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UK/US family: schooling for my 15 year old

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nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:21

Hello all,
I am new here and was hoping to gather some info on schooling options for my daughter. Brief background: we are a dual US/UK family (hubby and kids UK/US, I’m US-will have a spouse visa) looking to move back to the UK next year. Our DD is currently in 8th grade (I believe that is Year 9 in the UK), she will go into 9th grade next year (Year 10) and then we will be moving at the end of next school year (June 2026). I understand the unique challenges to moving her from the American system into the UK system because of the GCSE years. Private school might be an option but it’s so expensive.
We would be relocating to either Lancashire or West Yorkshire.
Does anyone have any general information on who I can speak to about transitioning her into a British school if we need to? Would that be the local council or are there educational consultants I could speak to?
Has anyone been through this or know of anyone who has experience with this type of move?
Thank you in advance

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clary · 07/02/2025 18:27

So you are planning to move when she is 15 in the June? So I assume she turns 16 after September 1 2026 (but before Aug 31 2027)?

That would mean she would be going into year 11 in Sept 2026. Even moving within the UK at that time would be a challenge bc of the GCSE curriculum being covered in a different order in different schools.

But moving from a totally different system would be a nightmare. I would think ir would be very challenging indeed for her to get up to speed in very much at all in time to sit GCSEs in May 2027. Maths I guess and Eng lang?

What does she hope to do later? Is there any way you can delay till she has done the US equivalent of GCSEs? Or yes a private school may accept her to start year 10 which would be better.

StormingNorman · 07/02/2025 18:28

If I’ve understood, you want to move her at the end of Year 10 (UK years)?

That is right in the middle of the two year GCSE course. I think you would need to start her in school before she starts Year 10, or she’d need to see out schooling in the US system.

StormingNorman · 07/02/2025 18:32

Also worth mentioning that even changing schools within the England would be very disruptive during GCSEs as different schools follow the curriculum slightly differently and sign up to different exam boards, which means moving midway could mean gaps in her knowledge or even preparing for a different exam paper to the one she’d be sitting.

Gardendiary · 07/02/2025 18:35

Don’t move her at the end of year 10 start of year 11, thats madness. Any way you can do it earlier?

thehorsesareallidiots · 07/02/2025 18:38

That is about the worst possible time to move her. She'll have missed half the GCSE course and be hopelessly behind with very little chance of ever catching up. She will lack basically all the groundwork for the exams, so she would essentially waste the year, and be unable to move onto A-levels.

The only way I could see it working is if you were able to enrol her in an American school, or you moved her at least a year earlier, but preferably more.

Octavia64 · 07/02/2025 18:40

Educational consultants do exist.

They tend to focus on private schools.

If you are looking at private she'd be better going back a year and starting year 10. GCSEs are two year courses and it is not really possible to go into year 11 and do well in them.

Some private schools that are internationally focused may run a single year course that gets her 5 or so GCSEs (norm is 8 plus). These courses are usually aimed at international students and gives them enough GCSEs to move onto a levels in the U.K. system.

If you put her into a state school for the start of year 11 I would expect serious problems.

Octavia64 · 07/02/2025 18:41

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Hoppinggreen · 07/02/2025 18:42

hello OP
I am a Relocation consultant who actually works in North and West Yorkshire.
I would be happy to offer some free advice (I don't take non corporate clients so not touting for Business). Many of my clients are American due to a large base in my area so I have some knowledge and I know quite a lot of schools in the area too
Feel free to PM me

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:45

thehorsesareallidiots · 07/02/2025 18:38

That is about the worst possible time to move her. She'll have missed half the GCSE course and be hopelessly behind with very little chance of ever catching up. She will lack basically all the groundwork for the exams, so she would essentially waste the year, and be unable to move onto A-levels.

The only way I could see it working is if you were able to enrol her in an American school, or you moved her at least a year earlier, but preferably more.

Unfortunately, we can’t move earlier, I’m thinking our only option is to find a school that offers an American curriculum or IB, thank you!

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TimeForSpring · 07/02/2025 18:45

You need to be here, and start school, in the September while she is 14.
Or wait until the start of the school year when she will start aged 16.
Moving between those points is hard. Add a totally different curriculum and you are setting your daughter up to fail.
So, speed up the relocation, delay the relocation, or split the family for the year.
You would need to investigate how she would access 16-18 education if she doesn't have any high school results at that point.

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:49

Yes, I really don’t want to have to drop her in the middle of GCSE’s, especially with the stress of moving on top. I have heard it is possible to move her back a year (to Year 10), but I’m concerned that will be holding her back? It’s a complicated situation. Thank you for your input

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maudelovesharold · 07/02/2025 18:51

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:45

Unfortunately, we can’t move earlier, I’m thinking our only option is to find a school that offers an American curriculum or IB, thank you!

Could she board for a year or two at a school in the right area before you move, then become a day pupil? There wouldn’t then be all the disruption in the middle of the GCSE years.

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:53

clary · 07/02/2025 18:27

So you are planning to move when she is 15 in the June? So I assume she turns 16 after September 1 2026 (but before Aug 31 2027)?

That would mean she would be going into year 11 in Sept 2026. Even moving within the UK at that time would be a challenge bc of the GCSE curriculum being covered in a different order in different schools.

But moving from a totally different system would be a nightmare. I would think ir would be very challenging indeed for her to get up to speed in very much at all in time to sit GCSEs in May 2027. Maths I guess and Eng lang?

What does she hope to do later? Is there any way you can delay till she has done the US equivalent of GCSEs? Or yes a private school may accept her to start year 10 which would be better.

Our plan is to move June 2026, she will have finished 9th grade here (Year 10 UK). She will be 15 years old. Her birthday is in April.
Yes, she would technically be Year 11. I don’t think we can do that though, from others responses, we’re going to have to find a private school that teaches an American curriculum. Our problem is that we are relocating to the North and there aren’t many options for International schools. London is out becuase it’s too far away from family and friends.

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nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:54

Hoppinggreen · 07/02/2025 18:42

hello OP
I am a Relocation consultant who actually works in North and West Yorkshire.
I would be happy to offer some free advice (I don't take non corporate clients so not touting for Business). Many of my clients are American due to a large base in my area so I have some knowledge and I know quite a lot of schools in the area too
Feel free to PM me

Thank you, I will PM you

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nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 18:57

TimeForSpring · 07/02/2025 18:45

You need to be here, and start school, in the September while she is 14.
Or wait until the start of the school year when she will start aged 16.
Moving between those points is hard. Add a totally different curriculum and you are setting your daughter up to fail.
So, speed up the relocation, delay the relocation, or split the family for the year.
You would need to investigate how she would access 16-18 education if she doesn't have any high school results at that point.

Good points, thank you.

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clary · 07/02/2025 19:02

Yeh we're all saying the same thing here @nikkir007 - this won't work. Options:
Private school that will put her in year 10
Stay in US another year (not sure how it would work tho as GCSEs are gateway to A levels)
Come to UK a year earlier (or she comes with just one parent?) and start year 10 as normal aged 14

SpringingInto · 07/02/2025 19:11

Is online learning an option as a homecEd student so you can do iGCSEs at a pace that suits but would need to book to take the exams as a private candidate. Costs less than private schooling but maybe hard going if on her own. Look up the HEFA group on face book as lots of information and some do actually do an American diploma

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 19:12

Hoppinggreen · 07/02/2025 18:42

hello OP
I am a Relocation consultant who actually works in North and West Yorkshire.
I would be happy to offer some free advice (I don't take non corporate clients so not touting for Business). Many of my clients are American due to a large base in my area so I have some knowledge and I know quite a lot of schools in the area too
Feel free to PM me

Hi there, I’m new to mumsnet, how do I send you a PM? Thank you!

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nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 19:17

SpringingInto · 07/02/2025 19:11

Is online learning an option as a homecEd student so you can do iGCSEs at a pace that suits but would need to book to take the exams as a private candidate. Costs less than private schooling but maybe hard going if on her own. Look up the HEFA group on face book as lots of information and some do actually do an American diploma

this could be an option, thank you!

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Hoppinggreen · 07/02/2025 19:20

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 19:12

Hi there, I’m new to mumsnet, how do I send you a PM? Thank you!

I see you worked it out 😁

theduchessofspork · 07/02/2025 19:22

I really wouldn’t do that, hang on for a year and move her at 16 when she can start A Levels.

nikkir007 · 07/02/2025 19:30

Hoppinggreen · 07/02/2025 19:20

I see you worked it out 😁

Haha! thanks 😂

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GravyBoatWars · 07/02/2025 20:21

[I’m going to use YX/GY here for English and US level equivalents. You’re right that year 10 in the UK is 9th grade or freshman year in the US. I’m also going to use University to refer to undergraduate edu and avoid the word college since it is used very differently in the two systems]

Oooooh that’s a tough situation. I agree with others that Y11/G10 is a really awful time to make that move under the UK structure but family life is more complicated and parents can’t always time these things around schooling. I’m going to do the depressing, here’s the problem post first.

I’m an American expat who moved here for University and naturalized, now married to a Scot, raising 7 DC in England. There are large parts of the English education system I like, but honestly have an intense dislike of the way it structures that stretch from Y9-11/G8-10, and one of the many reasons is that it makes moving schools during those years incredibly prohibitive - in the US it’s a social disruption, but in the UK it can truly be detrimental to a student’s long-term options - and that’s bad for families. As others have said, in the English system students sit their GCSE exams at the end of Y11 and Y10-Y11 are essentially entirely dedicated to preparing them for these exams (Y9 also tends to include GCSE content, but the G8 in the US is more in sync with it). To make this extra “fun” there are multiple exam boards that schools choose from and sometimes options for content areas within individual exam boards so even moving within a specific county in England at that time can be a serious issue.

But the biggest UK/US diversion at Y10/G9 is the way subjects are divided. in the US students continue a broader curriculum for much longer (it still boggles my mine that many UK students don’t study any history or fine art after age 13, or math or any sort of Engish or humanity after 16 for example) but we actually do it in narrower “packages.” So in the vast majority of the US a university-bound student will take a year of Algebra 1, then a year of geometry, then a year of algebra II! and so on. In the UK those three discreet courses are all blended into one maths course over the course of Y9-11, so a student who moves in that stretch may have massive content gaps. In science, US students take one-year courses in each of the three basic sciences, so G9 is often the entire basic biology course, G10 is often all chemistry, and G11 is often all physics. Under the UK system most students will study all three sciences Y9-11, so a student who moves from the US in 11th is likely to be ahead in one domain and very behind in the others. UK students usually get to choose 0-2 from history, geography and religious studies (the humanities - note people here don’t lump english or lit with humanities) and they’ll do a general “history” or “geography” course over Y10-11 (these are simultaneously general history courses but also extremely patchy because they’re taught to the contents of specific exam boards and schools choose specific topics from a set of options to cover and have students test on). US students will almost all take a year of geography, a year of world history, a year of US history, etc. US students usually have to take several semesters from a selection of fine arts and sport or PE options in G9-12 while UK students might choose one of those “practical subjects” to do at GCSE level in Y10-Y11 but it’s done in a way that would be extremely difficult to cram into one year. It’s all just extremely out of synch content-wise during that stretch and I think most Americans have a hard time really wrapping their minds around how thoroughly those years are constructed around preparing to sit the (very much content-based) GCSEs at the end of Y11. The way schoolwork is done and evaluated (the assignments given and how they’re supposed to be answered) is all aimed at prepping for sitting these exams. Americans lament about “teaching to the test” with standardized testing but this is at a whole different level.

The two 16+ years Y12-13/G11-12 are actually an easier crossover in general IMO because at that point students in the US have broadly covered most subjects to general GCSE standards and the UK system allows students to drop to only a few subjects and starts in on a whole new set of content-based exams. A student coming from the US system wanting to do certain subjects at that stage might have some specific catch-up areas but for the most part that’s manageable. One notable exception I can think of is either physics or whichever science your DD’s hs does junior year, which could frankly just end up off the table as an option at 16+ and limit some university options in the UK.

vinesslowlycreeping · 07/02/2025 21:19

Kingham School in Oxfordshire is a boarding school (fee paying) with American curriculum options. I'm sure there will be others too.

GravyBoatWars · 07/02/2025 21:28

Others have stressed either having her come earlier so she can do Y10 in the UK or stay in the US through the end of sophomore year (so she’d come for 16+ in the UK, Y12-13) and they’re right that either would be dramatically easier from an academic perspective. But families often don’t have the luxury to time moves in that way or send/leave a young teen on another continent for a year, so I don’t think saying that’s the only option is helpful.

I think having her finish G9 her in state school then start Y11 (GCSE year) in a state school and be expected to sit GCSEs with so little prep would be what I’d actively try to avoid. I would worry that having a set of poor GCSE scores will end up limiting post-GCSE options far more than than if she doesn’t have GCSE scores at all and schools have to look at other evidence of her readiness. If you need to move her at the end of G10 and are going to go into the state system then “repeating” a year and having her start Y10 may be your best option depending on her birthdate/maturity level/temperament. She’ll end up repeating some content but that may not be such a bad thing when she’s also got lots of non-academic changes to be navigating, and she’ll still have to learn to put that content she already knows into GCSE exam format. If she’s incredibly upset by this idea or already older for her grade then she might struggle to settle, though.

Another option I’d strongly consider if you need to move for Y11/G10 is having her do online schooling in an American program paired with local tutoring with the aim of starting in a UK school in Y12. Schools obviously have to take international students with non-UK records that have to be “translated”, and she can even find local places to sit an AP Exam or two to show her level if that’s academically appropriate for her. She can also sit the PSAT. If you/she figure out likely plans for Y12 in advance then local tutoring could help her identify and fill content gaps. The obvious downside that I wouldn’t dismiss is the social aspect of moving and then not joining an in-person school right away to help her build a new social life here.

At 16+ the IB program is set up in a way that works with both the UK GCSE system and the US system. Except for a few international/American schools (most of which are shockingly expensive) schools in the UK that offer IB usually have students sit GCSEs at the end of Y11 because that opens so many more options in the UK, but (unlike A-levels) the IB curriculum isn’t written with the assumption that students studied GCSE courses. So looking for schools that offer IB in 6th form (Y12-13) would be a good start. IB also has some benefits if you think she might return to the US for university. There are state schools that offer IB but their default policies on who can take what subjects will be written around GCSE scores so be prepared for some advocating and hoop jumping, and there may be none of these in the area you’re moving to.

If you can swing private there are some schools that offer year-long programs specifically for international students to come prep for a 16+ course in the UK, and some that don’t have a formal program but would adapt something. I know Stonyhurst (Jesuit day and boarding in Lancashire) has a Y11 program for new international students that preps for IB without having them take GCSEs. Whether they offer IB or not, private schools with significant international intakes will have multiple ways to establish where a student is at in each subject instead of just asking for projected GCSE scores.