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Year 11 - 2024/2025: Heading down the home straight towards that finish line!

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QueenMabby · 08/06/2025 18:17

Next thread. 10 days of exams to go. Looks like we’re all heading into a busy week this week - good luck!

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PrincessOfPreschool · 10/06/2025 20:29

Edexcel P3 tomorrow. Apparently it is going to be really hard because the papers so far have been too easy...and haven't covered circle theorems (DD's nemesis) or quadratic equations (I think, or maybe she said simultaneous). Suffice to say, it's going to be all the hardest topics.

Oblomov25 · 10/06/2025 20:31

Sorry to read this @Libre2,he did so well to sort it though.

I was at hospital today for a back radiofrequency nerve end burning and met a mum of a T1 ds aged 12 only diagnosed last week. poor her!

Ds won't tell me anything about Spanish, I don't think it went that well.

ThisPerkySloth2 · 10/06/2025 20:53

@somethinggoodisgonnahappen Oh yes you will - you'll be there again helping them because that's what we do, we feel like giving up but we keep trying no matter how ungrateful they are. you'll be there again waking them up, sorting them out.

but its good to vent.

Yesterday before Biology exam my DS woke up and asked what day it is??????

somethinggoodisgonnahappen · 10/06/2025 20:58

ThisPerkySloth2 · 10/06/2025 20:53

@somethinggoodisgonnahappen Oh yes you will - you'll be there again helping them because that's what we do, we feel like giving up but we keep trying no matter how ungrateful they are. you'll be there again waking them up, sorting them out.

but its good to vent.

Yesterday before Biology exam my DS woke up and asked what day it is??????

You are right.

I just can't believe how laid back some of them are. I used to be lazy but on the day of an exam I would have woken up early and been cramming.

You do sometimes wonder how they are going to hold down responsible jobs in the future when they seem to live with their heads in the clouds!

somethinggoodisgonnahappen · 10/06/2025 20:59

PrincessOfPreschool · 10/06/2025 20:29

Edexcel P3 tomorrow. Apparently it is going to be really hard because the papers so far have been too easy...and haven't covered circle theorems (DD's nemesis) or quadratic equations (I think, or maybe she said simultaneous). Suffice to say, it's going to be all the hardest topics.

Good luck kids, that sounds horrendous.

labradorservant · 10/06/2025 21:05

PrincessOfPreschool · 10/06/2025 20:29

Edexcel P3 tomorrow. Apparently it is going to be really hard because the papers so far have been too easy...and haven't covered circle theorems (DD's nemesis) or quadratic equations (I think, or maybe she said simultaneous). Suffice to say, it's going to be all the hardest topics.

dd also mentioned vectors? But it’s 9pm. Love Island time. Work done for the day…

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:07

labradorservant · 10/06/2025 08:43

@Sisublondiewhat exam scandal? I know there was an ‘impossible’ maths question that they had to remove a few years ago.

I think there have been quite a few over the years, mainly maths based, I think……yes, there was the year a question was deemed “ impossible and ridiculous” / “ too difficult” ( I think that happened more than once) and ended up ridiculed on the news; one year I seem to remember some papers were being sent to overseas school in Amsterdam ( sister lives there), think they went missing, so replacements issued- but some students were still given the lost ones in Uk; I think one year a maths paper had a question in it that was already in a textbook by different exam board ; bells ringing about some music 🎵 disaster but the one I really think of is when I think the police got involved in investigation when the papers were opened in a centre the night before, and I think someone was selling defaced copy online for not a huge amount of cash…….. yep, I just googled, quite a lot of further info online, interesting Daily Mail articles too…. ( funny old thing!)! ….. Oh well!

Back to 👮 maths revision

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 10/06/2025 21:18

VioletIndigoBlueGreen · 10/06/2025 17:57

@Libre2Your poor DS, glad he managed to do the exam and that school sound supportive.

@achangeofnameisasgoodasarestYes, agree that the music paper is ridiculously difficult. DS is doing the same one as your DD, as I remember you mentioned Afro-Celt in a previous post! Music is his favourite thing and was one of his lowest mock grades which we were really surprised by. Luckily he doesn’t want to do it for A Level as he enjoys playing too much to study it further (wants to keep it separate from studies), but I’d thought it would be an easy high grade for him (hollow laugh).

We have the same one - Edexcel and it's hideous.

The A level looked even more miserable and really doesn't cater for those who are interested in contemporary rather than classical - especially on the composition front.

Music is DD's sole interest and obsession, but the written paper is just difficult and dull. Happily it's far more interesting once you get past school.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 10/06/2025 21:24

@Libre2 your poor DS, hope he feels better for tomorrow!

@Wafflesandcrepes friend of mine's DS is home ed and has being doing 4 GCSEs a year since he was 12 - two in June and two in Oct/Nov. Universities they have spoken to don't seem bothered in the slightest - far more interested in A level grades and want them to be sat in one go.

@newmum1976 100% agree on the tutors - it's the only time I am sure that DD is doing something worthwhile. I would be far more stressed without them, but admit I am rather celebrating having (hopefully) paid the last Maths session tonight and last Geography one tomorrow.

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:26

CatHairEveryWhereNow · 10/06/2025 10:22

Thanks Flowers

We all went to bed early and it's all looking brighter this morning.

DS is postively chipper this morning despite rest of week being full of exams. One subject done and teachers doing quick celebration with them today which he's looking forward to - plus he said he's been revising months for remaining exams.

DD2 found the elastics easier this morning - less panic I think- it's last full day in she was planning - so we said take elastics out at lunch and don't worry and put them in at home - perhaps not best advice but she stopped worrying and is planning to stop for afternoon maths classes which she was wanting to do all along. Hopefully the hook things will have come by time she home and they will help.

Did the hooks come?! I do hope so! I think anything that would work to make her more comfortable, elastics wise- is key. ( DS18 just did 4 months in South America with them… so hasn’t moved forward, braces wise, but finds elastics comfortable when in, and hurts a bit when not in), so I hope she got to her afternoon maths class and feeling better, now 🤞.

Good that DS was chippier, too! Got to love a good-ish kip!

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:27

@CatHairEveryWhereNowps- the bloody elastics literally get everywhere!

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:30

@frozendaisy.. I do hope you made Tapas!!!! 😈😹 🇪🇸! So glad DS came out smiling! And Little DS came back to 👮‍♀️ maths! “ stuff to space”! 😹😹😹…

Yes, holding it together is a dream! You, too!! 🤞🙏

PrincessOfPreschool · 10/06/2025 21:30

labradorservant · 10/06/2025 21:05

dd also mentioned vectors? But it’s 9pm. Love Island time. Work done for the day…

You're right. She was just doing those. We all had a great time laughing and being around today. It's like when you get silly overtired. SO over it all now that we can't be serious anymore.

TV is occupied by England v Senegal, which means DD can put in an extra 30 mins (she only started at 7pm so no need to feel too sorry for her).

PrincessOfPreschool · 10/06/2025 21:37

Oblomov25 · 10/06/2025 20:31

Sorry to read this @Libre2,he did so well to sort it though.

I was at hospital today for a back radiofrequency nerve end burning and met a mum of a T1 ds aged 12 only diagnosed last week. poor her!

Ds won't tell me anything about Spanish, I don't think it went that well.

My DDs best friend was diagnosed in Feb, during mocks (she missed them). Trying to adjust to it all and do GCSEs. Poor thing is sitting exams alone in a room, just in case her monitor goes off so she doesn't disturb anyone. I feel so sorry for her, she's a very sociable child and I think it must feel like more of an ordeal alone.

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:37

somethinggoodisgonnahappen · 10/06/2025 20:29

Feeling annoyed with DC today. I woke them up with a drink and had laid out some materials for them to do before their history exam, namely a 16 marker which I told them to have a go at and then look at the mark scheme answer. Went to work. Got back to find that of course they hadn't touched it and guess what came up as the 16 marker... I know I shouldn't be spoonfeeding them but it's so bloody frustrating when you do your best to help and they just can't be arsed! They then asked me what they've got tomorrow. Oh no you are on your own sunshine. I'm not wasting my time going out of my way to help again if you can't even be bothered to work out what exams you've got!

Oh, I would be FURIOUS! 😡 I’m so so sorry to hear that, there is nothing I can say, sadly, to change things, so I’m sending a 🤗 and the only thing that I can say…. is that, if I were in your position, I’d be very pissed off, but, the flip side is, I would be SO relieved that I HAD left the materials and pointers out….because your DC not doing it is beyond your control, sadly…… but I’m guilty of self-beating
myself-up and I would blame myself if I hadn’t left them out! If that makes sense! I hope it does. It still sucks ass, unfortunately. But, hopefully, in the grand scheme of things, it won’t matter. I wish you better luck 🍀 tomorrow 🤞!

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:38

labradorservant · 10/06/2025 21:05

dd also mentioned vectors? But it’s 9pm. Love Island time. Work done for the day…

Oh, of course! Totally! Enjoy!! 🏖️ 💖

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:40

@VivaDixie… glad all was ok after Spanish! 🇪🇸 How was the masterclass?

somethinggoodisgonnahappen · 10/06/2025 21:41

Thanks @Sisublondie GCSE exams are definitely a tough gig, both for the children and parents!

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:45

@Libre2… oh, what a shocker for your poor DS! I’m so relieved school seem to have dealt with it properly, and he was as ok as he could be afterwards. It must be super scary dealing with Diabetes. 🤗

@Wafflesandcrepes.. and, your poor DS, too. I can’t believe this is continuing… I hope school finally do something. I know a friend who called her DC Exam
board in similar situation directly …. tried to get things moving that way. I’m really sorry you’re going though this.

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 21:51

Oblomov25 · 10/06/2025 20:31

Sorry to read this @Libre2,he did so well to sort it though.

I was at hospital today for a back radiofrequency nerve end burning and met a mum of a T1 ds aged 12 only diagnosed last week. poor her!

Ds won't tell me anything about Spanish, I don't think it went that well.

Oh, no!! You’ve had a HORRIBLE day today!! I hope it went ok 🤞🙏🤞. The very last thing you need during all this crap! 💩. My work called earlier, they know I’ve been trying to WFH cause of exams, know DS last exam is soon ( Monday ), asked if I could go in Tuesday….. the relief I felt at saying I can’t, he has an Epilepsy checkup… I don’t want day after all this to be still getting up at stupid o clock!

Sorry to hear of the little one you met- 12 years old. Wow..

Well, hope you get a good rest after a full on hospital x GCSE Collab! 🤗

Sisublondie · 10/06/2025 22:15

phyllidafosset · 10/06/2025 17:51

I don’t know if this is helpful to anyone, but I wanted to throw some light and love towards all those who are struggling with exams, which for whatever reasons, are not allowing them to really show what they are capable off (perhaps 75%??). I had extra time in my GCSEs way back when (SEN). Grades were all mediocre (not an A in sight - my only possible one I had awful period pain in the exam). Did A-levels, grades even more meh. Went to a college of HE (transitioned to a uni after I left). Changed subjects, ended up with a 2:1. Hard earned, in English - without having done the a-level, but I loved it. At that point, all I knew was I wanted to analyse thinks (ideas and thinking rather than psychoanalysis style 😁). Then did a conversion course and to a different subject, then a MSc, then a PhD. And now I am an academic. I LOVE what I do (analysis and ideas all day long). None of my grades until my MSc really suggested what I could do. I smashed the PhD - it was once I got past formal exams that I really blossomed. Education is 100% stacked against SEN, BUT it is the system that is wrong not the brains that don’t fit the system. And you can fight that system, play it differently and win in the end. It is hard work, but GCSE grades accurately reflect the life potential of a tiny proportion of kids (perhaps only the few standardly academic ones). So you can absolutely tell your kids that their lives are never defined by them, and they CAN find their path - including one to academic success and achievement (IF that is what their passion turns out to be) with less than stellar GCSEs and shit A-Levels and a non-Russell group degree. It takes creativity and resilience (even if it is painful at the time) to take a non-typical path through a standardised system stacked against you (for whatever reasons) and those are amazingly employable. Hugs love and celebrations to ALL our kids, SEN, standardly academic, anxious, ratty, and everything in between. Getting through GCSES is such an achievement, no matter.

Hey…. I read your post first, and it made me cry happy tears. I didn’t know how to respond, so I’ve been thinking what I could, can, write to express my relief and comfort at what you kindly took the time to write.

My DS16 is perfect. He is autistic, has ADHD and has suffered multiple different types of epileptic seizures including tonic-clonic since birth. He has had a horrific experience of education since he left a lovely kindergarten and started mainstream school- a heady mix of disinterested teachers, bullying, a want to learn, but inability to focus, understand and retain information. His older brother, DS18 is also perfect, he has just had a totally different life experience… naturally smart, popular, great at football, tons of friends… but tainted with a childhood of waking to paramedics in his shared bedroom tending to his baby bro, after I’d administered life-saving meds, and of seeing the pain of his brother bring broken, bullied and hating when he wasn’t there to prevent it. DS18 got great A Levels, has just returned from a long stint in South America perfecting his Spanish and is off to Russell Group Uni in September. It hurts my soul to see the huge divide between them, brothers, but divided by societies expectations placed on them, dictated by GCSE results.

I have absolutely no idea what to do if DS16 fails to get the 4 x Grade 4 grades to get into a college to do a Btec ( he wants to get into policing, criminology, like me). And, this is why your post has calmed me, cheered me, like nothing I have ever read before. Because, education truly IS stacked against him, and the system IS wrong for beautiful brains like his that don’t “fit the system”…

Your personal journey is awe inspiring and I applaud and thank you for taking the time, and love, to share with us., and especially those of us like me on here…. We share the happiness and excitement for the higher-achieving DC, and we have wonderful support on here from their parents, too. They also share our victories and support in our concerns, albeit sometimes on completely different pages.

I just wish there was a way that meant society didn’t so obviously still discriminate. Thank you, so very much, Dr @phyllidafossetfor making me see a way through all of this, you have given me, and by extension, DS16 fervent light of the end of this never ending tunnel. I cannot express my thanks enough. 💖

SE13Mummy · 10/06/2025 22:38

Wafflesandcrepes · 10/06/2025 20:09

Repetitive strain injury, couldn’t hold her pen/write properly. Managed just a bit of the 16-marker at the end. She says the questions were “brilliant” and she knew it all. It’s all in her head and not on paper. We’ve applied for extra marks but would have been much better to have the extra time.

if anyone has info on whether resit grades count as much as grades taken in one seating, that’d be great. I know she shouldn’t be worrying about it but she is.

Edited

I don't know much about the re-sits other than it not always being easy to find somewhere to do anything that isn't English or maths. Would your DD consider doing a history-based EPQ so her knowledge and interest could be demonstrated through that instead of something that relies on a final exam?

My DC has a wrist/hand injury that means they often lose sensation in their writing hand. As a result, they type for everything that doesn't need calculations. Ordinarily, this is fine but by the first biology paper, DC was in complete agony and couldn't even type with their right hand. Instead of mentioning this, they decided it would work better to write the entire paper by hand, using their left hand. They didn't finish the paper and were fit for nothing by the end of the exam.

I emailed the exams officer that evening and requested the school put in for special consideration under the relevant bit of the JCQ access arrangements provision. The exams officer did this but also arranged for DC to do the rest of that week's exams in a separate room, with an emergency scribe at the ready. DC had never worked with a scribe before so it's not ideal but is preferable to not being able to record their own answers. The school dealt with the paperwork during the day which is how it's meant to be done. Because DC already has a number of splints and other medical contraptions, school was also able to add a wearable tens device to the list (having first inspected it for connectivity etc.). All of this has helped DC manage the pain and loss of hand use reasonably well. Fatigue has been an issue as it's hard getting someone to write down your answers when it's not what you're used to but the provisions put in place at the last minute by the school have made it easier. I'm sorry your DD isn't being so well-supported by her school @Wafflesandcrepes .

NotDonna · 10/06/2025 22:40

@Wafflesandcrepes im so annoyed on your DDs behalf. It’s beyond ridiculous that she should be in pain trying to achieve her best. It really is unfair. I’m blown away at the lack of consideration the school have provided. I’ve everything crossed that she’s done much better In her history than she thinks.

clary · 10/06/2025 22:57

@Wafflesandcrepes I am sorry your DD isn’t getting better support. Is history an A level choice? If not then it doesn’t matter in the least what GCSE she gets tbh. Even Oxford only looks at the top xx (7? 8?) grades. What grade is she hoping for? I wouldn’t suggest retaking at all tbh, unless as I say it's an A level option. As a rule GCSE retakes are for Eng and maths.

I wanted to say on the Spanish, if some DC thought it was tough, I recall DD going on and on about a word no one knew on her French GCSE reading (épais (thick) to describe the bread) and another word that even the French girl in her year didn't know the English for in the listening (nids-de-poule in the road fgs what a word to put in a GCSE exam, it means potholes; DD put chickens!).

Anyway kids tend to focus on one question or in MFL one word they did not know. DD did really really well in both R and L exams, despite the thick bread :)

ChannelLightVessel · 10/06/2025 23:13

Meanwhile DD, God love her, is concerned about the homeless girl from the Spanish Reading. I confirmed that it was fiction.

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