit like taking history A level but not being a fan of extended writing or detailed learning.

MerryAnt · Today 17:14

Can you ask the school if there are any flexible options for him?
The UAL art and design diploma has a drop down option for Level 2 called the Level 2 award in Art and Design. It has less modules and work required. We often let students drop down to it if they are struggling. I’m not sure performing arts also has a drop down to award option but it’s worth asking.

also as mentioned above there are other ways to record work with UAL such as video and voice over recordings, talk to text apps could be a good option if he struggles to write.
He should be provided with scaffolding questions to tell him what to write so you could ask him these and he can answer using talk to text which will also do spelling and grammar for him.

Year11educationchoices · Today 17:20

I already asked. It is all or nothing, fail or pass, merit, distinction. The qualification is all based on written portfolios.

No option to drop anything re the diploma. Not sure if you can drop the full Diploma though

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