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Appeal for Year 7 place at faith secondary school after oversight

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OutofIdeas86 · 04/04/2026 12:17

  1. Introduction
This report respectfully requests that the Appeal Panel reconsider an application for Year 7 at a faith-based secondary school, commencing September 2026. The applicant is a bright, compassionate, and highly motivated young student whose academic potential, moral character, and spiritual development will flourish in a faith-based environment. Attending this school will provide continuity in religious education, preserve important friendships, and offer opportunities to reach full academic and personal potential. This appeal also addresses an administrative oversight in the original application. Full supporting evidence is now provided to ensure that the application is fairly assessed.
  1. Family Background
The applicant is the eldest child in a family with two working parents and a younger sibling.
  • One parent works full-time in a role that requires frequent travel to an office located a considerable distance from home (Appendix 9).
  • The other parent provides daily care for an elderly family member with advanced health issues (Appendix 8).
  • The youngest sibling attends a nearby primary school.
This family context highlights the importance of a supportive and practical schooling arrangement. The student needs a school that allows safe, independent travel while the parents meet essential work and care responsibilities. The proposed school’s direct transport links and proximity to family support make it the most suitable option.
  1. About the Student
3.1 Academic Strengths The student is a strong all-rounder with particular aptitude in reading. The current teacher notes: “The student has developed a particular strength in reading and is currently working at a high level in this area. They are an avid reader who enjoys a wide variety of genres and regularly speaks with enthusiasm about the books they are reading.” The student demonstrates resilience, responsibility, and eagerness to learn across all subjects. A faith-based, enriched curriculum will provide opportunities to nurture these talents further. 3.2 Extracurricular Activities The student is active in sports and the arts:
  • Football: multiple sessions per week (grassroots and academy)
  • Rugby: weekly sessions
  • Drama: regular participation in school productions and workshops, demonstrating confidence, creativity, and teamwork
3.3 Faith and Spiritual Development The student is a practicing member of a faith community, having received all relevant sacraments. Despite living in a location without a local parish, the family regularly travels for worship, demonstrating consistent commitment to spiritual growth.
  1. Grounds for Appeal
4.1 Administrative Oversight – Omission of Religious Evidence The original supplementary information form was incomplete due to an administrative oversight when gathering parish contact information following a recent change in clergy.
  • There was no intention to misrepresent or withhold information.
  • The oversight was discovered on National Offer Day.
  • All supporting evidence has now been submitted, including parish references and sacramental certificates (Appendices 2–4).
The student fully meets the faith criteria, and the panel is respectfully asked to consider this additional evidence for a fair assessment. 4.2 Spiritual and Academic Considerations The school’s faith-based ethos ensures continuity between home, church, and school, which is vital for the student’s moral, spiritual, and emotional development. References from parish and family faith leaders highlight the importance of faith-based education. Academically, the school offers opportunities unavailable at the allocated school, including vocational courses and a strong record in subjects such as English Literature and Performing Arts. These programs will allow the student to reach full potential. 4.3 Social and Emotional Wellbeing The student attends a very small primary school (11 children in the year group). Transitioning to secondary school is challenging, but several of the student’s closest friends will attend the proposed school. Maintaining these friendships is essential for confidence, sense of belonging, and emotional stability. The teacher describes the student as: “A confident, happy, and sociable young person who works well with peers.” The proposed school provides a familiar and supportive peer group, ensuring the student will feel secure and settled. 4.4 Practical Considerations The proposed school is within commuting distance and offers a direct bus route, as well as proximity to family support, enabling safe independent travel. This is particularly important given the family’s commitments:
  • One parent provides daily care for an elderly relative with advanced health issues (Appendix 8).
  • The other parent works in a distant office requiring frequent travel (Appendix 9).
The allocated school does not offer a direct bus route, meaning the student could be unsupervised for extended periods when parents are engaged in essential responsibilities. The proposed school’s transport and location arrangements therefore provide the most practical solution to ensure safety, independence, and wellbeing. Supporting evidence, including bus timetables and travel maps, is provided in Appendices 6–7. 4.5 Development of Aptitude and Talent The student has demonstrated notable aptitude in drama and performing arts. The teacher reports: “The student has shown excellent ability in drama. In last year’s school production, they played a main role usually given to older students. They performed with confidence and enthusiasm, captivating the audience and showing a natural ability to take on different roles.” This demonstrates not only talent but also dedication, confidence, and resilience. The school’s strong Performing Arts program, including vocational courses, will allow the student to fully develop this aptitude, which is not available at the allocated school. 4.6 Comparison with Allocated School While the allocated school has provided support during the transition, it is not a faith-based school, and:
  • None of the student’s friends are attending
  • Travel arrangements are less practical
  • Opportunities in key subjects, such as Performing Arts and English Literature, are more limited
The proposed school clearly offers the best academic, social, spiritual, and practical fit.
  1. Conclusion
The student is a bright, compassionate, and highly motivated young person whose academic potential, moral character, and spiritual development align closely with the school’s ethos. The administrative oversight in the original application was unintentional and has been rectified with full supporting evidence. The school provides continuity in faith-based education, access to a supportive peer group, enriched academic opportunities, and practical travel arrangements suitable to family circumstances. The panel is respectfully asked to reconsider the application and grant a place for Year 7, September 2026, allowing the student to continue thriving academically, socially, spiritually, and practically.
  1. Appendices
  2. Teacher references
  3. Parish references
  4. Baptism certificate
  5. First Holy Communion certificate
  6. Drama achievements
  7. Bus timetable
  8. Travel map
  9. Proof of parental carer responsibilities
  10. Proof of parental work location(s)
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MrTiddlesTheCat · 04/04/2026 14:54

OutofIdeas86 · 04/04/2026 12:48

I would think the child being able to travel to school is really important? We've been told panels consider child welfare and wellbeing

When I did appeals it was only really considered if the journey was blatantly unreasonable and the bar was quite high. The only one that was allowed on that basis was where the allocated school was a 45 minute drive away but public transport connections would mean it took 3 hours each way. Blatantly nuts.

Ophy83 · 04/04/2026 15:07

It's an appeal, not a report. And it is repetitive e.g. re parental commitments. It also comes across as robotic/AI generated.

I would write something that sounds a bit more genuine. Your best points are the admin error, and that this is a good kid who would be an asset to the school.

I wouldn't lead with the point about a parent working full time often at a distance from home (so what? Most secondary age kids get themselves to school unsupervised sometimes involving multiple trains or buses)

PinkFrogss · 04/04/2026 15:13

Also OP some of your points contradict each other. I’d expect an argument for attending the same school as friends is the child is socially non confident. Usually backed up by expert opinion on SEN or mental health impact e.g child has autism and struggles socially. Child demonstrates difficulties with friendships and required high level of support from TA at break times. Child previously has EBSA due to friendship issues. Something like that.

Sounds like your child is socially confident and while it’s nice to transition to secondary school with friends it’s not required, and your child would not benefit from this more than any other child.

You also mention the importance of continuity spiritually, between home, church, and school. But the school is a different denomination than your child. How does that aide continuity and why is it important for your child?

He clearly spends a lot of time at football outside of school. How does this fit in with transport e.g what time is academy training and where is it? And generally at secondary schools involvement with the school play for example will involve after school rehearsals and workshops. How will that work with academy training?

Besides being a generally weak case I think there are a lot of holes.

LIZS · 04/04/2026 15:20

Ophy83 · 04/04/2026 15:07

It's an appeal, not a report. And it is repetitive e.g. re parental commitments. It also comes across as robotic/AI generated.

I would write something that sounds a bit more genuine. Your best points are the admin error, and that this is a good kid who would be an asset to the school.

I wouldn't lead with the point about a parent working full time often at a distance from home (so what? Most secondary age kids get themselves to school unsupervised sometimes involving multiple trains or buses)

Being a “good kid” carries no weight

clary · 04/04/2026 15:37

Yeh @OutofIdeas86 no one is trolling you. Just bc they don’t think your appeal will succeed as it stands.

You have been told all of this before but details of your son’s ability and school attitude, lovely as I am sure he is, have nothing to do with the appeal. Schools cannot accept appeals from well-behaved DC and not from rowdy ones. Imagine if they did. Also the logistics of your and DH’s commitments are irrelevant.

I agree btw that the points are contradictory – if your DS really needs to attend the school his primary peers will go to, that doesn;t fit with him being so sociable and confident really.

I am puzzled as to why your error in application is a ground for appeal? Your appeals consultant seems to be a bit rubbish tbh. I think it’s a good line for a WL place tho.

What do you mean by saying the Eng lit offer at the offered school is not as good? In what way? Similarly I would think you need to spell out how the drama offer is better. You have waaaaaay too much info on some irrelevant points and not enough on those points that might help.

ETA: I see you reference the PA Btec at the faith school and that the allocated school offers drama GCSE. You do know tho that drama GCSE has a strong element of performance included? What about the PA Btec is specifically suitable for your ds?

Also I am interested in the Eng lit angle!

LadyLapsang · 04/04/2026 15:51

You paid an ‘admissions consultant’ for that? Seriously, just read the relevant admissions policy and explain how you meet the criteria. Presumably for the school which allocates places based on faith, it would mean apologising for your oversight in not ensuring your Priest completed the SIF properly and you failing to attach the certificates of Baptism and First Communion and perhaps a letter from the Priest detailing your Church attendance; for how long have you attended the Church and how frequently. You mention you are RC, but applying for a Church of England school? How far are you from your nearest RC secondary school?

albhub · 04/04/2026 15:59

I recognized you straight away.
You have been given lots of advice on previous threads.

Nothing is relevant here apart from the fact the evidence of faith wasn't submitted correctly. All the rest of it is just ChatGPT generated waffle that has nothing whatsoever to do with the admissions criteria.

Why haven't you applied to a RC school if you are RC? Isn't there one in your local area?
Also you have applied to and are appealing non-faith based schools too so it makes your argument look weak.

SheilaFentiman · 04/04/2026 16:28

now that the faith information has been supplied, has your waiting list place been
updated to reflect that and where are you on the WL if so?

PanelChair · 04/04/2026 16:28

@Mumofteenandtween- I was an LEA governor at a school and was invited to join the pool of panel members and then the pool of panel chairs. My LEA has changed its procedures now, to make them more transparent; every year or so there’s a recruitment exercise, publicised on the LEA’s website.

SheilaFentiman · 04/04/2026 16:32

And honestly getting a role in year 5 a year 6 usually gets is quite meaningless really, the allocation of parts in a primary school is always mad.

Even more so if there are only 11 children per year - presumably almost anyone who is up for it gets a speaking part with those kind of numbers.

Mumofteenandtween · 04/04/2026 17:28

Thanks @ApathyMartha and @PanelChair

I will keep an eye out.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:37

WTAFIsWrongWithPeople · 04/04/2026 12:38

If you’ve employed an appeals consultant, why the need to keep testing your theories here?

Didn’t even realise an appeals consultant was a thing!!!
Ultimately very few kids get In on appeal as most accept the places which leaves little room for additional kids.
I would not be wasting my money on this if there’s any spaces left there is, and if not there isn’t!

TeenToTwenties · 04/04/2026 17:39

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:37

Didn’t even realise an appeals consultant was a thing!!!
Ultimately very few kids get In on appeal as most accept the places which leaves little room for additional kids.
I would not be wasting my money on this if there’s any spaces left there is, and if not there isn’t!

That's not what happens with appeals.
With appeals they can make extra spaces if the argument balance is strong enough.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:42

TeenToTwenties · 04/04/2026 17:39

That's not what happens with appeals.
With appeals they can make extra spaces if the argument balance is strong enough.

I think our local comp must choose not too do that perhaps, then again it’s fairly new and all the classrooms are set up for 30 kids so no actual extra desk space etc… so never more than 30 in a class and I believe all these are offered out? Could be wrong -
interesting thought but as older one is there the other 2 will get in on the sibling rule

clary · 04/04/2026 17:47

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:42

I think our local comp must choose not too do that perhaps, then again it’s fairly new and all the classrooms are set up for 30 kids so no actual extra desk space etc… so never more than 30 in a class and I believe all these are offered out? Could be wrong -
interesting thought but as older one is there the other 2 will get in on the sibling rule

A school cannot choose not to accept appeal decisions.

It may well argue that it cannot take more DC but if the appeal panel finds in favour of the appellant then it has to accept the extra student.

If they then have more than 30 in a class they'll have to work with it. I had 32 seats in my classroom and one year my top set year 9 was 33 students which was always a bit of a struggle. Unless someone was off.

Screamingabdabz · 04/04/2026 17:47

“All the rest of it is just ChatGPT generated waffle that has nothing whatsoever to do with the admissions criteria.”

Appeals don’t have to be ‘linked to the admission criteria’. That’s why they’re an appeal. But the reasons given do have to carry enough weight to outweigh the school’s case for prejudice.

I think not submitting faith evidence can be a good ground for appeal IF there are genuine and exceptional circumstances such as a bereavement. But in this case it seems it was half arsed forgetfulness. And wanging on about spiritual development when there appears to be no mention of regular church involvement or personal faith (beyond a couple of certificates) seems disingenuous.

As a panellist I wouldn’t feel particularly compelled by this.

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:49

clary · 04/04/2026 17:47

A school cannot choose not to accept appeal decisions.

It may well argue that it cannot take more DC but if the appeal panel finds in favour of the appellant then it has to accept the extra student.

If they then have more than 30 in a class they'll have to work with it. I had 32 seats in my classroom and one year my top set year 9 was 33 students which was always a bit of a struggle. Unless someone was off.

No ideal for the teachers honour the kids all being piled in like that really! 33 is a lot!

Mumofteenandtween · 04/04/2026 17:54

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:42

I think our local comp must choose not too do that perhaps, then again it’s fairly new and all the classrooms are set up for 30 kids so no actual extra desk space etc… so never more than 30 in a class and I believe all these are offered out? Could be wrong -
interesting thought but as older one is there the other 2 will get in on the sibling rule

What generally happens is that if the school is forced to take (say) 4 on appeal then when 4 kids with offers later decide they don’t want a place then a new space is not offered to someone on the waiting list. So by the time it gets to 1st September there are no extra children.

No guarantee for the school of course so they have to allow for the extras but probably won’t happen.

Friends of ours appealed. When they turned up there were 6 appeals. 1 had used some kind of legal adviser / appeals consultant. Our friends had spent many many hours perfecting the perfect speech. 3 others appeared to have done different levels of work on theirs. And one hadn’t turned up at all.

They were all waiting in the waiting area (and friends were fretting that they should have got advice) whilst the school gave their thing first. After which the panel chair came out, said the school had failed to prove detriment so all 6 were in. Including the one who hadn’t turned up!

Our friends were simultaneously delighted and slightly aggrieved they had wasted so much time on their perfect speech!

clary · 04/04/2026 17:54

Besidemyselfwithworry · 04/04/2026 17:49

No ideal for the teachers honour the kids all being piled in like that really! 33 is a lot!

Yeh it was top set that's why tbh. It was tricky – if everyone was there someone had to sit on the end of a desk.

Lower sets usually have fewer DC in for obvious reasons. Actually it was an amazing group, I still think of them fondly.

BlueMoonIceCream · 04/04/2026 18:01

My son is in the Catholic school. When you apply you fill the form where you marking if you apply as a Catholic, as a Orthodox etc etc

In the instance where there was the application marked as a Catholic but not evidence provided they would call. They would call you to send them Certificate of Catholic Practice and Baptism Certificate. And when we applied we received a note confirming that they have received the documents.

I find it very strange that you applied as a Catholic and they have not chased you for documents.
I know kids in 4 Catholic schools and everywhere it looks more or less the same.

OutofIdeas86 · 04/04/2026 18:12

BlueMoonIceCream · 04/04/2026 18:01

My son is in the Catholic school. When you apply you fill the form where you marking if you apply as a Catholic, as a Orthodox etc etc

In the instance where there was the application marked as a Catholic but not evidence provided they would call. They would call you to send them Certificate of Catholic Practice and Baptism Certificate. And when we applied we received a note confirming that they have received the documents.

I find it very strange that you applied as a Catholic and they have not chased you for documents.
I know kids in 4 Catholic schools and everywhere it looks more or less the same.

This is a C of E school, you don't provide certificates in the application - you submit details of a 'faith leader', could be a priest, vicar etc. They then verify that you attend church reguarly. I filled out our church details but not the name of a faith leader as wanted to check best point of contact, the parish priest had moved to another parish 2 months before.

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OutofIdeas86 · 04/04/2026 18:14

Mumofteenandtween · 04/04/2026 17:54

What generally happens is that if the school is forced to take (say) 4 on appeal then when 4 kids with offers later decide they don’t want a place then a new space is not offered to someone on the waiting list. So by the time it gets to 1st September there are no extra children.

No guarantee for the school of course so they have to allow for the extras but probably won’t happen.

Friends of ours appealed. When they turned up there were 6 appeals. 1 had used some kind of legal adviser / appeals consultant. Our friends had spent many many hours perfecting the perfect speech. 3 others appeared to have done different levels of work on theirs. And one hadn’t turned up at all.

They were all waiting in the waiting area (and friends were fretting that they should have got advice) whilst the school gave their thing first. After which the panel chair came out, said the school had failed to prove detriment so all 6 were in. Including the one who hadn’t turned up!

Our friends were simultaneously delighted and slightly aggrieved they had wasted so much time on their perfect speech!

I have heard similar stories!
They are all done on zoom now!
1 school we are appealing to has over 100 appeals to hear, the other one (the faith school) has around 20 appeals.
The success rate nationally is about 20%.

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Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 04/04/2026 18:17

You can only appeal if they have applied their own criteria unfairly, or if the child’s need to go there overwhelmingly exceeds the school being full.
‘Both parents work’ isn’t criteria.
‘A nice person’ isn’t criteria.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 04/04/2026 18:22

This again

OutofIdeas86 · 04/04/2026 18:25

SheilaFentiman · 04/04/2026 16:28

now that the faith information has been supplied, has your waiting list place been
updated to reflect that and where are you on the WL if so?

Yes we are on the waiting list - I've asked our place, but school replied saying this;
In accordance with our Admissions Policy should a place become available before the Year 6-7 appeals that are due to be held in May 2026 then the current ranked list will be used and any place that become available will be offered to the student that is placed at the top of this ranked list. Once the appeals have been heard and the outcome of the appeals are known the ranked list then becomes obsolete and a waiting list will be opened.

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