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13 year old son help

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Schoolstrugglingteen · 28/04/2025 15:11

Hello all

I really need some advice on my 13 year old ds. Y8. Diagnosed ASD age 3. High functioning, mainstream school with some TA support through EHCP.

He's just not engaged with schoolwork and his grades are poor. I'm struggling with this was both my husband and I were the straight A student kind. Son doesn't care about exams, isn't motivated, puts minimal effort into homework. He doesn't have many friends and just seems to float around the school.

How do I tackle this? I'm worried that his trajectory will mean rubbish GCSEs and I want to change that now. What the most effective way? We've already had the screentime conversation and are cutting that down and taking away his beloved XBox during week nights.

The frustrating thing is that he is clever with a phenomenal memory. Literally taught himself to read by age 3, he knew his alphabet by age 1 (I know this is typical of ASD). memorised world map, Capitals, etc.etc.

Advice would be much appreciated. Thanks xx

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TwelveBlueSocks · 28/04/2025 15:20

Hi,

We are in the same position but 2 years further down the line. My DS also knew his alphabet by 18 months and was reading fluently before school. DH and are both very academic, in the same way as you describe.

The wheels came off with us early in year 9 and we are now home schooling very effectively. The problem was that the school were teaching entirely through powerpoint and videos and using horror to liven things up. DS was in meltdown but couldn't articulate what was causing his distress. It was only when I got hold of the some of the powerpoint files from school that I realised and got him out of there.

DS is here and says it would be a very good idea for you to get hold of the teaching materials that they are using in your DSs school and find out what he is having to cope with during the day. It is almost certainly causing him some kind of distress, and if you could get him away and find a way for him to engage with the learning that doesn't cause distress, then he will start to engage and enjoy it again.

Good luck. Please do PM me if you would like more information. It was a bit of a hard road getting from where you are to where we are and it might help to know more.

Schoolstrugglingteen · 28/04/2025 15:25

TwelveBlueSocks · 28/04/2025 15:20

Hi,

We are in the same position but 2 years further down the line. My DS also knew his alphabet by 18 months and was reading fluently before school. DH and are both very academic, in the same way as you describe.

The wheels came off with us early in year 9 and we are now home schooling very effectively. The problem was that the school were teaching entirely through powerpoint and videos and using horror to liven things up. DS was in meltdown but couldn't articulate what was causing his distress. It was only when I got hold of the some of the powerpoint files from school that I realised and got him out of there.

DS is here and says it would be a very good idea for you to get hold of the teaching materials that they are using in your DSs school and find out what he is having to cope with during the day. It is almost certainly causing him some kind of distress, and if you could get him away and find a way for him to engage with the learning that doesn't cause distress, then he will start to engage and enjoy it again.

Good luck. Please do PM me if you would like more information. It was a bit of a hard road getting from where you are to where we are and it might help to know more.

Oh gosh. Thanks for your reply.
How do you homeschool effectively? I'm afraid my patience is short and I'm a terrible teacher. Plus we both work pretty much ft.
I will speak to him on this specific point though thank you.

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TwelveBlueSocks · 28/04/2025 15:36

That might be tricky if you work full time and are a bit short on patience. I'm not in paid employment and really enjoyed the lockdown schooling so I was okay with diving in feet first. I'm not sure what the answer is in your situation.

There are absolutely oodles of kids having the same problems. The Times Education Supplement said that 92,000 kids deregistered from school last year and it was all the SEND ones. The SEND systems in the schools are really falling apart at the moment.

My DS says that your DS may not know why he is struggling because my DS says he had no idea how bad his situation was while he was still in it. It was only when I got him out of school and started home schooling him that he realised how bad things had been in school.

It would be a good idea to read online about dopamine addiction if he is a gamer. My DS was a gamer and we realised that he was trapped in a dopamine cycle that was being driven by computer games at home and then exploited at school to hook him into academic achievement using gamified learning apps.

There are a lot of good articles in the financial times about the MH crisis among teens and they are really worth reading. My DS read them and was able to take control of the situation himself, which really helped.

Dopamine addiction is a really important part of this, along with the algorithms in social media and youtube and stuff, and it would be a really good idea to help your son get up to speed on that. It is probably totally dominating his thinking and leaving no space for the actual love of academic learning.

TwelveBlueSocks · 28/04/2025 15:38

To answer the question about how we home school, there are several really good online schools and correspondance schools now.

The most popular are King's Interhigh, and Wolsey Hall, and we also use Pembrokeshire College Online. It's very common to us several different schools for different subjects.

Pearson iGCSE exams can be sat from home with webcam invigilation so if you are not close to a private exam centre than that helps.

The thing that is difficult is getting contact with actual real people. The teens and teachers will be still in school and having that community is important.

We're looking into hybrid school as an option but that is quite a new thing.

SuperSue77 · 28/04/2025 19:46

My AuDHD son is also 13 and in yr8 in a mainstream state school, no EHCP though. I took him to see a paediatrician at 18 months as I suspected he was autistic and preschool suspected too and got him seen by the LEA Ed Psych, but nothing came of it - it wasn't until he was 8 that he was finally assessed following a letter from his year 3 teacher to the GP.

We applied for an EHCNA when he was in year 6, just after his ADHD diagnosis, but our LEA turns down the majority of requests they receive and I didn't have the energy to fight it as I was also appealing his secondary school place at thst time (lost that too!). We had planned to send him to a small private school to limit the exposure to loud, busy classrooms/corridors - but everywhere we applied to rejected him - I must say I had no sympathy when Labour brought in VAT on private school fees having been treated the way we were (a whole other story).

Fortunately the school my son was given is really inclusive and collaborative. They have agreed to us flexischooling our son, so he spents one day a week at home doing 'home ed' (basically pursuing his own pursuits like coding/nature walks) and then 4 days in school. He still really struggles with school, always begging me not to send him, and telling me he doesn't learn anything at school. His academics are still high at the moment, part of me can't help wonder if it is just that the average level at the school is lower than other schools, but I do believe he is doing as well as he is currently because he has the day at home, and his exposure to the school environment is reduced. We are fortunate that my husband doesn't work, so there is someone at home with him on his flexiday.

I do worry though, as to how long this status quo can last. School want him to reduce to half a day of flexi next year and then full time school from yr 10 so that he won't miss any of his GCSE syllabus, but I don't know whether he will be up to that. I also worry that once the curriculum heats up in year 10 whether he will be able to cope with the pace. Also he isn't medicated for the ADHD and I know he struggles to focus, but CAMHS are about to discharge him as he won't take the medication, so if he needs it for GCSE we may be out of luck, unless we can find a private doctor to prescribe it.

I don't have any advice I'm afraid, but I fear we will be in a similar position at some stage. I feel the flexischooling is helping, not sure if that is a feasible option for your son given you both work ft and many schools are very reluctant to agree to it - logistically it can be difficult. What saddens me, and I suspect it does you, from what you've said, is the feeling of wasted potential. School advertised an afterschool maths club recently, and it looked fantastic, but my son doesn't want to stay in school any longer than he has to. Also, they're running a school trip abroad which also looks right up his street - but he doesn't want to go away with people from school - it also clashes with his flexiday and the weekend and he doesn't want to miss his time at home.

I do think that our ND children will come into their own over time, just perhaps not following the traditional mould.

TwelveBlueSocks · 29/04/2025 08:28

I'm also negotiating to try to get flexi-schooling at the moment, but with a private school. I do think that is the answer, but you need a parent at home for the home part of the week to work. I'm not sure what happens if both parents are out at work.

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