SATs results (didn’t quite meet ARE) and GCSE predictions

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Got my daughter’s KS2 SATs results today.

Maths - 104
Reading - 99
SPAG - 98

I understand that she didn’t quite meet the mark for ‘meeting expectations’ as you need a scaled score of 100 or more. However, she was very close! Will her high school push her to get 4’s in her GCSEs? Just a bit concerned that they won’t based on these results as I know some schools set GCSE targets based on SATs results.

My daughter is dyslexic and has come so far over this past year as she was very far behind (she ended Y5 with a Maths scaled score of 81 and English 91).

I understand that these scores may seem low to some but I’m very proud of her as her confidence was shocking at the beginning of Y6 and she was barely scoring anything on the practice papers. She also suffers from maths anxiety so to not only pass but achieve the score she did is amazing.

Just wondering what the outcome has been for others with similar results x

My son is just finishing year 7 and I know all school work differently but they used the SAT results to set the sets and then had an assesment weeks just after Xmas when some got moved around and they have just had another assessment and some are moving again in September. My point is the sets aren't necessarily permanent and I wouldn't worry.

Whats with the ! ?

I am well aware. I have his results?

My now adult dd bombed SATS (y2 and y6) and did very poorly in CATs, which her secondary used for setting. She was in set 6/8 for maths and 7/8 for English. She came into her own around y9 and ended y11 in set 5 maths and set 4 English and got a 5 in gcse maths and 7&8 in English (think 8 was lit). She got extra time and wouldn’t have done so well without it. I think a lot of dyslexic kids don’t do themselves justice at primary but take off when a bit more thinking is involved. She never got to grips with languages and gave up mentally in y7 and officially after y9. I agree with the “visual learner” advice of a pp - loads of film really helps with English and huge amounts of learning can be done with YouTube. DD did arts based level 3 rather than A-level and is at an arts uni hoping to work in production design.

This is a really insensitive post!

Yeah its really pissed me off.

@K0OLA1D you should rightly be proud of how hard your son has worked for his results. A good work ethic can't be underestimated - my dd is always going on about the 'smart' people who do no work and get 9s (she has worked insanely hard for her grades). Apart from the fact I suspect some of them are lying about how much work they do, I think a lot of success is determined by effort and attitude, not just ability.

His teacher has said how pleased she was with how much he's come on in the last 12 months.

He has always really struggled with school..lockdown didnt help matters.

I've spoken to the SEN team at the high school since his results and they have told me how they'll be able to help him (smaller class) and will speak to him about learning styles etc. My eldest has really come on in high school, as some DC do, and I really hope he does too!

My DC got same scores but in different areas. Maths 99 Reading 104 SPAG 98. They also had 25% extra time for processing. Hoping to get them a private assessment in y7. They are summer born. Definitely going to be pushing for at least those pass 4s (or better). They have weekly Eng Math tuition. They will be fine as long as they make the effort and get the right support. Make sure to emphasise effort over ability. It’s just about keeping them motivated and on the right track. Primary has been a bit of a let down in many aspects (although he’s had some brilliant teachers it hasn’t been consistent! and SEN department much the same) but hoping for Secondary to be a good fresh start!

In maths,* *74% of pupils met the expected standard, up from 73% in 2024.

So that would put your dc in lower 1/4 so would depend how many sets there are for maths.

Looks like 105 is the year average maths sat mark.
I think 100 is around the 4.

I dont think its possibke to predict at individual level.
My dc had 114 in maths and a kid with higher moved down sets at end of y7.
Another kid moved down to dc set from set 1 but is now a simialr level to dc or dc is slightly better.
Secondary (school depending) moves very fast for maths. In y7 we did series, algebra etc. Nowe y8 theyve covered indices rules and pi for volume etc.

What? I have posted information about Sats scaled scores from a government website which is absolutely pertinent to the op's question!! I am assuming she posted a actually wanting an answer, not smoke blown up her orifice!

There was no need for 'only' and the ! That you used. Looks like MN agreed.

I am not the op. If you wanted to help the op, reply to the op. You spoke as though I didn't have my sons results in front of me.

Surely you can understand that for some children their parents would be rightly proud of that result?

Noone lives in such a bubble that they don't realise that!

My son is severely dyslexic and for his SATS at the end of primary school he scored the lowest possible score in English. We took this as a reflection of the support he’d not been given at school!

He went to a senior school with a resourced provision for spld and they absolutely pushed him to get a 4+ in his GCSE. He missed it and got a 3 but I still think that is a tremendous leap from the lowest possible score 5 years previously.

That's fab OP, well done her - she should be rightly proud of herself (I've got a year 6 DS who's also kicked dyslexia's arse this year in his SATS, so know how it feels :-)).
Secondary SHOULD be looking at the trajectory of improvement, with support, that she's been on this year, and at how they can remove barriers to learning so she can continue on that trajectory. Not just the SATS scores in isolation.
Make sure, if you haven't already, that they have the full dyslexia report - which will also highlight areas of strength and potential - and have the conversation about how they plan to support continued improvement and help her meet her potential.
Good luck for year 7!

No one was asking you to be.

Fucking hell. Has it made you feel better to say that?

Wow.

I'm proud of my nephew who is 11 and can just about write his own name now

Thank you OP! Like others I found your post so refreshing! Like others all I have seen is children achieving high marks in their sat! My DC has additional needs and achieved 105, 98 and 92. We always knew that they wouldn't achieve 100's in all of the subjects and also had more time and support during the exams. They worked really hard, however I am concerned about the support they will receive in secondary school. I have contacted the senco at the secondary school, so will be waiting for her reply. My DC has to really work hard as do we, to support them. The support from the primary school has been a mixed bag, I felt that more support would have been helpful. Realistically, I really would be happy with them passing maths and English GCSEs, to provide more options post 16, anything higher I would consider a bonus.

Well done to your daughter for her results and I wish the best of luck to her in secondary school!

They are not taking it so prcisely. If a score is around 100 they consider it ok.

Lots of people have pointed out the limitations of SATs for dyslexic children. I think it’s really worth ensuring that your DD has support in place to give her the best chance of doing well.

My DD is dyslexic (sufficiently dyslexic that she qualifies for 20%extra time). She is also seriously smart. There’s another thread from earlier in the week which I think massively overstates population inferences from SATs with individual outcomes in education. There were people making lazy correlations about SATs and success in science and humanities for example. Its total dross as critical thinking and cognitive abilities aren’t a function of spelling. In my experience teachers under pressure can also default to these kinds of shortcut. I’d really work on your DDs confidence and self esteem and be pushy about getting her support for her dyslexia to allow her to achieve her full potential.