Flooding of state schools by ex indie students fails to materialise

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An interesting story, given all the doomsaying we saw on here last year following the VAT policy change. It's great news that more families received their first choice of school this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/mar/10/no-exodus-to-state-sector-after-vat-added-to-private-school-fees-say-english-councils?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

no it isnt it based upon how much money the parents can spend on private tutoring, be aware that tutoring is needed and or being able to move within the catchment area of the grammar

for the size of the school intakes 13,000 is not a huge number but 13,000 kids have left the school of their choice and then other are not starting

grammars are getting harder to get in as well as the best state schools

I wonder if there are any stats available on the number of applicants at the top performing private schools vs the low performing private schools. I can well image that the top performing private schools have seen an increase in number of applicants whilst the private schools with results comparable to state school have seen a fall in applicants.

it is pure statistical spin by evil bridget philipson. of course it is planted in the guardian

evil Bridget cancel latin funding in state schools mid year. cuts advanced maths

dont worry the NEU will strike again. At least when the NEU is on strike the state school teachers cant indoctrinate your children in gender ideology, critical race theory, marxism and hatred of the west

Bring in catchment doesn’t mean you get a place. Top scores get places, regardless of parental income.

Tutoring is tutoring, regardless of whether it’s in primary school, GCSEs, or A-Levels…parents can choose whether they hire tutors. Tutoring exists in non-11+ counties.

Many pupils who go to grammar can’t afford private schools.

being in the catchment area means you dont have to be ranked like those outside the catchment area

those parents who would have gone private will now tutor harder and get their kids into the grammar places

it is going to become harder and harder to get into a grammar as the average score goes higher and higher

tutoring is not just tutoring it is available to the few

you are just saying that to make your self feel better

many of those pupils who cant afford grammars had bursaries , but much less now

you are missing the fact that by forcing kids out of private schools this will make it harder for state school kids to get into grammars and the best state schools

please explain how this helps state school kids ?

there was a alex cartoon, saying he welcomed VAT on education as it stopped the riff raff from going to private schools and it showed others that you were rich if you could still afford it

labour is making private schools even more elite

the issue is for kids who cant cope in comps, forced to go private and many are forced now back into state

this is child abuse

This isn’t a race to the bottom.

Some parents don’t buy bookshelves full of books to read alongside their children. Does it mean I won’t? No.

Some parents don’t buy musical instruments and tuition for their children. Does it mean I won’t? No.

Some parents don’t pay for swimming lessons. Does it mean I won’t? No.

Some parents don’t feed their children three healthy meals every day. Does it mean I won’t? No.

Some parents don’t take their children on holidays. Does it mean I won’t? No.

I agree that charging VAT will send more private pupils into the grammar system, and I fundamentally disagree with charging VAT on education. I believe in grammar schools for the bright children whose parents cannot afford an exclusive education.

What’s your point?

Child abuse?

I’m out. Bye.

it is child abuse to force kids out of their private schools back into comps they could not cope in

my point is the VAT raid is pure ideological

evil bridget will go after grammars after she finished with academies

grammar schools are not needed, all comps should have a grammar scream that you can enter at any age group

grammars kick kids out of their school if they are struggling academically, private schools dont

but overall it will get much harder to get into grammars and top performing state schools

we actually saw this at during covid when many private school kids took grammar places.