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Worth fighting?

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TiredAndTeasy23 · 15/03/2025 21:42

Trying to reach out for some honest support and advice from level headed strangers.
Long & short of it is my husband has been dismissed from his teaching role due to stopping two teenage boys fighting. He saw them in a headlock together and considering they are older and physically bigger boys who can cause damage, he shouted and then pulled one lad by the loop of his backpack (which he was wearing) and moved him into a classroom nearby and separated them. This followed with a suspension and ended in dismissal. My husband has been distraught over this. He’s usually a happy and positive guy but he is a shadow of a man I once knew. He has a union who was honestly just as confused and when he saw the cctv his response to my husband was “well I expected a lot worse! You have control the entire time and no harm came to either boy”. He applied and the school stayed strong and said it’s gross misconduct. He, with the union rep are now gearing up for a tribunal but they are aware this could take months if not over a year with no guarantee. My husband took a mundane job which sees him working all day, well into the evenings and weekends meaning he isn’t seeing our young children.
I guess I’m asking for unbiased advice on whether that’s it. Teaching career well and truly over or with totally transparency and honesty, could he get another teaching job or is it a waste of everyone’s time to even apply.
im so angry this has happened to him. If he had done something awful or unthinkable it would be easier to comprehend but he’s a great teacher, has blinding references (many from that same school!) but he just doesn’t seem like he will be given another chance again.
All thoughts welcome.
Thanks

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MummytoE · 15/03/2025 21:45

I'm confused, on what grounds have they sacked him? Are they saying he hurt the student?

BitterTits · 15/03/2025 21:48

No expertise but I'm sure it's worth fighting. This sounds crazy and I imagine the head and governing body are going to find themselves in the wrong.

TiredAndTeasy23 · 15/03/2025 22:00

Sacked on Gross dismissal. They’re saying it’s “safeguarding concerns” and against their policy. I am biased but as a mother to a teenage boy, if my boys were fighting I would want them stopped and they’d get a b*llocking from me when they got home and made to write an apology to the school/staff.

The student who was “manhandled” even said he wasn’t hurt and was sorry he was messing about in the corridor to begin with. But his parents went mental and complained that their son was manhandled and is really upset about it. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Total honesty about this. No point in dumbing it down and getting the right advice for the wrong reasons. I’m the first to tell my other half if he’s been a tw*t but in this instance I can’t say, apart from ok he did technically “manhandle a teenager”, he is totally In the wrong here? Or am I wrong? 🤔

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MummytoE · 15/03/2025 22:05

No wonder there is a massive exodus of teaching staff, if this is how they are treated! What is he supposed to do in this situation? It's so annoying because you can guarantee if one of the boys had gotten hurt the parents would have complained about a teacher not intervening. I'm sorry you guys are having to deal with this. I would be fighting this definitely.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 16/03/2025 05:20

I think he did the right thing and should have been commended not fired. I hope dismissing him for that isn't legal. There is a teachers subforum on MN if you don't get answers you need here https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_staffroom

FrippEnos · 16/03/2025 12:02

The issue is that the findings of these hearings only have to be based on if those on the hearing panel feel that there is a problem.

It sounds to me like this was used to force your husband out of the school.
It is becoming far to common.
I assume that he has had his appeal and that this has already gone to LADO and the police who have not got involved/dismissed it.
If so the information will be sent to the DBS and the TRA who will 'investigate' and decide whether they need to do anything further.
If they decided that no further action is to be taken then your husband should be able to teach but it will be dependant on whether he will be able to get a school to employ him and the references from his current school.

As for continuing fighting and taking this to a tribunal, I would suggest that if he has the mental; capacity to fight this that far then he should do so.

Annoyeddd · 17/03/2025 09:37

No wonder there is a shortage of good teachers in schools - they are being attacked by both sides.
They have to deal with little (physically big) shits who can't behave appropriately - admittedly teenage boys have always fought in the school playground but the unwritten rules were that the fight would calm down if a teacher turned up and the teacher was always right (although in practice was sometimes wrong I can remember a teacher hitting a boy who was always picking on and fighting with smaller boys - it did the job though).
I hope the system will support your DH. It does look like the union aren't that good and the school is scared of parents and just want an easy life short term

WonkyDonkeyWonkeyDonkey · 17/03/2025 10:10

Sounds to me like they are taking advantage of the situation and managing him out. Now they can get three ECTs for the same money.

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