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Leaving private school for state 6th form - experiences?

316 replies

WomensRightsRenegade · 20/07/2025 20:47

I did ask this once before but it was quite a while ago now so I was just wondering if this was something more people were doing/ thinking about doing?

Thanks to the VAT increase my son had his bursary halved (from 100pc) and it looks like it’s about to be reduced further or removed. I guess they have no need to rush confirmation seeing as they will know parents will do almost anything to avoid moving schools for year 11. It’s all been quite nasty really. Seeing behind the gloss and the taglines about how they care for the boys like family has been illuminating.

Anyhow DS is utterly heartbroken at having to leave when he is so happy. He is very talented musically and was so looking forward to continuing in the ensembles and taking Music A level there. It’s going to be an agonising last year as he can’t even let anyone know he’s leaving until April. No local sixth forms to us even offer Music A level and the nearest college is a lottery system.

Are other people facing having to remove kids against the child’s will? I am so worried he will always think we could have found a way, even though he’s said nothing to us except that he understands the situation totally. Academically I’m sure he’ll be fine if he works hard, but socially and musically it feels like it could be a very abrupt end. If I could go back in time I would never EVER have accepted the bursary. This was always the risk.

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LiterallyMelting · 23/07/2025 18:30

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 23/07/2025 16:26

The hilarious thing is that unis are falling over themselves to make offers to foreign students, who pay much higher fees.

Do any of the ‘private school parents are bad’ mafia give a shit about that? Are they campaigning to stop those rich foreign students from their significant % of uni places?

*It's ok we know the answer.

My answer will be private school pupils also pay full fee like overseas students. Simples.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 23/07/2025 18:35

LiterallyMelting · 23/07/2025 18:30

My answer will be private school pupils also pay full fee like overseas students. Simples.

? My point was about offers made. Simple.

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2025 19:03

LiterallyMelting · 23/07/2025 18:30

My answer will be private school pupils also pay full fee like overseas students. Simples.

No, they don't. Overseas students pay higher fees than UK students.

twistyizzy · 23/07/2025 19:10

LiterallyMelting · 23/07/2025 18:30

My answer will be private school pupils also pay full fee like overseas students. Simples.

So kids from independent schools should pay same price as overseas students? Even though they are UK citizens? Wow, just wow. You are saddling them with double the debt of an average UK resident student just because of a choice their parents made?

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 23/07/2025 19:11

twistyizzy · 23/07/2025 19:10

So kids from independent schools should pay same price as overseas students? Even though they are UK citizens? Wow, just wow. You are saddling them with double the debt of an average UK resident student just because of a choice their parents made?

The bitterness knows no bounds Chez Labour

EasternStandard · 23/07/2025 19:13

LiterallyMelting · 23/07/2025 18:30

My answer will be private school pupils also pay full fee like overseas students. Simples.

You want some U.K. students to pay much more? It’s just so much taking at this point. Can you not offer to stump up more if that’s what you’re after.

MonGrainDeSel · 23/07/2025 19:13

Oh, I see, sorry, she was suggesting they should? That seems pretty odd. What about the kids who finished private school without their bursaries being taken away?

Araminta1003 · 23/07/2025 19:53

The country is already an unproductive mess. I doubt disincentivising those who work hard and pay a lot of tax even more will lead to more money. It typically leads to people working less, taking more up in terms of services or leaving the country. We are already at that unproductive point. When you remove educational choices for the hard working and ambitious, it costs us all dearly. London housing market is crashing, the pound is already in decline. Let’s mess it up even more, shall we? I don’t think so. Sounds more like some unwelcome visitors to the site, yet again, who actually want to harm our country.

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 09:02

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 23/07/2025 19:11

The bitterness knows no bounds Chez Labour

Pretty sure it’s not Labour policy that private school candidates should pay overseas student university fees.
Just because somebody says something you disagree with doesn’t mean it’s Labour policy!

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 10:29

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 09:02

Pretty sure it’s not Labour policy that private school candidates should pay overseas student university fees.
Just because somebody says something you disagree with doesn’t mean it’s Labour policy!

Labour policy is more about impacting bursary kids, such as op’s.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 24/07/2025 10:34

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 09:02

Pretty sure it’s not Labour policy that private school candidates should pay overseas student university fees.
Just because somebody says something you disagree with doesn’t mean it’s Labour policy!

Never said anything about policy. It’s a mindset. And it’s an ugly nasty mindset. I’m glad I don’t live in it. Though pissed off we all have to live with it. For now.

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 10:39

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 24/07/2025 10:34

Never said anything about policy. It’s a mindset. And it’s an ugly nasty mindset. I’m glad I don’t live in it. Though pissed off we all have to live with it. For now.

Yep. Sure.

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 12:24

Don't worry, CurlewKate will find some way to spin that as a positive 🙄 Labour die hards do a great job in gaslighting.

User2346 · 24/07/2025 12:31

Don’t I am truly scared of what is going to happen but that is another thread 😢

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 12:32

User2346 · 24/07/2025 12:31

Don’t I am truly scared of what is going to happen but that is another thread 😢

Even the unions are starting to express concerns. Although it's partly their fault in the first place!!

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 24/07/2025 13:03

User2346 · 24/07/2025 12:31

Don’t I am truly scared of what is going to happen but that is another thread 😢

I’m so sorry 😞. I can’t actually believe what Labour are doing. It goes against all that the party has stood for in days gone by.

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 14:00

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 12:24

Don't worry, CurlewKate will find some way to spin that as a positive 🙄 Labour die hards do a great job in gaslighting.

I’m not going to comment at all until the White Paper is published. If that’s spinning it as a positive so be it.

Lucyintheskywithdiamonnds · 24/07/2025 14:08

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 14:00

I’m not going to comment at all until the White Paper is published. If that’s spinning it as a positive so be it.

Luke Sibieta from the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) has warned that the £4.6bn deficit on councils’ school funding identified by the NAO will, by 2028, “be more like £8bn unless the Government changes something radically”.

Ah. That would be the Luke Sibieta who wrote a fundamentally flawed report waffling about introducing VAT on children’s education? That Labour did with lightening fast speed, despite having no real data to support their decision.

It’s strange they’re taking so long to clarify the SEND ‘reforms’ for parents isn’t it. They worked so quickly with the tax on education.

https://inews.co.uk/news/how-send-reforms-affect-all-pupils-3801634?srsltid=AfmBOopoOYcUjJ95neyB1mcpDgW6Lb0GSA5rT77shhfa_sIxXeMqn6Tm&ico=in-line_link

How SEND reforms could affect all pupils from funding fears to teacher workload

A huge SEND shake-up is set to be Labour's next big showdown and could affect every state school pupil in England. This is what all parents should know

https://inews.co.uk/news/how-send-reforms-affect-all-pupils-3801634?ico=in-line_link&srsltid=AfmBOopoOYcUjJ95neyB1mcpDgW6Lb0GSA5rT77shhfa_sIxXeMqn6Tm

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 14:10

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 12:24

Don't worry, CurlewKate will find some way to spin that as a positive 🙄 Labour die hards do a great job in gaslighting.

Even when Labour do impact lives such as op’s dc there’s no recognition.

For everything else such as welfare cuts it’s the ‘media speculation’ and waiting for whatever paper until it isn’t. No wonder Labour can rely on votes when cuts are minimised by those who are loyal.

Not particularly re pp but generally on here with die hard Labour posters.

Araminta1003 · 24/07/2025 14:43

Proper funded SEND hubs in all secondary schools would be welcome though. I think the TA system in primaries needs to stay but maybe a centralised support hub for all primaries in an area to share knowledge and staff etc.
At the moment we do have a ridiculous situation where eg one kid qualifies for education costing 170k a year that the parents got vs another kid who got barely anything with at least as severe needs, because the single parent could not advocate for them. If it is automatic and seamless and properly funded for all, then it would be easier. The key issue is how the transition will work, especially if this Government only gets 4 years more. Whatever they do will hopefully bear that in mind so that what is implemented stays, regardless of a party change.

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 18:01

Once again, @WomensRightsRenegadeI’m really sorry your thread has been derailed.

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 18:03

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 18:01

Once again, @WomensRightsRenegadeI’m really sorry your thread has been derailed.

Oh put your wooden spoon away

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 18:27

twistyizzy · 24/07/2025 18:03

Oh put your wooden spoon away

Oh, @twistyizzyyou’re such a card!

EasternStandard · 24/07/2025 18:31

CurlewKate · 24/07/2025 18:01

Once again, @WomensRightsRenegadeI’m really sorry your thread has been derailed.

What can you do, it’s Labour’s real life impact due to policies