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Re-marks, worth it?

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Orangesandlemons77 · 21/08/2025 14:11

A teacher emailed to tell me DS was one point off a 6 in a subject (GCSEs) and looking at his scores he is also one point off an 8 in another. He is taking the latter subject for A level but not the other.

She asked if we wanted a re-mark of the 6? Is it worth getting the two subjects re-marked? It costs about £45 and no guarantee of a change in grade.

DS says he is happy with the grades as they are as he has got in for 6th form etc, but I wondered if it would make any difference to for example UCAS points for university? I expect they would be mainly bothered about the A level grades though.

Any advice welcome. And best of luck to anyone getting their exam results today or dealing with re-marks / resits etc.

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Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 12:51

Aspidistree · 22/08/2025 12:44

I'm so sorry you're in that situation. FWIW it was not an option for us either but we found it valuable to look at the script ourselves, with the mark scheme, even though we are not experts. It may get you nowhere, but you never know. Or does your school charge for the student to get a copy of their own script too?

Yh, £10. That's why I don't think it's worth it. £10 to see the script, £10 to have the teacher look at it. Then another £55 to have it officially reviewed, regardless of exam board it's £55 as it includes another admin fee. I might as well just pay the £55 if it takes £20 to get the teacher to look! If I went through the whole process with the school it would be £75 per paper!

noblegiraffe · 22/08/2025 13:01

If the teacher looks at it they might be able to save you the £55 though by either telling you it's not worth it so you don't bother remarking, or that it's definitely worth it because the marking is bobbins so you get refunded the £55.

Aspidistree · 22/08/2025 13:01

Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 12:51

Yh, £10. That's why I don't think it's worth it. £10 to see the script, £10 to have the teacher look at it. Then another £55 to have it officially reviewed, regardless of exam board it's £55 as it includes another admin fee. I might as well just pay the £55 if it takes £20 to get the teacher to look! If I went through the whole process with the school it would be £75 per paper!

hm. If she gets PP I'd be tempted to ask if there's anything in the PP pot they could raid. But perhaps you have already tried.

I'm sorry it does seem very unfair.

Apologies @MrsHamlet I am bringing my own baggage having been a bit bruised by this last year. It can feel a bit like being gaslit when experiences vary so much between schools.

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2025 13:05

That's fine @Aspidistree - I know this is a contentious issue for lots of reasons.

Every exam envelope had a sheet in it yesterday with info about next steps - access to scripts etc - and everything is also on our website.

I agree that the playing field should be level - it's one reason why it's now a review and not a remark - but I try to give advice to support people dealing with sometimes less than clear processes.

I'm sorry you got bruised.

Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 13:09

noblegiraffe · 22/08/2025 13:01

If the teacher looks at it they might be able to save you the £55 though by either telling you it's not worth it so you don't bother remarking, or that it's definitely worth it because the marking is bobbins so you get refunded the £55.

Honestly though, I've read so many different stories about the success of reviews and teachers being wrong I just think ultimately you don't know for sure what will happen unless you send it off for the official review. For us this is the difference in DD being able to do a Level 3 course Vs level 2 so if I don't send them off for official review I'll always question whether the teacher was right or what if. The teacher looking at it would only save me £35 as I'd still need to lay £20 for that privilege (£10 for script and £10 for the teacher to review), so I'd rather pay the extra £35 for peace of mind and not waste the teachers time, esp as I don't believe they'll be seeing that admin money anyway, so I'm just giving the more work.

Orangesandlemons77 · 22/08/2025 13:16

noblegiraffe · 22/08/2025 13:01

If the teacher looks at it they might be able to save you the £55 though by either telling you it's not worth it so you don't bother remarking, or that it's definitely worth it because the marking is bobbins so you get refunded the £55.

That's what the teachers are advising. Thanks

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Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 13:16

@SE13Mummy I agree, there should be a standardised sheet from ofqual that all kids get with their results and saying that, the results sheet should also be standardised as it looks so different school to school. Some kids get a grade and mark next to it, some don't. Some have the exam board, some don't. It's really unfair and makes the review process really inaccessible to most kids unless they already know the system or have a parent or teacher that's involved.
I think standardising this would make things a lot easier for schools and exams officers as well.

WombatChocolate · 22/08/2025 13:58

I think a lot of schools really aren’t interested in doing follow/up to give students the best final outcomes. This can especially be the case in 11-16 places where everyone leaves and won’t be seen again.

I agree that all students should receive their grade, total marks and breakdown for papers plus the grade boundaries and info about the process for requesting scripts and review of marking, with charges.

However if this info was available to all far more would want review of marking. The system would be overloaded

It wouldn’t be unreasonable for candidates to be able request their scripts and request a review via the centre without teacher input. There is certainly a limit to how many scripts a teacher can be asked to reasonably look at….and crucially when. For A Level for priority re/mark the week long period is all within the school holiday. Sixth Form colleges can have hundreds sitting individual subjects. Potentially hundreds might want reviews in the holiday. So it falls on students.

I actually don’t think it’s it reasonable for families to have to decide without teachers. BUT to do this students and families need full info about grades, boundaries and paper breakdown. Many don’t have this.

One reason some schools don’t provide all this info is that they only receive their grade results the day before and I’m a format which needs a lot of processing to get ready for students the next day. Grade boundaries are often not actually available until 8am of results day - so actually getting th ready to send out with results at 8am/9am might not be possible. But an email with links to relevant websites and details of the specification followed by the school (there are often lots of different ones and this is confusing) could be sent out. Certainly school policies, costs and details of when and if someone is available for support could also be sent.

Sometimes the info is sent but remains buried in student emails. Sometimes it’s not sent. But often parents only start realising what info might be useful the day after results day and by then it’s hard to get from school or college.

Essentially much of this is to do with education underfunding. Exam markers are poorly paid and in short supply with poorly qualified people being needed. Marking is a bit of a lottery. And many students and families have little idea about the info needed to make sensible decisions about whether to have a review or not. And that’s before cost implications. Schools have no spare cash for this. But the genuine cost is what reviews charge at. Schools can’t really be suggesting or highlighting reviews too much, in the same way they can’t push anything chargeable too much, as many can’t afford it. Schools might spot some likely anomolied but can’t afford to get them looked into. There is zero cash. So it’s affluent parents who can fork out who tend to get the reviews. It’s not the school faults that they can’t afford to pay for it, nor should they be expecting teachers to do lots of script checking and advising / I’m the end the student takes responsibility and risk of grade dropping. But as seen the drop was 0.1% so generally worth looking into. The boards prob don’t want these figures known as they don’t want too many reviews to manage and the more corrected grades, the more the system loses credibility.

Hsbing seem teacher sssessed graded in Covid, exams still remain the best system though…

tostaky · 22/08/2025 16:04

Thank you this all all very informative!
my DS is one point short of an 8 in English Lang but as someone mentioned earlier, it is unlikely to move ao i will leave it
the PE teacher is asking for the NEA to be remoderarated (or something) My DS is missing 4 points to go from a 5 to a 6…. I wonder he could get those 4 points?

london111 · 22/08/2025 16:12

Does anyone know if there is a private service where an examiner will review the paper for a fee before submitting a formal review request to the exam board. Mine missed a critical grade but really worried about the risk of going down. School has been clear that they will not review any papers as they don’t have time. And I have no idea what I am looking for! It’s only one paper.

Aspidistree · 22/08/2025 16:31

london111 · 22/08/2025 16:12

Does anyone know if there is a private service where an examiner will review the paper for a fee before submitting a formal review request to the exam board. Mine missed a critical grade but really worried about the risk of going down. School has been clear that they will not review any papers as they don’t have time. And I have no idea what I am looking for! It’s only one paper.

It's a great (if depressing) business idea.

Not quite what you are asking, but parents I know have paid private tutors to review scripts.

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 17:16

OP.

I'm an EO at a private school. We don't charge for scripts and have downloaded over 150 since yesterday for pupils.

Presumably they have told you that there's no charge at all if the grade changes? So 6-7? No charge.

I've had several grade increases already.

The least likely to go up are maths and science, but if your subject teacher can find a missing mark then they usually go up. It's is very hard to find missing marks in maths and science!
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NotDonna · 22/08/2025 17:44

@Notsurewheretostarthere Does that mean the Examinations Officer can access the scripts immediately (eg yesterday) if the student gave permission onsite? They don’t take ages to come back? That’s pretty good, if so!

Simonjt · 22/08/2025 18:20

Mimbl · 22/08/2025 12:33

Sometimes school pays if it's their suggestion, as they think a positive change likely (especially if this helps their measures eg. 9-7 inc E and M, as many results in most subjects won't change much for anyone if kids are already accepted to courses).

Teachers and heads of dept will read and reflect on the specific scripts they want to anyway without speaking to pupils of their parents, as part of their own results analysis.

But it's interesting that so many think the obvious answer is to pay nothing for a script and 'get' someone qualified to give their opinion for free and I wonder if those are the same people who think teachers don't have extra expectations upon their unpaid time than other professions.

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Accessing any scripts without consent from students gained from results day onwards is malpractice.

Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 18:30

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 17:16

OP.

I'm an EO at a private school. We don't charge for scripts and have downloaded over 150 since yesterday for pupils.

Presumably they have told you that there's no charge at all if the grade changes? So 6-7? No charge.

I've had several grade increases already.

The least likely to go up are maths and science, but if your subject teacher can find a missing mark then they usually go up. It's is very hard to find missing marks in maths and science!
.

You've had official GCSE mark reviews come back overnight?!

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 18:31

Foxesandsquirrels · 22/08/2025 18:30

You've had official GCSE mark reviews come back overnight?!

Yes. A clerical check and an ROR were both back in 2hrs.

They do say 20 working days though.

Mimbl · 22/08/2025 18:39

Simonjt · 22/08/2025 18:20

Accessing any scripts without consent from students gained from results day onwards is malpractice.

Without consent from students gained from results day onwards? What does this mean?

Because we asked all pupils to sign (having explained and given them the choice) at the start of exam season when we sent a check of details for certificates. They hadn't sat the exams then, but I don't think this is a requirement.

noblegiraffe · 22/08/2025 18:39

NotDonna · 22/08/2025 17:44

@Notsurewheretostarthere Does that mean the Examinations Officer can access the scripts immediately (eg yesterday) if the student gave permission onsite? They don’t take ages to come back? That’s pretty good, if so!

I know some schools send out a form via email asking for blanket permission to access scripts on the morning of results day so they then can look at whatever they think needs it.

Orangesandlemons77 · 22/08/2025 18:42

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 17:16

OP.

I'm an EO at a private school. We don't charge for scripts and have downloaded over 150 since yesterday for pupils.

Presumably they have told you that there's no charge at all if the grade changes? So 6-7? No charge.

I've had several grade increases already.

The least likely to go up are maths and science, but if your subject teacher can find a missing mark then they usually go up. It's is very hard to find missing marks in maths and science!
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It is maths and science those are the teachers who have contacted us, apparently DS is one point out in one of them. Anyway we will return the forms and see what they say after they have looked at them, they need the form for the script it seems.

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MrsHamlet · 22/08/2025 18:54

Mimbl · 22/08/2025 18:39

Without consent from students gained from results day onwards? What does this mean?

Because we asked all pupils to sign (having explained and given them the choice) at the start of exam season when we sent a check of details for certificates. They hadn't sat the exams then, but I don't think this is a requirement.

It is a requirement. You cannot seek consent beforehand.

https://www.jcq.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Post-Results-Service_25_FINAL.pdf

Section 4.2.1

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 18:54

NotDonna · 22/08/2025 17:44

@Notsurewheretostarthere Does that mean the Examinations Officer can access the scripts immediately (eg yesterday) if the student gave permission onsite? They don’t take ages to come back? That’s pretty good, if so!

No, we send a blank consent form out in June.

Then from 8am when the results go out, it's open season on requests!

The students are at private school... They are seriously motivated by any grade less than 9! We had tens of requests by mid morning. All teaching staff are available to review papers from yesterday and recommend, or not, reviews of marking.

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 18:56

{mention:NotDonna}sorry@NotDonnasorry
I meant to say, the papers come back immediately. They are free and instant.

It takes me 3 minutes to download a few papers.

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 18:56

What might take time is being in the EO queue.

Simonjt · 22/08/2025 19:03

Mimbl · 22/08/2025 18:39

Without consent from students gained from results day onwards? What does this mean?

Because we asked all pupils to sign (having explained and given them the choice) at the start of exam season when we sent a check of details for certificates. They hadn't sat the exams then, but I don't think this is a requirement.

Consent can only be gained from results day forward. What your school did/that centre is malpractice.

Simonjt · 22/08/2025 19:05

Notsurewheretostarthere · 22/08/2025 18:54

No, we send a blank consent form out in June.

Then from 8am when the results go out, it's open season on requests!

The students are at private school... They are seriously motivated by any grade less than 9! We had tens of requests by mid morning. All teaching staff are available to review papers from yesterday and recommend, or not, reviews of marking.

Thats malpractice.