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Help me make a choice between WHS and GHS

14 replies

DDWHS26 · 16/02/2026 19:36

We find ourselves in a bit of a pleasant quandary. We are spoiled for choice with offers from both WHS and GHS. We’re in Epsom, so the school run is six of one, half a dozen of the other.

The DD in question:

  • The Thespian: She absolutely adores treading the boards. Anything involving drama, debating, or holding court—she’s front and centre.
  • The Sport: She’s terribly keen and competitive, though perhaps more of a 'solid B-team' player than a future Olympian. She loves the camaraderie but isn't quite County level.
  • The Academics: She’s a sharp cookie and very driven, but it’s the extracurriculars that really put the wind in her sails.
Given she needs that outlet for her 'performance' energy, does one school have the edge for a girl who wants to get stuck in without needing to be elite at everything?
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GHSmom · 27/02/2026 20:10

We chose GHS this year

FruityLoopie · 27/02/2026 21:57

I'd focus on commute and take the direct 10-15min train option. Best for friends and wellbeing!

Also GHS is rumoured to be packing the rafters this year, and accepting applicants that have even ben rejected at lesser academic schools.

Not to say your DD is that at all - especially as she got into both - but more to say that they've clearly made a step change and whether thats money related or not, who knows, but GHS is the piggy bank of United Learning, which as a whole has had some school closures of its own recently.

Seasaltlady · 28/02/2026 00:35

DDWHS26 · 16/02/2026 19:36

We find ourselves in a bit of a pleasant quandary. We are spoiled for choice with offers from both WHS and GHS. We’re in Epsom, so the school run is six of one, half a dozen of the other.

The DD in question:

  • The Thespian: She absolutely adores treading the boards. Anything involving drama, debating, or holding court—she’s front and centre.
  • The Sport: She’s terribly keen and competitive, though perhaps more of a 'solid B-team' player than a future Olympian. She loves the camaraderie but isn't quite County level.
  • The Academics: She’s a sharp cookie and very driven, but it’s the extracurriculars that really put the wind in her sails.
Given she needs that outlet for her 'performance' energy, does one school have the edge for a girl who wants to get stuck in without needing to be elite at everything?

Do you mind me asking if your daughter has any friends going to either and if that would sway your decision? We have a dilemma over two separate schools - we have always been keen on the one and over the moon that DD got an offer - however none of the girls from her school seem to be likely to choose it (despite it being top ranking etc) she does have a group of nice girls going to another school (also top ranking, to which we also have an offer, but feel it may be too much of an academic pressure pot for her and therefore hadn’t really considered). We are now on the eve of needing to make a choice and I can see that my DD is starting to wobble on her choice, as am I! I am so worried she will regret not joining her friends but equally is it a good enough reason to not go with the school we know she would thrive in?

Hdhdh25 · 28/02/2026 08:06

Most schools have acknowledged that VAT and non-dom rules are making life difficult for them. Their waitlist has a huge tail be spg , G&L , NCL or ghs or whs including in year seats not just 11+ . And coming to this topic. WHS campus and Vibe was a let down compared to GHS so we chose GHS plus we pay 10% less fee.

FruityLoopie · 28/02/2026 12:01

Seasaltlady · 28/02/2026 00:35

Do you mind me asking if your daughter has any friends going to either and if that would sway your decision? We have a dilemma over two separate schools - we have always been keen on the one and over the moon that DD got an offer - however none of the girls from her school seem to be likely to choose it (despite it being top ranking etc) she does have a group of nice girls going to another school (also top ranking, to which we also have an offer, but feel it may be too much of an academic pressure pot for her and therefore hadn’t really considered). We are now on the eve of needing to make a choice and I can see that my DD is starting to wobble on her choice, as am I! I am so worried she will regret not joining her friends but equally is it a good enough reason to not go with the school we know she would thrive in?

I think being with friends is very important. School is about being happy in place, as much as it about academic results and rankings. It should be factored in. Is the school ger friends are going to/staying with academically bad, seems good enough for them, so maybe for your dd too?

Seasaltlady · 28/02/2026 12:53

FruityLoopie · 28/02/2026 12:01

I think being with friends is very important. School is about being happy in place, as much as it about academic results and rankings. It should be factored in. Is the school ger friends are going to/staying with academically bad, seems good enough for them, so maybe for your dd too?

No, it’s not. If anything, it (LEH) ranks higher than the school we are looking to send our DD to (PHS) so it’s not about rankings so much, as fit. We have always liked PHS but just wonder if having the safety of a few familiar faces is worth making a radical switch at the last minute. DD seems to be more confident today to go it alone, but I wonder if we are just making things harder for her. She is an only child so we don’t really need to factor in siblings etc.

mutbee · 28/02/2026 13:12

Seasaltlady · 28/02/2026 12:53

No, it’s not. If anything, it (LEH) ranks higher than the school we are looking to send our DD to (PHS) so it’s not about rankings so much, as fit. We have always liked PHS but just wonder if having the safety of a few familiar faces is worth making a radical switch at the last minute. DD seems to be more confident today to go it alone, but I wonder if we are just making things harder for her. She is an only child so we don’t really need to factor in siblings etc.

Go with your gut! The friends might not stay friends after the first term.. My DD went alone, without friends to her school and so glad she did. She’s started fresh and found lots of new friends and still kept her old friends who she sees on weekends/holidays. Some of her friends that went to the same school have had a tougher time as it’s hard to navigate old friends together with trying to find their place in a new school. Don’t let friends sway your decision, go with what you think is the best fit for your DD. Good luck!

Seasaltlady · 28/02/2026 14:13

mutbee · 28/02/2026 13:12

Go with your gut! The friends might not stay friends after the first term.. My DD went alone, without friends to her school and so glad she did. She’s started fresh and found lots of new friends and still kept her old friends who she sees on weekends/holidays. Some of her friends that went to the same school have had a tougher time as it’s hard to navigate old friends together with trying to find their place in a new school. Don’t let friends sway your decision, go with what you think is the best fit for your DD. Good luck!

Thank you!! Very helpful advice :)

DDWHS26 · 28/02/2026 18:59

To close the loop, GHS it is. LEH was just too far

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Deanofvenice · 28/02/2026 19:57

Great choice. My DD loves it at GHS!

FruityLoopie · 28/02/2026 21:42

Ghs are clearly taking everyone any anyone this year, we've got friends with girls that were accepted that are shocked and surprised, a speculative bid, but none the less offered and now taking the place anyway, who wouldnt?

In a few years time I perceive it becoming a something of nothing place though. There are other threads on here saying similar things in other year groups too, taking lots of extra kids. The financial issues at United learning and the coming if a co ed RGS are clearly promoting a 'fill it full' approach.

Will work until these cohorts reach exam years.

Apart from the results ghs is just another random girls school, but unlike others that have had to pivot and carve an identity for themselves, to keep moving forward, it doesn't actualy have any other usp at all, it's know for nothing but it's results.

It will be an interesting next few years in the market!

CaffeineAndChaos26 · 28/02/2026 23:30

Re: FruityLoopie
The sour grapes in this post are absolutely staggering. Honestly, this reads less like an objective critique and more like the desperate rambling of someone whose daughter just got a rejection letter. Or wait—did you apply for a job at GHS and get binned yourself?
To claim one of the most highly selective schools in the country is suddenly taking "anyone" is pure delusion. If your friends' daughters got in, it’s because they are genuinely bright girls who met a notoriously rigorous standard. You should be congratulating them, not dragging their achievements through the mud to make yourself feel better.
Calling GHS a random girls school with no USP other than being consistently ranked at the very top nationally is completely laughable. It is best in sports of the decade in times ranking too. For GHS isn't dropping its standards to fill it full—you just clearly have a massive, embarrassing chip on your shoulder.
To any parents reading: ignore this bitter doom-mongering. If your daughter got an offer, she earned it. Don’t let someone else’s obvious personal grudge ruin your good news. take a call what is right for you , commute, academic and sports interest.

FruityLoopie · 28/02/2026 23:46

CaffeineAndChaos26 · 28/02/2026 23:30

Re: FruityLoopie
The sour grapes in this post are absolutely staggering. Honestly, this reads less like an objective critique and more like the desperate rambling of someone whose daughter just got a rejection letter. Or wait—did you apply for a job at GHS and get binned yourself?
To claim one of the most highly selective schools in the country is suddenly taking "anyone" is pure delusion. If your friends' daughters got in, it’s because they are genuinely bright girls who met a notoriously rigorous standard. You should be congratulating them, not dragging their achievements through the mud to make yourself feel better.
Calling GHS a random girls school with no USP other than being consistently ranked at the very top nationally is completely laughable. It is best in sports of the decade in times ranking too. For GHS isn't dropping its standards to fill it full—you just clearly have a massive, embarrassing chip on your shoulder.
To any parents reading: ignore this bitter doom-mongering. If your daughter got an offer, she earned it. Don’t let someone else’s obvious personal grudge ruin your good news. take a call what is right for you , commute, academic and sports interest.

Oh please, spare us the dramatic psychoanalysis. Sour grapes? Rejection letter? Job application?

Nice try projecting, but zero out of threel, DD settled elsewhere ages ago, no applications here, and definitely not sniffing around for a GHS admin gig. These are straight observations from multiple threads, parent chats, and actual families, inc friends, whose girls did get offers this cycle and were still shocked at who else scraped in.

GHS parents screech "highly selective" like it's a shield, but the anecdotes keep piling up: girls waitlisted/rejected at schools ranked lower academically (or even some comparable) suddenly getting the golden ticket to GHS.

Coincidence? Maybe.

But when it happens across year groups, including in-year, and lines up with United Learning's well-documented financial preqsures, ie. VAT hammer, NI hikes, rates relief gone, and actual closures/mergers in the group (e.g., The Royal School Haslemere shutting Aug 2025 after subsidies dried up), well, it's not wild speculation to wonder if they're padding numbers to keep the lights on.

GHS is still churning out stellar results and dominates girls' sport (top in Times/Sunday Times rankings, fair play), no denying that. But pretending it's got some magical USP beyond "we're top of the league tables" is laughable in Surrey's packed girls' school scene.

Drama? Music? Pastoral? Facilities?

Plenty of places shout louder about those while GHS coasts on academics + sport. If they're quietly bumping intake (larger cohorts reported this year), that "rigorous standard" might feel a tad less rigorous when those bigger groups hit exam pressure and resources get stretched.

Call it doom-mongering if it makes you feel superior, but parents aren't idiots.

They see the chatter, the surprised acceptances, the trust's belt-tightening, and the looming RGS co-ed wave that could siphon demand long-term.

Congrats if your DD thrives there, but acting like any question = bitterness just screams incredibly defensive.

CaffeineAndChaos26 · 01/03/2026 00:22

FruityLoopie — This is getting a bit embarrassing, isn’t it?
For someone whose daughter was supposedly settled elsewhere ages ago, you’re spending an incredible amount of energy of your old age and expertise lurking in chats, tracking GHS acceptances, and drafting paranoid essays on United Learning’s balance sheets.
You can dress up your bitterness as macroeconomic analysis all you want, but trying this hard to devalue the achievements of 11-year-old girls just to soothe your own rejection is transparent. If your daughter is so happy elsewhere, why are you still here - lurking around with your nagativity ? someone rightly said, if tyou cant say positive, stay silent...
To help you out: the orignal post parent already said, "To close the loop, GHS it is." Read between the lines—the decision is made, the loop is closed, and your analysis is officially irrelevant in this context. Enjoy your settled school and take a break from the forums; the projection is loud, and quite frankly, no one here needs the negativity.

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