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Nottingham High School or Manchester Grammar School or Royal Grammar School Newcastle or King Edward's School Birmingham

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Lalagu · 05/02/2024 09:03

My kid has received offers from these four schools for Year 7 in the upcoming year. I am wondering which school he should choose. Do you have any insightful ideas? Thanks!

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whiteroseredrose · 05/02/2024 17:02

I can't comment on which school is 'best' because it often depends on the pupil, but Manchester Grammar School is definitely prestigious.

I live in Altrincham at the end of the tram and we have a decent sized HK population now. You would possibly know better than me. I'm pretty sure that there are buses to MGS because quite a lot of boys locally go there. Plus it is a nice place to live.

Bs0u416d · 05/02/2024 20:27

As other posters have said, this should be about where you can build the best life for yourself and your son. All the schools you have mentioned will give him and excellent start in life.

Coming from HK, perhaps you would be happier in a bigger city such as Manchester or Birmingham and by virtue of their size, they're more likely to have an expat community, if that's what is important to you.

Do you have any friend or family links or any of the cities that you have mentioned?

Regarding Nottingham, were quite happy here. We chose it 7 years ago because it's very central. It's pretty equidistant to ours friends and family, has excellent transport links so you easily get to London for example and is within short reach or several major airports.

The city itself is fairly small and experiences the same high street challenges affecting much of the UK. But it does have decent shopping and a good and improving restaurant scene.

Mapperley Park (where I live) and The Park are two nice neighbourhood in or just outside the city centre, where you will find large period houses on tree lined roads. Mapperley Park in particular is walkable to city centre and also the high school. Whilst both neighbourhoods are expensive for Nottingham, you will find them very good value compared to many other cities.

There is also West Bridgeford, south of the city which is a wonderful place it live, again, lovely homes, tree lined streets and a great small town feel just a stones throw from the city. Though it is more expensive to buy into and much less convenient for the the High School.

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 07:13

Bs0u416d · 05/02/2024 20:27

As other posters have said, this should be about where you can build the best life for yourself and your son. All the schools you have mentioned will give him and excellent start in life.

Coming from HK, perhaps you would be happier in a bigger city such as Manchester or Birmingham and by virtue of their size, they're more likely to have an expat community, if that's what is important to you.

Do you have any friend or family links or any of the cities that you have mentioned?

Regarding Nottingham, were quite happy here. We chose it 7 years ago because it's very central. It's pretty equidistant to ours friends and family, has excellent transport links so you easily get to London for example and is within short reach or several major airports.

The city itself is fairly small and experiences the same high street challenges affecting much of the UK. But it does have decent shopping and a good and improving restaurant scene.

Mapperley Park (where I live) and The Park are two nice neighbourhood in or just outside the city centre, where you will find large period houses on tree lined roads. Mapperley Park in particular is walkable to city centre and also the high school. Whilst both neighbourhoods are expensive for Nottingham, you will find them very good value compared to many other cities.

There is also West Bridgeford, south of the city which is a wonderful place it live, again, lovely homes, tree lined streets and a great small town feel just a stones throw from the city. Though it is more expensive to buy into and much less convenient for the the High School.

for Nottingham, we like the school well cos the school invited us for cam interview and surprised us that my kid is the top 1% in its entrance exam and the teachers are very nice.....

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LIZS · 06/02/2024 08:20

Being in top 1% is all very well but may suggest the school is not as academically selective across the year and your child would potentially not be amongst a cohort who might challenge him. Not if sure your budget reaches the nicer parts of Nottingham. www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/86343057#/?channel=RES_BUY Again would suggest you rent initially to determine best area for your family, access to public transport etc

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 08:24

LIZS · 06/02/2024 08:20

Being in top 1% is all very well but may suggest the school is not as academically selective across the year and your child would potentially not be amongst a cohort who might challenge him. Not if sure your budget reaches the nicer parts of Nottingham. www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/86343057#/?channel=RES_BUY Again would suggest you rent initially to determine best area for your family, access to public transport etc

thanks for your search
this property looks decent and within our budget

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2in13 · 06/02/2024 08:26

Not sure if I missed this, which specific KE school in Birmingham? Some rank higher than others

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 08:28

2in13 · 06/02/2024 08:26

Not sure if I missed this, which specific KE school in Birmingham? Some rank higher than others

King Edward's School located in Edgbaston and ranked within top 50 independent schools, opposite to King Edward VI High School for Girls

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Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:35

I live in Nottingham, it's ok but the city centre has got quite run down over the last few years. The council has also gone bankrupt so services are being cut to the bone.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:37

I believe Liverpool has a thriving Chinese community. And it's a fabulous city. Maybe look at that..

MarchingFrogs · 06/02/2024 08:47

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 08:37

I believe Liverpool has a thriving Chinese community. And it's a fabulous city. Maybe look at that..

But not great for getting to school in Birmingham, Nottingham, Newcastle or even Manchester every day.

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 09:02

@MarchingFrogs I'm sure there will be excellent schools in Liverpool!

MarchingFrogs · 06/02/2024 09:42

Toddlerteaplease · 06/02/2024 09:02

@MarchingFrogs I'm sure there will be excellent schools in Liverpool!

Absolutely- but the OP already has offers at 4 schools and at this stage would be a late applicant even for an independent school and presumably reliant on places being turned down. Definitely a late applicant for state schools.

Bird(s) in the hand and all thatWink.

2in13 · 06/02/2024 09:56

I can only speak of KE schools in Birmingham so the Edgbaston one has a very good reputation but also good transport links if you were hoping to live in the immediate area or further away.

I hope you're both happy with whichever choice you make.

SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 10:04

No one is going to have decent knowledge of all 4. You'd be better off looking at what life would be like for you all living close to each of them. I'm sure your dc will do well at any of the four. The rest of you still need to live in the area, so that's more important surely?

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 10:04

No one is going to have decent knowledge of all 4. You'd be better off looking at what life would be like for you all living close to each of them. I'm sure your dc will do well at any of the four. The rest of you still need to live in the area, so that's more important surely?

you are right as my kid did well in exam and let me know his academic ability and thus i am worried i choose a wrong school and devastate his study path since he aims to be doctor

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Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

2in13 · 06/02/2024 09:56

I can only speak of KE schools in Birmingham so the Edgbaston one has a very good reputation but also good transport links if you were hoping to live in the immediate area or further away.

I hope you're both happy with whichever choice you make.

Flowers
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LIZS · 06/02/2024 12:10

Perhaps you should look at uni destinations and any indication of specific activities for potential medics/vets in sixth form.

SecondUsername4me · 06/02/2024 13:33

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 11:37

you are right as my kid did well in exam and let me know his academic ability and thus i am worried i choose a wrong school and devastate his study path since he aims to be doctor

I can't imagine any of those schools would be "wrong" or devastating to his future plans. Doctors come from a broad range of schools - even crappy comps.

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 15:46

LIZS · 06/02/2024 12:10

Perhaps you should look at uni destinations and any indication of specific activities for potential medics/vets in sixth form.

AL is underway of reform and will be uncertain in coming 5-10 years, in contrast, IB sounds competitive and all rounded .......

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LIZS · 06/02/2024 15:59

Not sure your point. The majority of UK based uni candidates still take A levels. Any reform will be slow. Traditionally degrees like medicine demand high grades for sciences. What curriculum do these four follow?

Lifeinlists · 06/02/2024 16:46

KES IB results are outstanding by any comparison. This may be because of a combination of excellent teaching plus a highly selected cohort. Boys attend from all over the West Midlands so they can afford to be very academically selective as it's a very large pool, even though it's fee paying ( but with a generous bursary scheme too).
They hit the ground running from the start.

Lots of UK university students are international and have never done A Levels.

Btw OP your son may change his mind as he grows up and choose another career path. He's very young atm.

Lalagu · 06/02/2024 16:49

Lifeinlists · 06/02/2024 16:46

KES IB results are outstanding by any comparison. This may be because of a combination of excellent teaching plus a highly selected cohort. Boys attend from all over the West Midlands so they can afford to be very academically selective as it's a very large pool, even though it's fee paying ( but with a generous bursary scheme too).
They hit the ground running from the start.

Lots of UK university students are international and have never done A Levels.

Btw OP your son may change his mind as he grows up and choose another career path. He's very young atm.

yes he may change his mind and thus IB can give him a chance to explore non uk universities if he desires.....

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LIZS · 06/02/2024 16:57

International unis will also consider A levels for entry. Think you are getting a little ahead of yourselves. Presumably you need to make a decision soon.

mitogoshi · 06/02/2024 17:00

To a certain extent your budget may be a deciding factor, Nottingham and Newcastle are cheaper than Birmingham and Manchester to buy houses. Newcastle is close to the sea which you may have a preference for, whereas Manchester and Birmingham are bigger cities with bigger populations from HK, however even smaller towns have had HK communities move in recently (my tiny town has many including my neighbours!) I wouldn't worry about temperature, Britain is small, the difference isn't huge, the south is warmer but none of your options are in the south!

I think the best option is for you to find a community you want to live in

nixon1976 · 06/02/2024 17:21

I went to one of these schools and I actually do know them all well as I work in the industry. They are all excellent schools, along with many other independent and state schools in the country. Remember, while results are extremely impressive at these schools, they are only taking in the very highest achieving pupils at a certain point in time. Don't worry about A level vs IB. Both are rigorous programs and both can feed into overseas universities. A levels are not going anywhere anytime soon. As previous posters have said, choose where you want to live rather than the school