Spgs waitlist

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Hi,

Our dd has been placed in SPGS waitlist for 11+ does anyone know how small their waitlist are and what are the chances of everyone getting it this year. Any experience from previous year would be helpful. Thanks

Thanks @IsThisRealLife - I was actually more interested in @icantbelievethis001 ‘s dd existing school (which I believe is a all through school) having a high number of offers - although I wonder if the numbers could also be as high as Bute House itself?

(as for all through schools they will never publish actual figures for 11+ offers and acceptances whereas Bute is a well known feeder for SPGS and probably what all the 7+ Bute House joiners aim for as the holy grail)

We will be also turning down our offer.

My daughter has decided she will go with our other choice which came as a surprise to me; I promised the choice is hers and respect that.

Good luck to your daughter op, hopefully you will hear back soon.

Trust your gut :)

"high double digit" would be a figure in the 90s! I don't think you're actually suggesting that!

Generally, about 18-20 girls a year from Bute get offers (based on my DD's year at SGPS). Usually about 6-10 each from Glendower / Faulkner/ Kensington Prep (based on the data on their websites). The rest of the year very widely spread in terms of intake across other preps and state primaries.

I'm really sorry you felt that. I can honestly say that "cold and abrupt" is just about the opposite of how I would describe DD's experience of SPGS (and ours as parents). If you're unsure about single sex then of course that's insurmountable. And if you just don't click with the vibe, that's an instinct thing. I think SPGS does have a particular flavour, which of course doesn't suit every child and every family, though I'd say it's the opposite of your experience to date - the liberal ethos means it's actually a lot more relaxed than most schools (ie very few rules, and the girls are just quite grown up from the outset and don't seem to need rules), quite a mature, mutually respectful & fun relationship between staff and pupils right from Y7, and my DD has found it to be a very warm school - both in terms of other students and staff.
But I do think the PP is right and you should trust your instinct. When we were applying, I did get an instinctive sense with some schools that they just wouldn't be right for DD and you know your daughter best.
Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions.

The personal card been done for years from other schools which is now used by a majority as a personal touch. The issue is your gut and your feel about fit. Good luck!

Ha. 90 girls would be a stretch even for Bute - I mean: it's a powerhouse, but only has around 66 in Year 6...

Well spotted - and flagged. Had intended high-teens. Thank you @SPGSParent !

Didnt realise that. Good to know! Don’t feel so bad now! Wobble over. GLA

Do you mind sharing which school she’s chosen? Just wondering if she is going for a co-ed as mine is inclined to.

She will go to Westminster and I am genuinely surprised at how naturally her choice came. No fussing and turning over it, she just I am happy with her choice.
I think deep down I was leaning towards Westminster too although I am not sure I can explain why since SPGS is so finely tuned it almost doesn’t make sense!

Bute House was the known ‘feeder’ prep to SPGS for obvious reasons but has distanced itself from being so in recent years. However, it has a large cohort and still sends a relatively large numbers of girls there.

If it wasn’t a Bute House uniform, I struggle to think which other prep would get so many offers. Falkner House always sends a significant percentage of its cohort there each year, but because of its relatively small size vs Bute, this would be only be 6 or 7 girls.

Moreover, in a year 7 group of around 120 at SPGS, I’m not sure why this would dissuade someone from joining?

From what we've seen, at least: the implied 'a card is a card is a card' equivalence doesn't hold.

On any number of levels (already discussed in detail by @icantbelievethis001 in a previous post), the effort made by SPGS was (well) beyond that of other schools.

And it landed with us, too.

Just to say.

I agree - 20 (or thereabouts) girls from one school in a year group of 120 never felt like a big deal to us.
I can only speak from personal experience, but in DD's year, they all made new friends and expanded their social circle (even those who stayed good friends with girls from previous preps / primaries).
TBH after the first few weeks of Y7 they stop asking each other where they came from so I'm not sure DD would even know where her current friends went to primary school anyway!

Given the breadth of Bute's intake (across categories) at the 7+, 20 of its girls in an intake of 120 is largely just a data point.

That said, from a 'humans humaning' standpoint, I could imagine scenarios in which the optics had the potential to feel a bit intimidating.

Again: don't have the answer but, as I sat there on offer day, did wonder.

20 is nothing! Think about the other through girls' schools where the junior school pupils take up 30-40% of the cohort 😂
I did get a similar vibe at G&L offer holders day last year. It was broken down in multiple offer holder sessions so I wasn't able to see the entire cohort, but seeing 6-7 ish girls gathered in the same uniform and all the parents seeming to know each other did feel a little intimidating.. maybe not the right word but ykwim.

That's such a good point! Are SPGS and G&L the only top London indies that don't have a junior school? I couldn't immediately think of any others.

Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately, we didn’t receive an offer (or a place on the waiting list) from Westminster, but we do have Highgate, which our daughter is keen on despite my having tried to nudge her towards SPGS. All the very best to your daughter. It looked like an excellent school and a real opportunity to be part of the pioneering cohort there. She sounds like she knows her own mind :)

In our class, one girl turned down SPGS for CLSG and another one for HBS.

When was that?

Not this year obviously, but I know of someone who got an offer off WL.

Has anyone heard of anyone in the waitlist offered a place so far? I mean for this year. Or would it all happen only next week ?

Per previous posts there won’t be any movement until after deadline expires. Even those who have given up their spot, such as ourselves, they will only be able to go to the waitlist, once they have a definitive decision from all those that have a firm offer, since they will over offer (albeit probably only a few spots). Only if the firm acceptances drop below whatever is their target number will they move to waitlist. If it’s any help when we declined the offer admissions said only about half had accepted and a number are probably waiting for decisions on grammar which comes out on Monday. GLA

Thank you that really helps to know. Hopefully we should hear next week.

Do you know why they preferred CLSG over SPGS?

Do you know why they preferred CLSG over SPGS