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Any experience with language camps in France?

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SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 14/07/2025 10:13

I’d really like to strengthen my child’s French, as I feel the amount of French taught at secondary school isn’t enough to build real fluency or confidence in the language.

I’m considering private lessons with a native speaker (e.g. twice a week),
and sending my child to French language camps during school holidays — ideally with accommodation and full language immersion.

Has anyone here had experience with such camps or residential courses in France?
Can you recommend any reliable organisations that offer high-quality language trips for children around the age of 12?

Any suggestions or reviews would be greatly appreciated!

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dylexicdementor11 · 03/08/2025 13:33

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 17/07/2025 09:55

What a load of nonsense - never said anything like that. I am reporting you offensive and racist post

After reading all of the OPs posts I think the OP is having difficulty understanding what other posters are writing. The OPs response here is nonsensical.

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 03/08/2025 15:51

dylexicdementor11 · 03/08/2025 13:33

After reading all of the OPs posts I think the OP is having difficulty understanding what other posters are writing. The OPs response here is nonsensical.

Are you looking to stir drama in the old thread? I have received information and recommendation I needed and thank you for relevant responses

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SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 03/08/2025 16:12

Maybe I should add.

  1. Suggesting that people living in provincial and tourist regions of France are racists- is a racism.
  1. Stating that we are white blue eye is not racism. It is a fact and written in response that the advice given would be not relevant to to us anyway
  1. Calling somebody priviliged because is white is a racist and narrow minded remark that shows lack of touch with reality. Not all white people are WASP and even if some are we are in XXI century and we should be above such things as amount of pigment in the skin- and I stated that
  1. No, I am not French
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HighburyHope · 03/08/2025 17:58

If a contributor to the thread says her family has experienced racism, it is not OK to minimise that. Not OK to dismiss her family’s experience as just isolated bad luck. Not OK to imply it doesn’t matter because “we’re white” (or whatever) and not likely to experience what they have experienced. Not OK to imply that she is the racist for calling out perpetrators of racism.

OP if you’re trying to bring this thread back to topic, your most recent post is not the right way of going about it.

I will be reporting the thread.

clary · 03/08/2025 19:26

Agree @HighburyHope and also:
anyone who can say we should be above such things as amount of pigment in the skin- and I stated that
is clearly not someone who has themselves experienced racism. If someone who is not white still experiences racism, it’s not OK to minimise it and suggest that we (they?) should be above such things. From a position of privilege (ie being white).

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 11:31

clary · 03/08/2025 19:26

Agree @HighburyHope and also:
anyone who can say we should be above such things as amount of pigment in the skin- and I stated that
is clearly not someone who has themselves experienced racism. If someone who is not white still experiences racism, it’s not OK to minimise it and suggest that we (they?) should be above such things. From a position of privilege (ie being white).

I think that suggesting that provicial and tourist regions in France are racist is very unfair. There are all kind of people living everywhere. I am sympathetic with her experience and do not question validity of her experience but putting a label in what areas ...are racist and what other places are not is simply very bad. It is as if somebody said: in Lincolnshire people are racists.

I am against labeling any areas as more racist than other areas. This is very unfair and racists.

is clearly not someone who has themselves experienced racism.

Trust me the racism is not only a thing directed from white people. It is I am afraid something from any skin colour to any. Yes, white people in South Africa experience racism. Mentioning that white is priviliged is totally racist comment and full of predjuce. Racism goes both ways. All ways for that matter. I find it very unsettling that people understand racism in such limited way.

not OK to minimise it and suggest that we (they?) should be above such things.
And shouldn't we be above such things? We should. And that what I stated. And definitely not label as regions. It is specific narrow minded people who were racists on that lady's experience and not the entire region. Narrow minded people are everywhere.

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SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 11:45

OP if you’re trying to bring this thread back to topic, your most recent post is not the right way of going about it.

This was a thread about recommendations and not about labelling province and tourist area in France as racist. It was not about being racist to me and calling me priviliged.

I am not going to change my mind about being ok to offend any race including white people. And I am not ok with calling France province as racist. Terrible labelling and creating stereotypes
You can report it to the moderators. I will not change my mind even if they remove the thread. I will still I see racism as a broad experience where we should not label any race or region for that matter.

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clary · 04/08/2025 12:56

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 11:31

I think that suggesting that provicial and tourist regions in France are racist is very unfair. There are all kind of people living everywhere. I am sympathetic with her experience and do not question validity of her experience but putting a label in what areas ...are racist and what other places are not is simply very bad. It is as if somebody said: in Lincolnshire people are racists.

I am against labeling any areas as more racist than other areas. This is very unfair and racists.

is clearly not someone who has themselves experienced racism.

Trust me the racism is not only a thing directed from white people. It is I am afraid something from any skin colour to any. Yes, white people in South Africa experience racism. Mentioning that white is priviliged is totally racist comment and full of predjuce. Racism goes both ways. All ways for that matter. I find it very unsettling that people understand racism in such limited way.

not OK to minimise it and suggest that we (they?) should be above such things.
And shouldn't we be above such things? We should. And that what I stated. And definitely not label as regions. It is specific narrow minded people who were racists on that lady's experience and not the entire region. Narrow minded people are everywhere.

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The pp did not say an area of France was racist. They said that their DC experienced racism there. They gave some shocking examples.

You said “they must have had a bad luck” which to me is minimising the experience. Saying they should be above such things is frankly bizarre. Why should anyone have to put up with that kind of offensive treatment?

And yes, anyone white in our current society, especially if they live in the UK (or other countries too) is coming from a place of privilege in all kinds of ways. Look into it if you don’t accept that.

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 13:38

She said provinces ans tourist areas. This is offensive for anybody who lives in France in province or tourist areas. She was offended by specific narrow minded people and extending it to the entire types of regions is very much unfair.

No, white people in UK are not priviliged. You don't see the full picture. People from the country I come from were and are subject to endless xenophopic and racist remarks. It was very common around Brexit and it is still now. I am pretty sure I have not got a job several times because of that. I wouldn't dare to say that the entire company was like that or a type of region in UK this happens more. This is about specific narrow minded people. Yes, it is bad luck to meet them.

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SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 13:45

Under UK law:

“Race” includes:

Ethnic origin

National origin

Nationality

Colour

This means you can be white and a subject of racism in UK based on your nationality. racism is not only in reference to skin pigment

This definition comes from:

The Equality Act 2010

The Crime and Disorder Act 1998

The Public Order Act 1986

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clary · 04/08/2025 14:04

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 13:38

She said provinces ans tourist areas. This is offensive for anybody who lives in France in province or tourist areas. She was offended by specific narrow minded people and extending it to the entire types of regions is very much unfair.

No, white people in UK are not priviliged. You don't see the full picture. People from the country I come from were and are subject to endless xenophopic and racist remarks. It was very common around Brexit and it is still now. I am pretty sure I have not got a job several times because of that. I wouldn't dare to say that the entire company was like that or a type of region in UK this happens more. This is about specific narrow minded people. Yes, it is bad luck to meet them.

They said their dc experienced racism in Province (I assume a typo for Provence) and Tours areas. They advised avoiding these areas if anyone was not white. I can't see where they said the whole area was racist, but the advice seemed reasonable if they encountered issues repeatedly. I would have been offended too and again, I don't see why anyone should have to put up with that.

I don't doubt that xenophobia is directed at white people from other countries in the UK. That's appalling (not bad luck). But still, anyone white has the privilege of not being discriminated against as they walk down the street, before they even open their mouth.

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 04/08/2025 15:40

But people do talk between each other, they hear the accent and are discriminated.

I absolutely do not question the fact that it is appalling. Yet it is bad luck to meet such people because it is not like everybody is racially aggressive in Provence ( or provinces) of France. I do go there quite frequently- last time a year ago I visited Provence. It is a very multicultural area. I would say it can happen but is not something widespread.

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doglover90 · 04/08/2025 19:05

Gosh OP, if I were you I'd stop digging yourself a hole because you are not coming out of this well.

SometimesYouWinSometimesYouLearn · 07/08/2025 12:18

I am sorry but I do not perceive it as a digging in the hole. I stated my opinion and stand by it. You are allowed to your own opinion but do not impose it on me.

Thank you for relevant recommendations of the course organisers from those who posted it.

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