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Stbxh, mediation and secondary schools

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Feelinglostinmediation · 02/10/2024 21:15

Hi everyone,

I just wondered did anyone have any advice, support or has been through a similar situation.

My stbxh and I have come to the point where we have our first mediation session next week to discuss our dd’s secondary school choices and I don’t really know what to expect or how an outcome can be reached.

background: we split in March 2021 and we have 50/50 custody each. We have had a very amicable split up until last Christmas when he became very difficult to deal with. Dd is an only child.

we sold our family home and I bought a cottage in the village dd goes to school and has done since reception.

her primary address for child benefit, doctors and school is my address.

stbxh is in the process of buying a house 10 miles away (about a 30 min drive outside of rush hour traffic). He hasn’t signed contracts yet.

secondary school deadline is 31/10/24.

2 options for secondary school as follows:
my choice - local catchment school, rated good by ofstead. Impressed by the school when we’ve visited, think it will suit my daughter as it’s a smaller school, all on one level, some friends will go there from primary. Daughter will get the bus with other children/friends in the village, it’s about 7 minutes on the bus.

stbxh choice:
school in the village he is moving too. Rated good by ofstead. Larger school. Will walk to school about 15 minute walk.

both schools are under the same trust, and offer the same extra curricular activities, trips etc.

the deciding factors for my choice are as follows:

  1. daughter has categorically stated she didn’t like stbxh school. She said it was too big, too loud and she doesn’t know anybody there and no one in the village.
  2. currently as he doesn’t live there she is 10 on the criteria for entry list. If he gets the keys in the next few weeks she will be 5th. It’s a highly oversubscribed school and she is not in a feeder primary school. (She’s 3rd on the criteria for my choice as she attends the feeder and it’s the only school in catchment).
  3. I will not be able to collect her midweek at 3pm as will need to work. There is no bus service available. if she went to my choice there will always be someone at home when she gets of the bus (either me or my partner who wfh). The bus stop is less than 30 seconds from the house.
  4. ex thinks she can just go to his dads who lives 15 mins away every day after school. He is 79 and not in the best health and doesn’t drive. Dd is very against this idea. She doesn’t want to go there.

stbxh is adamant she should go to his choice and will not take dds wishes into account. He upset her hugely last week as she was trying to express her opinion and he accused her of being negative for the sake of it.

we have now gone to mediation as I will not send her to a school she hates with no support network in Place. So we are at an impasse.

any ideas on how to try and work through it as there is only a few weeks until the closing date.

he has told me that his parents and him can manage pick ups but last week when she was ill and under his care (I was stranded abroad) he palmed her off to my mum instead of taking time of work or asking his parents. They are not reliable and she doesn’t like spending time with them.

I think that’s the vast majority of info, any help appreciated! I just want her to be happy and I’m so angry he won’t listen to her opinions and has forced us to go down this route.

(apologies for punctuation or spelling mistakes, my head is all over the place!)

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TizerorFizz · 02/10/2024 21:48

You are the resident parent as you get the benefits and have organised GP etc. He won’t be resident parent. So will he get his school choice? Have you checked with the local authorities what their admission requirements are for separated parents? As resident parent, and your choice suits your DD better, so it’s reasonable to make this point. DD is in this equation. Her needs come first, not his.

Plus I’d try and move away from 50/50. With school buses this ends up being very difficult. DD needs to think about this too. It’s not rejecting dad. It’s being practical. So be very prepared to state what DD wants and why. You have to put her first and so should he.

TizerorFizz · 02/10/2024 22:01

@Feelinglostinmediation There might be better answers if this was on the Legal board. Some posters might have professional knowledge of this type of situation.

titchy · 02/10/2024 22:06

You are the resident parent as you get the benefits and have organised GP etc. He won’t be resident parent

I was going to say this. Have you asked the local authority/ies what they would treat as the child's home address? It would be very rare for you to be able to choose the address.

Feelinglostinmediation · 02/10/2024 22:23

TizerorFizz · 02/10/2024 21:48

You are the resident parent as you get the benefits and have organised GP etc. He won’t be resident parent. So will he get his school choice? Have you checked with the local authorities what their admission requirements are for separated parents? As resident parent, and your choice suits your DD better, so it’s reasonable to make this point. DD is in this equation. Her needs come first, not his.

Plus I’d try and move away from 50/50. With school buses this ends up being very difficult. DD needs to think about this too. It’s not rejecting dad. It’s being practical. So be very prepared to state what DD wants and why. You have to put her first and so should he.

The guidance from the council is vague. I’ll call them tomorrow to find out what they class as the resident parent in our situation as the only mention of the resident parent, is who she spends most school nights with but it’s 50/50. Him every mon and Tuesday. Me every Wednesday and Thursday and we alternate Sundays. So there is no help there. Is says the parents have to agree and if not the address of the current provision will be used. So I guess that’s mine.

I absolutely agree her needs and wants come first. I cannot believe he is so dismissive of her opinion.

I also broached the subject of moving away from 50/50 when she starts secondary because she will want to be at home and not travelling for half a week away from her friends. It didn’t go down well and she has stated to me she doesn’t want to go to daddy for the week but would be fine staying at mine. I’m not naive in thinking she could be saying something different to him but I’m doubtful she is.

he won’t get his school choice currently as he doesn’t live in catchment but is moving there shortly. Even then on the list she’s 5 out of 10 so doubtful she would get in anyway.

thank you, I’ll also post on the legal board as I’m trying to be as prepared as I can be before the 1st mediation session.

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TizerorFizz · 02/10/2024 22:36

@Feelinglostinmediation This is what Bucks says in your situation. I don’t think this is vague. It might be useful at your meeting. It largely point to you. Many parents don’t find 50/50 works when they live in different areas and DC need greater stability in terms of getting to and from school.

Stbxh, mediation and secondary schools
Feelinglostinmediation · 02/10/2024 23:35

TizerorFizz · 02/10/2024 22:36

@Feelinglostinmediation This is what Bucks says in your situation. I don’t think this is vague. It might be useful at your meeting. It largely point to you. Many parents don’t find 50/50 works when they live in different areas and DC need greater stability in terms of getting to and from school.

Your guidance is definitely more comprehensive, this is all we get!

I agree completely and all I want is for her to be happy, thriving and in a stable environment. Even if that wasn’t with me. If she loved the other school I would make it work but she really doesn’t and they’re valid reasons. I can’t believe he’s making us go through this.

thank you for your help, I’ve posted on legal and will call the council tomorrow to see if there is any further guidance.

Stbxh, mediation and secondary schools
Stbxh, mediation and secondary schools
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Honeysuckle16 · 03/10/2024 00:20

You’re faced with a very difficult situation which must be upsetting and tough for you. No compromise is possible- it’s one option or the other.

You could start by stating your ex’s option is hypothetical until he has moved house, therefore fails immediately.

Should you need to discuss his option you have a significant advantage which your ex’s choice is lacking. You’ve put the welfare of your DC first and foremost and this is what is required by family law.

So in mediation all you need to do is quote the law that “the needs of the child shall be paramount”, go on to expand on what that means including taking into account a child’s wishes, and back it up with all the excellent points you’ve made. When your ex states an opposite choice, you can challenge him to say how his option meets your child’s needs.

You have a strong case with good evidence. Best wishes.

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