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St Albans boys

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jdr1234 · 06/01/2026 20:01

Ds sat the St Albans exam today, there didn’t look like there was more than 100 kids - I know there was yesterday as well but surely must be more than 200 kids sitting…anyone know? I assume there was only one session today as was 8.30-1.30.

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BarqsHasBite · 06/01/2026 23:54

My DS joined St Albans School (it’s not been all boys since the early 90s! 🤪) this year.

Last year we were told they had 280 sit the exam and 220 were called back.

I think there were 2 sessions on the main assessment day, and then a second day which was mainly for those who couldn’t make the first day due to other assessments (and possibly for those needing extra time, but I may be wrong about that).

How this year’s process and figures vary, with falling birth rate, addition of girls to the mix and ongoing VAT effect is anyone’s guess.

Good luck, it’s a great school!

jdr1234 · 07/01/2026 07:05

Thank you @BarqsHasBite
im so curious to know how they maintain there academic standard if only 280 kids are applying, surely means the kids have a 50% chance of getting in. Aldenham has more children sit therefore could potentially be more selective with far less superior results. I wonder if St Albans numbers are just completely down in the past few years

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BarqsHasBite · 07/01/2026 08:45

jdr1234 · 07/01/2026 07:05

Thank you @BarqsHasBite
im so curious to know how they maintain there academic standard if only 280 kids are applying, surely means the kids have a 50% chance of getting in. Aldenham has more children sit therefore could potentially be more selective with far less superior results. I wonder if St Albans numbers are just completely down in the past few years

If 280 kids apply to SAS then yes about half will get offers. However, the cohorts applying to and ultimately accepting places at SAS and Aldenham are likely to be very different because the schools are very different. There will be quite a bit of self-selection at the application stage.

As SAS is known to be an academically high-achieving and demanding school, you won’t get that many academically below-average/struggling children applying. Any children coming from prep schools are likely to be steered towards other schools. To the extent less-able kids do apply they will largely be weeded out during the assessment.

In contrast Aldenham is known to be much less academically selective and to have a different offering. Many of the children there wouldn’t be at the academic level required by SAS (which is of course fine, kids have different strengths and needs).

However, I’m almost certain that a number of quite academic kids do apply to Aldenham, but use it as a back-up if they don’t manage to get in to schools like SAS/Habs etc. Most of these kids will get and will accept offers to the more academic schools. What it means is applicant numbers to Aldenham are boosted by candidates for whom it’s not their first (or second or third) choice. Aldenham may have to make a higher number of offers than SAS in order to fill their places.

As an aside, I’ve never entirely understood how oversubscribed but non-selective schools decide what offers to make!

Given falling birth rates and VAT, standards at academic schools as a whole are likely to fall a bit, it’s just one of those things. The alternative is for schools to try to maintain standards and inevitably contract which would be a risky strategy.

BarqsHasBite · 07/01/2026 08:47

I don’t know historically the number of applicants to SAS, but when we applied the website said “about 300.” So the actual 280 figure was probably what you’d expect given birth rates and VAT.

BarqsHasBite · 07/01/2026 08:50

I don’t know historically the number of applicants to SAS, but when we applied the website said “about 300.” So the actual 280 figure was what you’d expect given birth rates and VAT.

Purple2316 · 10/01/2026 06:54

Morning, my DS took the exam on Tuesday and I asked a teacher there how many students attended the examinations this year. He actually mentioned there was more this year than last year and he’s assuming this is due to them becoming co-ed despite only seeing saw 2 girls there!! He said there was around 180 students that attended on Tuesday and 160 on Monday and they try to call back around half! Also they ran the assessment day differently this year, doing it across 2 days as opposed to the 1 with 2 sessions. They said that there was another girls school who had their exam on the same day and didn’t want parents to have to choose which one their child would sit.. He also mentioned that they didn’t like when parents prepped their child for an interview and would much rather laugh at an unexpected response. Not sure about anyone else, but the wait is killing me..

Purple2316 · 10/01/2026 07:15

Also forgot to mention that they also said they would happily increase the number of offers to 80 students and add an extra form if the cohort is strong, so we’ll see 😬

jdr1234 · 10/01/2026 08:35

Good to hear @Purple2316 now we wait till Friday. Where else has your ds sat?

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BarqsHasBite · 10/01/2026 09:30

Purple2316 · 10/01/2026 07:15

Also forgot to mention that they also said they would happily increase the number of offers to 80 students and add an extra form if the cohort is strong, so we’ll see 😬

This is what they’ve done the last two years - both have 4 classes and around 88 pupils I think.

We heard quite a few girls who applied to STAHS (the girls’ school) also applied to SAS. They would have sat the SAS exam on Monday as STAHS was on Tuesday.

jdr1234 · 10/01/2026 09:52

@BarqsHasBite and @Purple2316 this makes sense then and that’s probably why there was only a handful of girls on the Tuesday!

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Purple2316 · 10/01/2026 10:08

@jdr1234my ds is currently sitting Mount House today.. our first choice is SAS though so really hoping for a call back next week.

SAmum26 · 11/01/2026 21:02

Hi!

I am curious to know more on how the numbers above were estimated for those sitting SAS last week. Seems like there were about 20 / 25 in each of the 2 groups, and 4 groups across the 2 days. Then of course there would have been the mop up day which I think was the Thursday. But this thread seems to suggest there were a lot more in each of the groups? Not what my son who sat said and other parents confirmed there kids said the same.

SAmum26 · 11/01/2026 21:05

jdr1234 · 06/01/2026 20:01

Ds sat the St Albans exam today, there didn’t look like there was more than 100 kids - I know there was yesterday as well but surely must be more than 200 kids sitting…anyone know? I assume there was only one session today as was 8.30-1.30.

100 seems a lot… I / other parents estimated 25 in each group. But I couldn’t believe the numbers would be so low!! All the best to you. The wait is torture. My DS has wanted to go here for years….the waiting is harder than the lead up / prep 🤪

jdr1234 · 11/01/2026 21:16

@SAmum26 think def looked fair bit more than 25 in my sons group and the later group hadn’t come out yet. Fingers crossed everyone gets good news this week for a call back 🤞

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jdr1234 · 11/01/2026 21:18

There is definetely more than 100 kids sitting that wouldn’t even fill there normal offer quota! Let’s hope it’s 200 and not 300 though!

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Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 04:43

They split the groups up into 2 groups the Tuesday I went. If DS surname was between A- M he would have been in the first group who had already finished and were waiting to be picked up. The second group N- Z finished half hour later and us parents had to wait in the hall for them.

Something that has been on my mind though- how many children were at the assessment day for the deferred year 9 entry and how many were there to start to start in year 7 as it was the same assessment for both routes. Most prep schools finish in year 8 so assuming there will be more spaces for those coming from state schools for the year 7 entry. Any thoughts?

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 04:59

My DS actually mentioned seeing over hundred children there including both groups as he made a friend in the first group but got moved to the second group and didn’t see him again after that. It’s hard to judge as we did not get to go into the school at the beginning of the day, just dropped him off at the gates in the morning so its hard to gage how many students were there altogether and when it was time to pick him, half of them were already gone as my ds was in the later group, so it’s anyone’s guess

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:24

jdr1234 · 11/01/2026 21:18

There is definetely more than 100 kids sitting that wouldn’t even fill there normal offer quota! Let’s hope it’s 200 and not 300 though!

Yes I agree with you on how low it seems. But also just not sure how we get to 200. As those who were there on the day (including myself) said there were not more than 50-60 kids on each day of the 5th and 6th. That leaves me thinking there must have been a bigger day elsewhere but I know the day on the 8th was least preferred as school is back in session. Make it make sense!!!

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:27

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:24

Yes I agree with you on how low it seems. But also just not sure how we get to 200. As those who were there on the day (including myself) said there were not more than 50-60 kids on each day of the 5th and 6th. That leaves me thinking there must have been a bigger day elsewhere but I know the day on the 8th was least preferred as school is back in session. Make it make sense!!!

Also just to add, the days of the 5th and 6th were 2 AM sessions only. There is no way they could have run multiple afternoon sessions if you consider the morning slots was 8.15-1315-1345 (we didn’t leave until home 1345.)

they would have had kids there until 6. Wouldn’t have happened. And this is my point. I know the numbers should be higher.,.based on previous years…but I’m not sure they are!!

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 06:30

according to their website their is actually 144 places available between the yr 7 entry and deferred entry (72 places for each) which is interesting. Just a matter of how many were there for each entry point.

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:31

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 04:43

They split the groups up into 2 groups the Tuesday I went. If DS surname was between A- M he would have been in the first group who had already finished and were waiting to be picked up. The second group N- Z finished half hour later and us parents had to wait in the hall for them.

Something that has been on my mind though- how many children were at the assessment day for the deferred year 9 entry and how many were there to start to start in year 7 as it was the same assessment for both routes. Most prep schools finish in year 8 so assuming there will be more spaces for those coming from state schools for the year 7 entry. Any thoughts?

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I know for a fact there were about 15- 20 kids for 13+ just based on the 15 that I know attended and then there will have been a few more…72 spaces for year 7 and 72 further for 13+ but of course they get applicants for year 9 entry who sit in year 7 and year 8 so they won’t fill the 13+ numbers in this round. I guess what I’m saying is we aren’t talking about 72 spaces only but more like 90-100 as they will allocate some of the 13+ places from the assessments. I’m going to say it - the numbers are not adding up for me this year in the way I have watched for this process in the last few years - help!

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:32

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 06:30

according to their website their is actually 144 places available between the yr 7 entry and deferred entry (72 places for each) which is interesting. Just a matter of how many were there for each entry point.

Exactly…..! Seems like more supply vs demand?

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 06:35

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:27

Also just to add, the days of the 5th and 6th were 2 AM sessions only. There is no way they could have run multiple afternoon sessions if you consider the morning slots was 8.15-1315-1345 (we didn’t leave until home 1345.)

they would have had kids there until 6. Wouldn’t have happened. And this is my point. I know the numbers should be higher.,.based on previous years…but I’m not sure they are!!

Yes definitely no afternoon sessions.. hopefully numbers are down!! Just not sure why the teacher would indicate the higher numbers I mentioned earlier. It didn’t look like it to me either and a my DS guess of 100 is not exactly the most reliable source! The parents in group B got sent an email to come abit later, which group was your DS in?

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 06:37

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:32

Exactly…..! Seems like more supply vs demand?

Totally agree!

SAmum26 · 12/01/2026 06:39

Purple2316 · 12/01/2026 06:35

Yes definitely no afternoon sessions.. hopefully numbers are down!! Just not sure why the teacher would indicate the higher numbers I mentioned earlier. It didn’t look like it to me either and a my DS guess of 100 is not exactly the most reliable source! The parents in group B got sent an email to come abit later, which group was your DS in?

He was in the later group but I didn’t get the email until after I had left to collect so ended up seeing the first and second group. To be honest it’s probably a little more than 50-60 but not 100.

ive asked my son again and he defo said no way were there 100…:I’ve also heard Habs is down significantly this year so nothing would surprise me. Again I may be wishful thinking as SAS is our number one choice!

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