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Year 11 - 2024/2025 - In the thick of it!

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QueenMabby · 13/05/2025 12:47

New thread. Sorry. Forgot to start it - I hope everyone finds this!

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clary · 14/05/2025 19:18

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:08

Pgce.
It's been a dreadful placement.
She's genuinely doesn't know what else to do

So sorry to read this. Was her other placement any good? Is it things the school is failing at? Can she speak to her tutor at uni?

And yes, is teaching the right career for her? It’s ok to spend a year finding out it’s not.

WhatsitWiggle · 14/05/2025 19:25

groovylady · 14/05/2025 13:40

Dd has had an awful year. So I think I'm more worried than I would have been.
She also has a chronic health condition that could flare up.
Older dd makes her life a lot harder than it needs to be so I worry about her, too.
I don't let them see my worry - I am unfailingly upbeat around them - I think that's why it's nice to have this thread to offload a bit.
Dd seems to be coping OK atm which I'm grateful for.

Assuming your DDs health condition is known to GP/specialist, can you ask them to write a letter explaining the condition and impact on her study / exams, and submit under special considerations (the exams officer does this after the exams have finished).

DD has anorexia and her ED clinic wrote a letter explaining the impact of starvation on the brain, not just during exams but the whole of her study. It might only help with a few marks, but it can't hurt.

Notellinganyone · 14/05/2025 19:26

A 9 is not an A though. A 7 is equivalent to the old A.

Notellinganyone · 14/05/2025 19:28

I teach this syllabus and all of Year 11 loved the Unseen this year.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:29

I honestly don't know

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:31

@WhatsitWiggle
Yes, I've done that. She has some meds in school of necessary

Eccle80 · 14/05/2025 19:31

@clary I’ve had a similar discussion with my kids, on the new system a 6 sounds quite low because it’s the 4th grade down, but it’s actually a B which is a really good grade. I kind of see why they want to differentiate more at the top, but it does feel like it makes some of the others sound not as good.

Just had a look at AQA maths boundaries for last year and for a 9 it was 219/240 over the 3 papers, depending on the paper 6-8 marks could be dropped

Notellinganyone · 14/05/2025 19:31

achangeofnameisasgoodasarest · 14/05/2025 08:54

good luck to anyone else sitting today. DD2 has English Lit. For some reason it is a paper that is only 45 minutes long so feels a bit pointless.

She's doing Streetcar Named Desire which is one of her favourite texts ever so hoping she gets a nice extract. English lang in the pm (two hours) and then that is English over for her.

Although she then has to go straight to Symphony so I won't be hearing from her for a few hours.

The dreaded maths is tomorrow and I know this could blow her off course completely. And history sources after that, where she is worried she doesn't know enough about the League of Nations.

Wanted to say @SE13Mummy how impressive your DC is trying to make decisions like that with a dodgy wrist (whether to type or write)... poor kid - sounds like they are being really sensible.

All the CIE lit questions are 45 minutes apart from the unseen paper. It’s frustrating as it’s just not enough time to write a decent essay.

WhatsitWiggle · 14/05/2025 19:33

Hollyhedge · 14/05/2025 18:39

An A is 7. 7+ is around top 20% which is about the same as those who used to get A and above. 8 is around top 10%, roughly same as A*, 9 is top 3% - nothing used to exist for those! The numbers are not helping!!

Absolutely agree, I do not like the numbers! And I don't think media coverage of pupils getting 10 x 9 grades in record numbers helps. Well done to those kids, but let's see the pupil who worked really hard and got a 6 instead of a 5, and is absolutely made up.

I was the third year ever of GCSEs, and got 2 x A. I'd only been expecting 1 so I was shocked and so happy. And that was at a grammar school, A grades were scattered about, I don't think anyone got all As. But teaching was very different then, it wasn't test after test like you have now.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 14/05/2025 19:33

Notellinganyone · 14/05/2025 19:26

A 9 is not an A though. A 7 is equivalent to the old A.

Yes - but in the past people felt incredibly happy at getting an A.

Now they feel it's not really an A in the same way because there are several numbers above it.

Even more so for those kids who are not going to be getting a whole string of top grades, but maybe 1 or 2 in their best subjects.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:36

clary · 14/05/2025 19:18

So sorry to read this. Was her other placement any good? Is it things the school is failing at? Can she speak to her tutor at uni?

And yes, is teaching the right career for her? It’s ok to spend a year finding out it’s not.

Edited

I think this is what I'm struggling with tbh.
1st placement was good.
She loves the subject, but I felt needed a break from studying after her degree.
She agreed then my "d"h convinced her to do it straight away.
I'm SO furious at him.
She has worked herself into the ground, got very little support from the uni/TP2 mentor and today was told she's made progress but not enough 🤷‍♀️
I've told her to request clarification and maybe consider redoing TP2 next year.
She looks so defeated and ill this evening.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:38

@clary
I've said this, but she feels it's a wasted year and would feel she failed.
I've pointed out that she can go back anytime and that maybe she could look at something else.
She has a 1st from an RG uni and is really hard working.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:39

Aren't the govt planning to being back A** - U?
Or was that a fever dream I had!?

2025istheyeari · 14/05/2025 19:43

Hi, newbie here!
DS had AQA English lit on Monday, the Macbeth question was apparently ‘a blessing’ , Price and Prejudice one less so, apparently a bit of a random piece of text which was difficult to provide quotes for.
AQA higher biology was ok, but he struggled with a couple of the 6 markers, he managed to answer them but thinks his answers lacked depth. I’m assuming that over 2 papers, maybe not the end of the world? He’s predicted an 8 so reading about all the students who found it ‘easy’ is concerning!!

AQA geography today was ‘great’

Maths tomorrow which hopefully should be ok and the dreaded history on Friday, there’s so much content and so many dates, it’s his nemesis( along with French!!), hope it’s ok as 2 more history exams to come! He’s got exams every day next week and after half term until 16th. He’d be envious of those finishing earlier and even more so of those who have coursework, I didn’t know that was a thing any more? I guess you just get immersed in what your. Hood is doing!

anyway good luck to all!!

Poisoningpigeons · 14/05/2025 19:48

DC said Geography (AQA) was "fine" which seems to be what they say for every paper. They're good at maths so hopefully tomorrow will go "fine" too.

Then a long weekend until Chemistry next Monday.

TheyNotLikeUs · 14/05/2025 19:58

On a more basic point, even reading a string of grades which are numerical is messy...reading 5As and 3Bs, for example, is so much clearer.

Tiswa · 14/05/2025 20:03

@2025istheyeari there are many different exams boards plus it depends I think on topics DD for example was thrilled that one topics she wanted plus one she had just revised came up on geography

hate the new numbers a C sounds better than a 4

MrsHamlet · 14/05/2025 20:17

groovylady · 14/05/2025 19:08

Pgce.
It's been a dreadful placement.
She's genuinely doesn't know what else to do

Popping on here to say one of my other hats is teacher training. They need to support her to pass - there should be options - or to leave without failing.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:20

@MrsHamlet
Leave without failing?
What does that entail?

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:20

I have no idea about any of this...
I so want to advise her well

MrsHamlet · 14/05/2025 20:23

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:20

@MrsHamlet
Leave without failing?
What does that entail?

She would need to agree to withdraw - if she fails, that is the end. She cannot restart.

If you want to pm me, please do.

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:31

How do I pm??

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:34

Oh. Can't do it on app. I'll log on and try...

groovylady · 14/05/2025 20:41

@MrsHamlet
Pmd you x

clary · 14/05/2025 20:49

@2025istheyeari physics is on 16 June which pretty much everyone takes either as combined or single science so very few students will finish before then. Tho I see Spanish paper 4 is the following day which is mean – in DS2's year almost all his mates (and he) ended with physics, but a few had German writing on the Monday.

Coursework is only an option with IGCSEs which are chosen by some private schools for some subjects. For state school students there is only CW in practical subjects like drama and food tech.

I don't think media coverage of pupils getting 10 x 9 grades in record numbers helps. Well done to those kids, but let's see the pupil who worked really hard and got a 6 instead of a 5, and is absolutely made up.

@WhatsitWiggle totally; or the student who was expected to achieve nothing much at all and worked so hard and gained 3 x 4 and 2 x 3 grades.

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