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Moving from US to London - In Year Secondary School - Which Areas to pick?

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MovingLady · 01/01/2025 23:18

First time poster and appreciate your inputs.

Moving with 4 kids from the US to London for SO's job in June 2025. My partner will be moving in April 2025 to rent a place so we can start applying for oldest son's (Turns 12 in Feb 2025) secondary school (year 6).

Could you please advice on which areas to stay based on following criteria:

  1. Rent range - £4000-£5000 for 3/4 bedroom.
  2. State secondary school that would be easiest for placement after admission process has closed.
  3. 45mins to Farringdon for SO's work commute
  4. Younger kids are 9,9,4 and hoping to get into a state primary school.

We have it narrowed down to the following areas: (1) Ealing/Acton, (2) North Dulwich Triangle, (3) Islington/Angel (4) Notting Hill/Maida Vale.

Should we consider other areas or are these good enough to start getting in touch with rental agents?

Also, how do state schools view someone that is moving from overseas in making exceptions?

Thanks!

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SneakyScarves · 01/01/2025 23:46

Just FYI if your older son turns 12 in February he would be in Year 7, not Year 6, right now. So you’d be applying for a Year 8 place for September 2025, which is a bit harder unfortunately. Also I think technically you can’t apply for a school place until the child lives at the address, not just the parent.

VanCleefArpels · 01/01/2025 23:57

Your budget is very low for those areas for 3/4 bed. You are more likely to get a 2 bed flat in the areas you mention for a £5k budget. Look at Rightmove.com for what is available in those areas. Have you considered living outside of London and commuting? Your eldest is already secondary age (year 6 is last year of primary school). In year admissions usually mean you get offered anywhere there’s a space which may mean little choice and long journey to school which in central London can be a pain and might rely on buses/tubes.

SneakyScarves · 02/01/2025 00:02

Also there won’t be any exceptions for overseas moves. It’s a very different system from the US, with a set number of pupils per year, so to get an in-year place at secondary or primary school, either the school needs to be undersubscribed (there are places still available in the years you need) or a child leaves the school and you receive a place from the waiting list. Your position on a waiting list is usually dependent on how close you live to the school.

To be honest, I’d probably start with researching a primary school for your younger children, as you want that to be close to where you live and finding one with places in those years might be tricky (though not impossible). Your son can travel on public transport to school, so you may have more flexibility in finding a school for him.

Longhotsummers · 02/01/2025 04:26

I think your budget is more suited to somewhere like Southfields/Earlsfield/Wimbledon in SW London - all lovely areas.

You will get a place for all your children - rolls are falling and some primary schools, in particular, are struggling because of this.
There are no exceptions for overseas applicants - I work in a school where we receive many initial enquiries from overseas families, a good proportion of which come to nothing as the move has fallen through/circumstances have changed etc. Schools won’t entertain an application until you have an address and the child is in the UK.

Have you thought of using a relocation agent - is this part of the move package? They can be helpful but if you can do the research yourself, then that’s good too.

Once you’ve identified an area, give schools a call and then set up a tour once you have an address.

Our local authority (Wandsworth) publishes an online guide to applying for primary and secondary school which has information about all schools in the area in it. Other authorities will probably do the same, which will give you useful information. Good luck!

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:33

SneakyScarves · 01/01/2025 23:46

Just FYI if your older son turns 12 in February he would be in Year 7, not Year 6, right now. So you’d be applying for a Year 8 place for September 2025, which is a bit harder unfortunately. Also I think technically you can’t apply for a school place until the child lives at the address, not just the parent.

Ohh Thanks for the clarification! The Years are confusing. I guess it'll be Year 8.

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MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:36

Longhotsummers · 02/01/2025 04:26

I think your budget is more suited to somewhere like Southfields/Earlsfield/Wimbledon in SW London - all lovely areas.

You will get a place for all your children - rolls are falling and some primary schools, in particular, are struggling because of this.
There are no exceptions for overseas applicants - I work in a school where we receive many initial enquiries from overseas families, a good proportion of which come to nothing as the move has fallen through/circumstances have changed etc. Schools won’t entertain an application until you have an address and the child is in the UK.

Have you thought of using a relocation agent - is this part of the move package? They can be helpful but if you can do the research yourself, then that’s good too.

Once you’ve identified an area, give schools a call and then set up a tour once you have an address.

Our local authority (Wandsworth) publishes an online guide to applying for primary and secondary school which has information about all schools in the area in it. Other authorities will probably do the same, which will give you useful information. Good luck!

Wilmbledon is definitely under consideration. Just seems farther away for my SO's commute.

We will most likely get a relocation agent but wanted to get started on the plans and get some ideas prior to getting them engaged.

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MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:40

SneakyScarves · 02/01/2025 00:02

Also there won’t be any exceptions for overseas moves. It’s a very different system from the US, with a set number of pupils per year, so to get an in-year place at secondary or primary school, either the school needs to be undersubscribed (there are places still available in the years you need) or a child leaves the school and you receive a place from the waiting list. Your position on a waiting list is usually dependent on how close you live to the school.

To be honest, I’d probably start with researching a primary school for your younger children, as you want that to be close to where you live and finding one with places in those years might be tricky (though not impossible). Your son can travel on public transport to school, so you may have more flexibility in finding a school for him.

Will the admission be within some secondary school in the particular borough or will he be asked to travel somewhere outside of borough if they are all full?

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FancyNewt · 02/01/2025 05:42

Wimbledon/Raynes Park will be worth a look.

Readyforseptember · 02/01/2025 05:46

Wimbledon is great for transport. Tube plus train means you can pretty much always get to work one way or another, and it is very frequent.

HawaiiWake · 02/01/2025 05:54

Commuting to work in London is not distance but transport system options. Living further away with great transport can cut time. Check TFL website and see the travel time. Check daily to see which lines are always delay. Something that looks quick on Northern line can be headache in reality. Use relocation agent.

Primary school 4 years old to 11 Years.
Secondary school 11 years to 18 years. Kids tend to travel for these.

Check out goodschoolsguide.co.uk and Londonpreprep.com

Worth checking UK curriculum and see what is being taught. Or check examninja.co.uk. They have books for the year group, different year group to US school version. Secondary schools tend to set in Maths worth checking level.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/01/2025 06:54

I've got nothing to contribute about schools but Farringdon is on the Elizabeth Line, which is wonderful, providing a fast way into Central London from a long way out. That might help if your budget doesn't stretch to a more central area.

sashh · 02/01/2025 07:02

Your eldest needs to learn how to tie a tie.

Virtually every school in the UK has a uniform. For secondary it is typically trousers, shirt and tie, maybe a jumper and a blazer. Usually there is also a PE kit

Primary is a bit more relaxed, often polo shirts with trousers / shorts / skirt.

Also be aware your child(ren) may be allocated a Catholic or other faith school.

CheeseTime · 02/01/2025 07:09

Where is your partner working? As PP said that will help with determining the best areas for your budget.
I would prioritise the 5 people who will be travelling to school and back over the single adult commuter tbh.
The school years are determined by age at the start of September. If you’re arriving in June you only have a month before schools break up (6 weeks in UK from around last week in July).
Best of luck on your adventure.

CheeseTime · 02/01/2025 07:11

Ps the UK Rightmove site is probably the biggest for seeing what you can get for your budget in different areas. It’s a great budget but London is crazy prices!

Copperas · 02/01/2025 07:11

The Elizabeth line is really important here so it would be worth checking west and east suburbs on this route

eurochick · 02/01/2025 07:16

Farringdon is also on the north-south Thameslink line, so it could be worth looking at stations there. You generally get more for your money further out.

RedR1ghtHand · 02/01/2025 07:21

I'd second looking along the Elizabeth Line. Although it's further out than your shortlist, Gidea Park is lovely, you'd get an amazing house under budget and Royal Liberty is an exceptionally good school.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150504938#/?channel=RES_LET

www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24219386.royal-liberty-school-gidea-park-praised-ofsted/

TooMuchRedMaybe · 02/01/2025 07:28

RedR1ghtHand · 02/01/2025 07:21

I'd second looking along the Elizabeth Line. Although it's further out than your shortlist, Gidea Park is lovely, you'd get an amazing house under budget and Royal Liberty is an exceptionally good school.

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/150504938#/?channel=RES_LET

www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/24219386.royal-liberty-school-gidea-park-praised-ofsted/

Is that house really 564 square feet? No way can you get 6 people in a house that size.

SnowyIcySnow · 02/01/2025 07:31

Also be aware the 3 youngest could potentially be offered different schools to each other.

The school offered will be the nearest one with spaces. This could be a distance away from your house.

We had to prove the child was in the uk with plane boarding cards and passports (or visas in your case, I guess?) before we could register with the school. Although we were very lucky, and I contacted our LEA about possible places a few days before we came back to the UK, and were offered places - subject to being in school within 2 weeks - almost immediately.

We also finished the school year abroad, and moved in June. The kids went into school for the last month of term. They made friends, we got an idea of where their knowledge was lacking, and basically then started the new school years ready to go.
Be very careful with school years. The English years and us grades don't transfer directly.

If you might return to the US, consider the (not free) American school in London.

northlondon19 · 02/01/2025 07:35

www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/155695628

Would definitely suggest you consider further out - this is centrally located in Harpenden which has excellent state schools, it has 5 bedrooms and is close to the centre of town and the station which has fast train line to Farringdon

HawaiiWake · 02/01/2025 07:52

Do you have friends for US already in London? I agree you get more space further out but if you want London and your family have friendship group support in London maybe near them? You don’t want to be isolated with 4 kids if your family and friends are in London? The ease of calling someone for 24 hours pharmacy etc, travel in UK is expensive so check the cost.

Start a check list, lots of things to do like sign up for NHS when you get address, sign up for school, get school uniforms, Travel cards for kids so they travel for free on bus and reduced on Tube. Would your kids share rooms? London has lots to offer, free museums and great parks.

UK state schools are usually on catchment areas, very competitive for some schools. So check the schools you like and rent nearby for primary and check for secondary and those with exams or selective entry or siblings policy.

One suggestion, is your husband’s firm have a lot of US personnel? Could he reach out to ask where they located to? It may give an idea of places to choose.
Also, you can google about potential rental area and local amenities. London is very diverse and there are no gated communities vibes so different areas have different feel and local shops. The areas you selected are so diverse and vast, so do narrow it down. Eg. Notting Hill/ Maida Vale should be considered separate areas.

widgetz · 02/01/2025 08:22

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:33

Ohh Thanks for the clarification! The Years are confusing. I guess it'll be Year 8.

When you move in June he will be in Year 7. He will join Year 8 in September 2025 after the 6-7 weeks summer holiday.

You need to decide whether you want him to start in June or in September, and apply for the appropriate year group.

You will have an address from April. If you want a June place then apply about 2-3 weeks before the move because you will be expected to take up the place as soon as it is offered. If you turn it down, they are not obliged to offer you another. If you are offered a school you don't like, accept it, but stay on the waiting list for your higher preferences.

Places are not allocated on a first come, first served basis. Look at school admission policies on their websites and read them carefully because they all have different ways of prioritising applicants from waiting lists. Usually it is by distance to the school (sometimes walking distance, sometimes crow-flies distance), but there are a lot of schools with alternative policies, (e.g. faith schools often prioritise families who can prove they attend church regularly). Some schools are academically selective but they are usually very oversubscribed and in-year places are rare.

One thing worth mentioning to help you understand the pattern of vacancies - when families tell their schools they will be leaving at the end of July, their vacated places may not re-allocated until shortly after the start of term in September. It's because admissions authorities can't be 100% certain of vacancies until they receive confirmation that the child has either registered at another school or left the area (sometimes families change their mind or their move falls through).

BlackberrySky · 02/01/2025 08:27

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:36

Wilmbledon is definitely under consideration. Just seems farther away for my SO's commute.

We will most likely get a relocation agent but wanted to get started on the plans and get some ideas prior to getting them engaged.

There is a direct train from Wimbledon to Farringdon. Takes about 35 mins. Thameslink.

SneakyScarves · 02/01/2025 09:05

MovingLady · 02/01/2025 05:40

Will the admission be within some secondary school in the particular borough or will he be asked to travel somewhere outside of borough if they are all full?

He will be allocated a place at the closest secondary school with a place (which may or may not be in the same borough), but it might not be one that you want as the better schools tend to be oversubscribed with waiting lists. Has your partner’s company indicated they might be willing to pay for private school? If so, that would be a much easier process for you as you can apply from overseas and have a bit more certainty.

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