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Latymer upper 11+ 2026 year 7

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Aimhigh20 · 18/12/2025 15:54

What’s people thoughts on latymer giving up gcses?
They will only keep maths and English?

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HawaiiWake · 18/12/2025 16:48

This would stop any movements for sixth forms into another schools, such as Westminster, as they all ask for GCSEs grades and in more than 2 subjects. US universities asking for SAT but also ask for GCSEs marks too. If they stopping GCSEs except for 2 subjects, would they be doing more A levels?

stormahoy · 18/12/2025 20:01

There was a very long thread on this last year I think. Lots of foreign parents were in favour as most other countries have no form of testing at the UK GCSE stage.
Not many DCs leave at Sixth Form and other schools don’t all specify GCSEs. Kings Wimbledon for example don’t. It’s based on exams and interviews. If someone nails the Westminster entrance exams and interview I suspect they’d ask LU for more info, in the same way they ask for information on a pupil coming from overseas that may not have done GCSEs either.

I don’t think they’re necessarily going to be doing more A levels as they’re still going to be teaching all the subjects in year 11, just not sitting the GCSEs.

Gilmoreleaves · 20/12/2025 00:18

Views on GCSE vs not aside I don’t trust latymer to come up with a robust well organised alternative to GCSE’s sorry but it’s a very poorly organised school in our extensive experience ( have two DCs there and bother will leaving before Sixth form ) . I wouldnt want to be one of the first few year groups trialling this either.

stormahoy · 20/12/2025 00:59

Fair enough @Gilmoreleaves . Not our experience at all - very happy with the school. Very few left in DC’s year group for sixth form.

HawaiiWake · 20/12/2025 02:22

Overseas students joining at sixth form entry in UK schools would have studied UK curriculum and iGCSEs. Families we know applying have been told they had to sit school exams and give at least 8 GCSEs grades. The kids have done a few iGCSEs in Year 10 and will do more in Year 11. So IGCSEs level are still important. Those that only do their National exams can only apply to UK universities and some may need to do a Foundation year to see they are up to UK standard. The other option is IB, which is set outside school internal exam structure.

stormahoy · 20/12/2025 11:17

OP- I’d wait to see if your DC gets an offer and if they do, you will be invited to an offer holder event where they will cover the changes and you will be able to ask questions.

Aimhigh20 · 05/02/2026 14:46

yes offer day is next week and I am very nervous - I’m waiting for latymer upper /Hampton boys/ibstock school and tiffins m….

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Hypocrisyagain · 22/02/2026 22:20

What’s making lots of people I know hesitant is that this was originally presented as the start of a wider shift — Latymer Upper were quite explicit at the time of the announcement that other independent schools would soon follow their lead. That just hasn’t happened. No one else has dropped GCSEs since.

If anything, we’re seeing the opposite. A number of top schools have gone out of their way to say they’re sticking with GCSEs, simply treating them as a baseline rather than the main focus — Westminster and Highgate being the obvious examples.

Among many parents in West London, including those who’ve just been through the 11+ process, there’s also little appetite for going down the Latymer route unless there’s no other strong local alternative. Our prep head and others at prep schools where we have friends have been similarly cautious in advising for it.

We’ve been told that Latymer is still receiving a volume of applications, particularly from families aiming for bursaries, but that overall uptake compared with similar schools is now definitely lower unless bursary support is involved. In that sense, it now feels more like a first-choice option versus a local state school, rather than versus other academic independents.

At the moment, it’s essentially just Latymer and Bedales doing their own thing, on the basis that GCSEs are too easy for their pupils. That may or may not be true, but in the current climate, going against the national norm doesn’t feel especially wise — particularly when universities already seem wary of private schools and them doing something “special” for their “special” pupils

Gilmoreleaves · 23/02/2026 09:23

@Hypocrisyagain you’ve hit the nail on the head so to say and I would be wary of the people singing its praises online. Many of those are bursary applicants who are thrilled with getting a space and a free education at an independent school but many of those paying for Latymer are not very happy. The difference between the offering at neighbouring independent schools and Latymer is vast. I speak from experience. It is hugely popular with bursary applicants given it’s obsession with reaching a 1 out of 2 on bursary by 2029 which if you think about it financially is crazy and cannot be achieved without significant decline in provision that will affect what the School is able to offer as an independent.

GCSEornot · 23/02/2026 13:22

Gilmoreleaves · 23/02/2026 09:23

@Hypocrisyagain you’ve hit the nail on the head so to say and I would be wary of the people singing its praises online. Many of those are bursary applicants who are thrilled with getting a space and a free education at an independent school but many of those paying for Latymer are not very happy. The difference between the offering at neighbouring independent schools and Latymer is vast. I speak from experience. It is hugely popular with bursary applicants given it’s obsession with reaching a 1 out of 2 on bursary by 2029 which if you think about it financially is crazy and cannot be achieved without significant decline in provision that will affect what the School is able to offer as an independent.

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Second this whole heartedly (also a current parent there). GCSE or not is one thing. Latymer upper or another academic independent school is another.

W4mamabear · 23/02/2026 13:29

Following this thread with a lot of interest as we make the choice between LU and others for our DD this week. We are on waitlist for G&L unfortunately and Hammersmith works best as a location for us - she also has her heart set on LU for various reasons but I am not fully convinced and am tying myself in knots over it. Will go to the offer holder events this week and the Heads tour to better understand what’s on offer

stormahoy · 23/02/2026 13:37

Never heard of the 1 in 2 bursary aim and it wouldn’t make a difference to fee income anyway as is covered by a separate foundation. There also seems to be a slight implication in some of these posts that the bursary students are somehow inferior. Can safely say that they are amongst the brightest in DCs year. Can only speak from experience that we are very happy with the school. DC has friends at LU with siblings at G&L, Westminster, St Paul’s etc and all the parents ( who I know well) are happy as well. It does have a different feel to the single sex schools but that is to be expected.

GCSEornot · 23/02/2026 13:48

Just to be really clear, I’m not implying that bursary pupils are in any way inferior — if anything, from what I’ve seen, the opposite is often true. Many of the most academic full-fee pupils have gone on to Westminster, SPGS, SPS. Whereas many of the strongest bursary pupils simply don’t have grammar schools available to them locally.

The point I do agree with from the other poster is that Latymer Upper arguably is a great option — and represents better value — if you’re on a bursary rather than paying full fees, simply because the realistic alternatives look quite different in those two situations.

Gilmoreleaves · 23/02/2026 13:54

@stormahoy absolutely the bursary students are not inferior and no debate whether they’re bright or not. The point is they’re not paying for a place and with independent school fees for others going up and costs in general increasing it is very hard for the School to provide what an independent School would/ should with so many students not being fee paying aiming for 1 in 2 which I would probe the School yourself is very much an aim they’ve been working towards in the next couple of years so very much a real thing but completely changes the profile and atmosphere of the School. Latymer spend every waking day begging for money- frankly it’s excessive and embarrassing. Have previously been very much involved in some of the donor/ fundraining I have removed myself as I don’t feel like its sustainable and now hugely affecting the quality of the provision that many fee paying students are and should be expecting. They give the talk and do a good PR speech but when you’re in the school, I’m sorry but the teaching provision is not good enough . The extra curricular offering is all smoke and mirrors the trips and activities that they used to be known for are incredibly poorly organised and hard to get if you want anything decent -definitely not a selling point compared to many other independent schools regarding whether they’re coed or single sex is irrelevant.
11k a term schools need to offer students a selling point over the local state schools some of which I would argue have a better provision and certainly better teaching staff. There of course, some fantastic teachers at Latymer but unfortunately they are now the minority.
The reason for all the applicants to Latymer is it’s the only coed in West London so those for who this factor is important will only apply there. It is natural selection of very bright students in a very convenient location of central London. I do think of course many students will do well there but they are naturally bright and survive Latymer but would’ve thrived somewhere else that had more money/time per head than latymer does for it students.

stormahoy · 23/02/2026 14:28

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kundalini7 · 23/02/2026 14:35

What would worry me with this initiative to abolish GCSEs is that, even at Latymer, not all pupils move on to A-levels. There were a few in DC's year who essentially dropped out due to mental health issues and are now working in jobs where A-levels are not needed - eg. one went into beauty therapy. But you need basic GCSE's for that! If you went to an interview for a hairdressing job and told them you didn't have GCSEs because tour school didn't do them, they might think it was just an excuse! Outside of the people who use these schools, most people have never heard of them.

Also, Oxford uni (to name just one) use contextualised GCSE scores to filter who they invite to interview. Are they supposed to exempt those applying from LU and Bedales? As someone said unthread, unis are already suspicious of the special circumstances / unfair advantages which may apply to those applying from privileged schools. The last thing students need is more attention drawn to this.

Gilmoreleaves · 23/02/2026 16:55

@stormahoy absolutely not arguing that some kids and parents are perfectly happy. I’m just saying perhaps the provision has changed but I have two children at the school one in year eight and one in year 10 and I do not think Latymer has offered sufficient value added to what their friends in other so to say comparable schools have had. I don’t think it’s my kids both of them pretty popular outgoing, sporty and not odd or needing special attention but I as a parent paying those fees do expect teachers with at least a bit of experience.
unfortunately over the last few years I’ve seen more and more teachers hired that just aren’t experienced enough and are probably cheaper hires. Maybe that’s an issue all over London but apparently not as much from what I hear . This isn’t a “ my kid isn’t happy “post it’s a factual provision lacking and quality is poor. My kid has nice friends and is the type that should fit latymer perfectly but for the school fees we pay the opportunities and teaching level is just not good enough -nothing to do with happiness. Just to give it a bit of context this post isn’t coming from a parent with a miserable child. I do think paying the fees that independent schools command these days you do expect a certain level of provision and opportunity in exchange. All I’m saying is Latymer falls short and their dropping GCSEs punt would put it at the bottom of my list when choosing a school.
good luck to all making these decisions this week and just to add if a school is great I absolutely would sing its praises not just negatives but it always amazes me how the glaring issues at Latymer seemed to be glazed over

stormahoy · 23/02/2026 18:42

@Gilmoreleaves - fair point, maybe we’ve been lucky with teachers. Lots that have been around for years. I think it’s actually a London wide problem. Teachers can’t afford to live here and move out. Certainly friends at Godolphin, Kings etc say their teachers leave as well. Having said that, my daughter at another school had some amazing younger teachers. But I have also heard complaints at LU that some teachers are too old fashioned and have been around too long so it is hard to please everyone!
Professionally I have quite a lot to do with a few other schools and know people who work at some of the most sought after and they’ve all basically got the same issues. I just don’t think LU has any particular issues that are majorly different from other local schools.

kundalini7 · 23/02/2026 20:06

My take on LU was that the teachers got better as they progressed up the school - certainly by 6th form there were some really fantastic ones. In Years 7-9 it was more hit and miss. This was a few years ago though, under the previous head.

Bigmove25 · 04/03/2026 14:24

Gilmoreleaves · 23/02/2026 09:23

@Hypocrisyagain you’ve hit the nail on the head so to say and I would be wary of the people singing its praises online. Many of those are bursary applicants who are thrilled with getting a space and a free education at an independent school but many of those paying for Latymer are not very happy. The difference between the offering at neighbouring independent schools and Latymer is vast. I speak from experience. It is hugely popular with bursary applicants given it’s obsession with reaching a 1 out of 2 on bursary by 2029 which if you think about it financially is crazy and cannot be achieved without significant decline in provision that will affect what the School is able to offer as an independent.

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@Hypocrisyagain It is hugely popular with bursary applicants given it’s obsession with reaching a 1 out of 2 on bursary by 2029 which if you think about it financially is crazy and cannot be achieved without significant decline in provision that will affect what the School is able to offer as an independent.

Really? That's insane, unless they are sat on a huge amount of capital or have very grateful alumni willing to give huge donations, how can they think it is sustainable. Was this also an ambition of the previous head or is it coming from the current one? Other schools are sensitive to the increases parents are paying and keep a lid, or reducing, bursaries (or giving them to current parents who are now struggling).

Do staff also get a discount on fees? More would be getting it for a discount than paying the full fee. I can't see parents being happy to fund a 'buy-one-some-other-gets-one-free'.

stormahoy · 04/03/2026 14:41

The 1 in 2 bursaries keeps being mentioned and is categorically not a target! It was 1 in 4 last year for their 400 anniversary and that has been reached. Remember most are not full bursaries. Bursaries are funded by a separate foundation and primarily by alumni these days. Same with most schools. I’m asked all the time by my old school to donate to their bursary fund!

Gilmoreleaves · 04/03/2026 18:22

It was indeed a previous target that has been met but they are actually aiming for one in two as a next target -it was started by the previous head and is being equally supported and driven by the current head. regardless of what you say regarding it being a different fund, the one for which they beg for every moment of every day, it also means that when kids apply for trips those trips are free for bursary students and there are very few spots for trips and rightfully so you can ask for assistamce ( free trip ) for that trip however that means as a full fee paying kid, your chances of getting a spot on any trip are very low even though you’re paying full fees for the school. On top of that the trips are open to two or even sometimes three year groups which are around 190 students per year with roughly 30 to 40 spots on a trip so you do the Maths of what your odds are if even a third of those students apply for that trip .I’m sorry but that’s just not equal to other independent schools in the area where if you’re studying a language at GCSE youre guaranteed a language trip or exchanged to that country.This is not the case at Latymer at all. This is not an opinion this is just a fact obviously that won’t matter to some people but if you’re paying over 10K a term for School I certainly would expect my child to have those opportunities including extracurricular and trips. Just food for thought

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