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Offsite direction

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YourPearlQuoter · 04/03/2025 10:58

If a child has been sent to another school for an offsite direction move for 12 weeks is an admission form required to fill in

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TeenToTwenties · 04/03/2025 11:41

Do you mean managed move?

StrivingForSleep · 04/03/2025 12:13

Off-site direction isn’t the same as a managed move.

If you mean is an in-year admission form required, then no, it’s not.

BooksAndHooks · 04/03/2025 12:15

They will be dual registered so not a full admissions form no as the on-roll school still have responsibility for educating them. There are basic forms to sign and fill in though.

TeenToTwenties · 04/03/2025 12:16

What is offsite direction?

StrivingForSleep · 04/03/2025 12:21

@TeenToTwenties it is when a school directs a pupil to attend another setting temporarily. You can read more in the statutory suspension and exclusion and alternative provision guidance.

TeenToTwenties · 04/03/2025 12:35

StrivingForSleep · 04/03/2025 12:21

@TeenToTwenties it is when a school directs a pupil to attend another setting temporarily. You can read more in the statutory suspension and exclusion and alternative provision guidance.

So like a breathing space for the main school?
Or a try before you buy for the receiving school and parent?

StrivingForSleep · 04/03/2025 12:45

@TeenToTwenties off-site direction is about improving behaviour going forwards rather than punishment for previous behaviour. The aim is to reintegrate into the referring home school rather than try before you buy.

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 10:08

Thank you everyone for your replies I was told my son will be at another school for his behaviour for 13 weeks then go back if his he behaves which he has been doing but I was given an admission form I get a feeling there trying to make him stay at other school which I won’t be agreeing to as that’s not allowed unless I the parent agree

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BooksAndHooks · 05/03/2025 10:45

Have you had regular reviews? What has been said at those?

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 12:34

He’s been doing well had a bad moment but turned things around he is doing ok but wants to back to his school I had a phone call and the staff member said it would be ok for him to stay there I said no be it’s costing mr £59 a week in taxi and I can’t really afford it it’s making things difficult financially as well

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YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 12:36

I know they don’t have a right to make that decision unless I agree and I’m not handing in the admission form as he doesn’t not want to go there I was also told he’s on they roll I believe I should of had a meeting with his own school

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TeenToTwenties · 05/03/2025 12:40

The discussion I guess you will need is how to help your son not go back to his old ways when he returns to his school.

If he wants to return he will have to get his act together. Have there been discussions on why he has behaved poorly in the past and how that can be changed?

If he reverts he will end up having to move.

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 14:51

I’ve always help my kids from day one always have done it’s not that I’m I’m doing anything and it’s not always been his fault he reacts other stiffest have done worse stuff all he did was walk away as that’s a strategy that was set for him by a member of staff he was suspended for he followed instructions but then just walked away when was asked to go to the back I don’t think he did anything wrong he was suspended for just walking away and when I raised this with the head she decided on offsite direction I wasn’t told what it was no was a meeting organised to explain what was going to happen

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YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 14:56

You suggested that he will end up moving that’s not allowed as it need the parent /carer to agree and for the student to agree they don’t have a right to make a child move schools with a parents consent and also the school is a bit too far and I am paying a taxi fare of £50 a month which is difficult and he isn’t able to walk that far as you know it’s not safe now days for a child to walk that far I have written a letter to the head and the governor as I think the suspension and then offsite direction was a bit harsh

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StrivingForSleep · 05/03/2025 15:11

Have you asked about transport/transport costs?

Does DS have an EHCP?

Why haven’t there been any meetings?

Focus on DS rather than other pupils.

I think @TeenToTwenties means, DS is at risk of permanent exclusion.

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 15:22

I am focusing on my child he’s my only concern right now also when he was suspended last time he was made to sign a statement when he refused told him he would get into trouble he’s not in his own school but in his school charts of his own school have been putting good comments like rewarding him when he’s not even there

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StrivingForSleep · 05/03/2025 15:32

other stiffest have done worse stuff isn’t focusing in your DS.

TeenToTwenties · 05/03/2025 16:09

StrivingForSleep · 05/03/2025 15:11

Have you asked about transport/transport costs?

Does DS have an EHCP?

Why haven’t there been any meetings?

Focus on DS rather than other pupils.

I think @TeenToTwenties means, DS is at risk of permanent exclusion.

Yes, I meant if he reverts to poor behaviour when he returns to his main school he will be at risk of permanent exclusion.

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 18:33

His own school rang me up last week because I wanted to speak to someone I was updated that he had a good day and that if he settles he can settle they I disagreed then I was told I would be contacted again in a few days I also wrote a letter with my concerns and asked for a meeting

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/03/2025 19:18

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 15:22

I am focusing on my child he’s my only concern right now also when he was suspended last time he was made to sign a statement when he refused told him he would get into trouble he’s not in his own school but in his school charts of his own school have been putting good comments like rewarding him when he’s not even there

That's because the teacher is giving points to the whole class and he's still on the timetable (because it's a temporary move).

It sounds really positive that the new school are prepared to keep him, rather than the main school, who did this as an alternative to proceeding to exclusion. He's also improved his behaviour considerably since he's been with them - so they're clearly doing something that works for him.

I am paying a taxi fare of £50 a month
£50 a month is no more than £2.50 a day for travel, so not exactly expensive compared to the potential travel costs to get to a PRU after exclusion (or any school through Fair Access Panel protocol - when you do not have any say, so it could be much further away and a much worse school), especially when he's at secondary, so well able to use public transport.

Rather than refusing out of hand, give it some more thought - he's doing well, they want to keep him, he wasn't doing well at the previous school and is very likely to permanently exclude him at the first incident were you to enforce a return. Surely £2.50 a day is worth giving him that better chance?

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 19:43

No it’s cost £10 a day to get to him that school and yes it is expensive for me it’s easy for others to say that yes I know what you saying about school doing the right thing your not understanding and plus no one knows the full story they have gone about ur the wrong way they still haven’t managed to put a placement fir him like they were supposed to and no I will not give it another of him going to another school because he doesn’t want that

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YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 19:46

Also I was told that they will be some forms to fill in but there admission forms is that normal because he wants to go back to his own school for that reason I have not filled in and submitted them

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NeverDropYourMooncup · 05/03/2025 20:02

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 19:46

Also I was told that they will be some forms to fill in but there admission forms is that normal because he wants to go back to his own school for that reason I have not filled in and submitted them

He's likely to be excluded very, very quickly. And then he could be sent anywhere within your area, which could be much further - you don't have a choice about the school the Fair Access Panel directs to take him - or he could end up at a PRU, which could be great or it could be terrible for him.

The new school is offering him (and you) a chance to turn things around.

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 20:49

I’m just going to pull him out of school because that school has gone about things the wrong way thank you for your advice but you don’t know the full story that school is trauma informed school they don’t communicate with each they say one thing I have raised my concerns in a letter which I received reply that they will reply to all the points I’ve made thank you for your advice I will make the appropriate decision for my child

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all5ofyou · 05/03/2025 21:13

YourPearlQuoter · 05/03/2025 10:08

Thank you everyone for your replies I was told my son will be at another school for his behaviour for 13 weeks then go back if his he behaves which he has been doing but I was given an admission form I get a feeling there trying to make him stay at other school which I won’t be agreeing to as that’s not allowed unless I the parent agree

It is probably a admissions registration form, not an admissions application form. They need to know things like his address, next of kin, gp's contact details etc, to help keep him safe.

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